Comparison between gts450 and gts250?

Lasnap · October 1st, 2010, 06:22

Sence the gts450 is a new card i cant seem to find much in way of comparing it to the gts250 of which i have. i was wondering if they would perform similarly or what sence they are about the same price with the gts460 only being like $10 more and it has directx11 as well. and how would the gts 450 compare to the 460 as well sence the 460 is $100 more in some cases. im a little torn between the 450 and the 40 right now with trying to save as much as i can on my next pc purchase. and if i go the 450 route i will spend less then $1k on an intel i5 system compared to the $1200 i was looking at before.

Princess Garnet · October 1st, 2010, 13:48

The GTS250 is essentially a 9800GTX+ which is essentially an improved 9800GTX, which I believe is similar to the 8800GTS 512MB. Essentially, it's the evolved 8800GT though. The GT 240 (GDDR5 variants only, the GDDR3 were much weaker) is essentially a 9600GT (sometimes even performs worse), which itself sits below the 8800GT. Here's a rough draft.

9500GT > GT 220 > GT 240 GDDR5/9600GT > 8800GT/9800GT > 8800GTS 512MB/9800GTX > 9800GTX+/GTS 250 > GTX 260 (192) > GTX260 (216)

Now, with the GeForce 4 series coming into play, I don't know how much higher the GTS 450 is than these (I'd wager it's probably around a GTX 260 (216) performance-wise?), but the GTX 460 (don't know about the GTS 460) is a whole good longshot higher than any of them. I was considering upgrading to it from my current 8800GT.

That being said, the GTS 450 is probably not as big a jump, especially from a GTS 250. I'd check and see exactly how much higher it is, because in my opinion, it's not worth upgrading unless the jump is big enough, and it might not be.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 1st, 2010, 17:43

not enough of a jump indeed...then again my standards for a sufficient jump are pretty high...

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Lasnap · October 1st, 2010, 19:44

Guys dont forget this is for a new pc and the current gts 250 will be staying with this vista machine.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 1st, 2010, 21:37

I'd say the GTS450 is probably around HD5770 levels, sometimes higher, probably a little more frequently a little lower. It's a definitely a choice for the budget conscious builder, especially one that prefers nVidia to ATi.

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Lasnap · October 1st, 2010, 21:53

hmm sence ill be using F@H looks like ill be getting the gts450 over the 5770 then and ill be running both versions on the new pc when im not doing anything else.

ViperXtreme · October 2nd, 2010, 00:47

the GTS 450 is also my target card, comin from a 9600GT. Prolly my last upgrade on my current aging system before a complete overhaul.
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The GTS 450 is roughly similar or faster in some situations compared to the GTS 250/9800GTX+/HD 5750. The HD 5770 is mostly faster but there are times that it overtakes it as well.
Also, just like the GTX 460, the GTS 450 overclocks like a monster. Coming from the default 783/1566/3600 to a staggering 970+/2000+/4500+ on some cases. Most if not all GTS 450 cards are capable of this.

TDP on default clocks of the GTS 450 is similar to the 9600GT/9800GT/5770 (around 100W) wherein the GTS 250 has a TDP near 150W

Theres a rumor that it has a bigger brother on the same class named GTS 455 in which is listed on the recent drivers but no info on it yet...

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Lasnap · October 2nd, 2010, 01:13

hmm seems i wouyld get a very sliught increase in performance with the 450 over my gts250 which aint bad. so it looks like ill be grabbing the 450 for my next pc which im hoping to have by next year but at the rate that my life is going right now irl its going to be after the new year but im not sure by how much yet untill we get closer to that point. considering we are waiting till we move into the other place we are currently fixing up and mt entire check is going towards renting of this current place.

StriderVM · October 2nd, 2010, 01:15

OK let's try to tab things...

- On stock, the GT450 can easily match and beat the Radeon 5750.
- On rare occasions, it can match and beat the Radeon 5770.
- The Radeon 5770 can be a lot faster than the GTS450 because it's more overclockable.

So on direct comparisons....

9800GTX+ = GTS250
Radeon 4870 > GTS250
Radeon 4870 = Radeon 5770

I remember review sites usually comparing it to the Radeon 5750 and the 5770. Try using Google to search about it.

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**Yeloazndevil** · October 2nd, 2010, 02:15

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I'd say the GTS450 is probably around HD5770 levels, sometimes higher, probably a little more frequently a little lower. It's a definitely a choice for the budget conscious builder, especially one that prefers nVidia to ATi.

IMO the 450 can barely beat a 5750

I would rather buy a 460 for a bit more

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ViperXtreme · October 2nd, 2010, 02:33

in my case, id get the GTS 450 for my old system due to some reasons (PSU, LCD res, CPU etc.)

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Lasnap · October 2nd, 2010, 02:34

from what ive seen the prices at the site ill proably get my pc from are crazy. the 460 is around $200 while the 450 is around $140 so for me ill be grabbing the cheaper priced 450.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · October 2nd, 2010, 02:45

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Originally Posted by Yeloazndevil

IMO the 450 can barely beat a 5750

I would rather buy a 460 for a bit more

I'm totally with you that a 460 is a the better choice, but the premium over the 450 isn't as light everywhere.

