Q8400 or E8400?

Mad · August 15th, 2010, 18:55

Well i currently have an Intel E5200, stock speed. Bought a bufallo cooler to OC a little, but never actually did it.

Now i'm wondering, if OC'ing would be enough, or if i should by a new CPU.
I wanna stick with 775, so i won't need to buy a new mobo + ram.
So those 2 processors are my options to buy. The price difference between the is R$25 reais only, around U$12.

But you may ask, what do you use your PC for?
I don't use any heavy thread program, only surf on the web, watch some movies.
Well i mostly play games from the Source engine, like cs:source, TF2 and L4D1/2. Sometimes i pick a different game like Batman or prototype, but after i finish them i go back to Source.

Emulation wise, i'm not much into it as i was before, i just wanna play a couple of PS2 games, and some from GC/Wii if possible, but not the main reason.

If you don't know already, i'm from Brazil, and the hot part of it, so OC isn't easy on Temps, that's why i was so reluctant to do it. I think maybe i could reach 3.2Ghz on my current CPU.

And please don't comparece prices in the USA, i know it's damn cheap there, but it's damn expensive here...

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**cooliscool** · August 15th, 2010, 19:26

I'd recommend an E8400 if you plan to stick to LGA775 but don't need the extra cores the Q series offer. Most E8400s hit 4GHz, but I've never seen one that didn't hit 3.8GHz (with an apt motherboard and RAM). At either speed you'd be able to run most things in Dolphin/PCSX2 well.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · August 15th, 2010, 19:53

How much is the Q9505 there?

Anyways out of those 2 the E8400 would definitely be the better choice considering your usage patterns. The Lower clocks of the Q8400 would hurt you (and the low Multiplier) and considering overclocking it would produce far more heat than overclocking the E8400 it's just really not an option.

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Mad · August 15th, 2010, 20:38

There's no Q9505 here, just the 9550, but it's the same price as i7, so no go.
Thanks will stick with the E8400 then.
Just need to find someone to buy my old processor.

On a note, i found someone selling an used Core 2 Quad 2.66ghz for half price of a new one. R$230 against R$415. It's probably the Q8400, or the Q6700. Waiting for his response.
I think it's a great deal, isn't?

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · August 15th, 2010, 20:43

Actually it's quite possibly an old Q9450 or a Q9400 which is definitely better than a Q8400 (since the Q8400 is essentially a butchered eco version of the Q9400 which is a butchered eco version of the Q9450..monstrous 12MB cache ftw)...but you don't know how ragged it's been run. And definitely don't go with an old Q6700, 65nm and hot brazilian temps are not the best of matches plus it will have seen plenty of use.

A new E8400 is still your best option.

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Mad · August 15th, 2010, 20:49

Well the guy is also selling 2x 2gb ddr2, and a simple onboard intel board. I don't think he ever OC'ed the cpu. And why the 9400 would be better than the Q8400?
EDIT: oh the extra 2mb cache. Well i'll have to wait for his answer on the model of CPU.
EDIT2: Ok then ran from Q6xxx series.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · August 15th, 2010, 20:55

They kept on cutting the Q9450's monstrous L2 12MB cache down. First to the Q9400 which has 6MB and then to the Q8400 which has just 4MB.

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runawayprisoner · August 15th, 2010, 20:56

I'd say E8400 as well. Overclocking or not, it'll still be a very decent CPU, and aside from helping with games, it'll also be a good match for PCSX2, at least better than the Q8400 in my opinions.

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · August 15th, 2010, 21:00

Hey RAP you had a Q9450 as far as I remember? would you say the old Q9450 would be a better choice over the new Q8400?

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runawayprisoner · August 15th, 2010, 21:02

Yeah, I had a Q9450.

I'd say the more cache you have the better... honestly. More cache means larger programs/applications will execute faster. And it seems to help with emulation as well.

**Cid Highwind** · August 15th, 2010, 21:52

In my humble opinion the only reason NOT to go for the Q8400 would be PCSX2. In all games two of those cores from the Q CPU will be more than enough, but in modern gaming there's been a transition from dual core towards quad for some time. Besides, the Q8000 series is so cool, OC'ing won