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Kaizen · October 2nd, 2010, 03:15

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Originally Posted by Lasnap

Sence the gts450 is a new card i cant seem to find much in way of comparing it to the gts250 of which i have. i was wondering if they would perform similarly or what sence they are about the same price with the gts460 only being like $10 more and it has directx11 as well. and how would the gts 450 compare to the 460 as well sence the 460 is $100 more in some cases. im a little torn between the 450 and the 40 right now with trying to save as much as i can on my next pc purchase. and if i go the 450 route i will spend less then $1k on an intel i5 system compared to the $1200 i was looking at before.

Almost the same performance.
You will not be upgrading anything but compatibility, at most is perhaps a 6% increase between them.

Save up more and buy a midrange card. 460 minimum.

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rui-no-onna · October 2nd, 2010, 03:16

From the reviews I've seen, the GTS 450 seems to perform between HD 5750 and HD 5770. With the HD 5770 often going on sale for $130-ish, though, it's a bit hard to go for the GTS 450. There's also the GTX 460 768MB. While it's not quite as nice as the GTX 460 1GB, I've seen it go for as low as $150 after instant coupons.

nanaya · October 2nd, 2010, 03:43

Maybe wait till November when ~~ATi~~ AMD, supposedly, release the new 6K lineup, with the possibility of price reduction for 5K and Nvidia 4 series?

Kaizen · October 2nd, 2010, 04:10

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Originally Posted by nanaya

supposedly

They've confirmed the release now for the 18-21st.

I don't think there will be price cuts though. People still pay top price for ATi.

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rui-no-onna · October 2nd, 2010, 04:52

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Originally Posted by Kaizen

They've confirmed the release now for the 18-21st.

I don't think there will be price cuts though. People still pay top price for ATi.

Hmm, ~~ATI~~ AMD is supposed to be releasing the mid-range HD 67xx models first. Presumably, they'd be occupying the $120~180 bracket that the current cards occupy which probably explains why the price of HD 5770 frequently drops down to HD 5750 territory.

SAPPHIRE 100284L Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5, $130 ($115 after rebate) + $7 ship
SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5, $140 ($125 after rebate) + free ship

Also, people pay top price for NVIDIA (same way people pay top price for Intel). ~~ATI~~ AMD is usually the value or price/performance option.

Kaizen · October 2nd, 2010, 05:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by rui-no-onna

Hmm, ~~ATI~~ AMD is supposed to be releasing the mid-range HD 67xx models first. Presumably, they'd be occupying the $120~180 bracket that the current cards occupy which probably explains why the price of HD 5770 frequently drops down to HD 5750 territory.

SAPPHIRE 100284L Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5, $130 ($115 after rebate) + $7 ship
SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770 1GB 128-bit GDDR5, $140 ($125 after rebate) + free ship

Also, people pay top price for NVIDIA (same way people pay top price for Intel). ~~ATI~~ AMD is usually the value or price/performance option.

ATI prices have done nothing but go up, well above the release retail price and have stayed at that level.

The lower prices are inter-brand competition and not a reflection of anything internal from amdati. The barts parts will be first, cayman in November.

Prices will be lower than the current generation vs performance but not where you imagine. 5850 performance for the price of a 460 and 6870 performance for the price of a 5850. Whilst nvidia is spreading fud at every point of amd speculation to jilt sales to amd, the reality is that they are month behind of releasing a retaliation to the 6 series and this is all marketing air.

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ViperXtreme · October 2nd, 2010, 05:27

in our place despite the arrival of the GST 450, 5750 and 5770 prices are still pretty high, much higher than the GTS 450 (in our currency at least it amounts to 4 digits), the 450 though has dropped in price again recently here.

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October 1st, 2010, 06:22	#1
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,914	Comparison between gts450 and gts250? Sence the gts450 is a new card i cant seem to find much in way of comparing it to the gts250 of which i have. i was wondering if they would perform similarly or what sence they are about the same price with the gts460 only being like $10 more and it has directx11 as well. and how would the gts 450 compare to the 460 as well sence the 460 is $100 more in some cases. im a little torn between the 450 and the 40 right now with trying to save as much as i can on my next pc purchase. and if i go the 450 route i will spend less then $1k on an intel i5 system compared to the $1200 i was looking at before.

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October 1st, 2010, 13:48	#2
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,557	The GTS250 is essentially a 9800GTX+ which is essentially an improved 9800GTX, which I believe is similar to the 8800GTS 512MB. Essentially, it's the evolved 8800GT though. The GT 240 (GDDR5 variants only, the GDDR3 were much weaker) is essentially a 9600GT (sometimes even performs worse), which itself sits below the 8800GT. Here's a rough draft. 9500GT > GT 220 > GT 240 GDDR5/9600GT > 8800GT/9800GT > 8800GTS 512MB/9800GTX > 9800GTX+/GTS 250 > GTX 260 (192) > GTX260 (216) Now, with the GeForce 4 series coming into play, I don't know how much higher the GTS 450 is than these (I'd wager it's probably around a GTX 260 (216) performance-wise?), but the GTX 460 (don't know about the GTS 460) is a whole good longshot higher than any of them. I was considering upgrading to it from my current 8800GT. That being said, the GTS 450 is probably not as big a jump, especially from a GTS 250. I'd check and see exactly how much higher it is, because in my opinion, it's not worth upgrading unless the jump is big enough, and it might not be. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

October 1st, 2010, 17:43	#3
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,660	not enough of a jump indeed...then again my standards for a sufficient jump are pretty high... __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; October 1st, 2010 at 17:48..

October 1st, 2010, 19:44	#4
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,914	Guys dont forget this is for a new pc and the current gts 250 will be staying with this vista machine.

October 1st, 2010, 21:37	#5
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,660	I'd say the GTS450 is probably around HD5770 levels, sometimes higher, probably a little more frequently a little lower. It's a definitely a choice for the budget conscious builder, especially one that prefers nVidia to ATi. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

October 1st, 2010, 21:53	#6
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,914	hmm sence ill be using F@H looks like ill be getting the gts450 over the 5770 then and ill be running both versions on the new pc when im not doing anything else.

October 2nd, 2010, 00:47	#7
ViperXtreme Irregular User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,580	the GTS 450 is also my target card, comin from a 9600GT. Prolly my last upgrade on my current aging system before a complete overhaul. GeForce GTS 450 im Test - NVIDIA präsentiert den leisen "Sniper" - Crysis Warhead (Seite 27) - Tests bei HardTecs4U The GTS 450 is roughly similar or faster in some situations compared to the GTS 250/9800GTX+/HD 5750. The HD 5770 is mostly faster but there are times that it overtakes it as well. Also, just like the GTX 460, the GTS 450 overclocks like a monster. Coming from the default 783/1566/3600 to a staggering 970+/2000+/4500+ on some cases. Most if not all GTS 450 cards are capable of this. TDP on default clocks of the GTS 450 is similar to the 9600GT/9800GT/5770 (around 100W) wherein the GTS 250 has a TDP near 150W Theres a rumor that it has a bigger brother on the same class named GTS 455 in which is listed on the recent drivers but no info on it yet... __________________ System Specs? what "system specs?" are those edible? My Deviantart: http://viperxtreme.deviantart.com Webcomic Series: http://www.smackjeeves.com/profile.php?id=79364

October 2nd, 2010, 01:13	#8
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,914	hmm seems i wouyld get a very sliught increase in performance with the 450 over my gts250 which aint bad. so it looks like ill be grabbing the 450 for my next pc which im hoping to have by next year but at the rate that my life is going right now irl its going to be after the new year but im not sure by how much yet untill we get closer to that point. considering we are waiting till we move into the other place we are currently fixing up and mt entire check is going towards renting of this current place.

October 2nd, 2010, 01:15	#9
StriderVM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,852	OK let's try to tab things... - On stock, the GT450 can easily match and beat the Radeon 5750. - On rare occasions, it can match and beat the Radeon 5770. - The Radeon 5770 can be a lot faster than the GTS450 because it's more overclockable. So on direct comparisons.... 9800GTX+ = GTS250 Radeon 4870 > GTS250 Radeon 4870 = Radeon 5770 I remember review sites usually comparing it to the Radeon 5750 and the 5770. Try using Google to search about it. __________________

October 2nd, 2010, 02:33	#11
ViperXtreme Irregular User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,580	in my case, id get the GTS 450 for my old system due to some reasons (PSU, LCD res, CPU etc.) __________________ System Specs? what "system specs?" are those edible? My Deviantart: http://viperxtreme.deviantart.com Webcomic Series: http://www.smackjeeves.com/profile.php?id=79364

October 2nd, 2010, 02:34	#12
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,914	from what ive seen the prices at the site ill proably get my pc from are crazy. the 460 is around $200 while the 450 is around $140 so for me ill be grabbing the cheaper priced 450. Last edited by Lasnap; October 2nd, 2010 at 03:02..

October 2nd, 2010, 03:16	#15
rui-no-onna Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: US Posts: 680	From the reviews I've seen, the GTS 450 seems to perform between HD 5750 and HD 5770. With the HD 5770 often going on sale for $130-ish, though, it's a bit hard to go for the GTS 450. There's also the GTX 460 768MB. While it's not quite as nice as the GTX 460 1GB, I've seen it go for as low as $150 after instant coupons.

October 2nd, 2010, 03:43	#16
nanaya ┐(￣ー￣)┌ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dipokusumo Posts: 2,060	Maybe wait till November when ~~ATi~~ AMD, supposedly, release the new 6K lineup, with the possibility of price reduction for 5K and Nvidia 4 series?

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ViperXtreme Irregular User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,580	in our place despite the arrival of the GST 450, 5750 and 5770 prices are still pretty high, much higher than the GTS 450 (in our currency at least it amounts to 4 digits), the 450 though has dropped in price again recently here. __________________ System Specs? what "system specs?" are those edible? My Deviantart: http://viperxtreme.deviantart.com Webcomic Series: http://www.smackjeeves.com/profile.php?id=79364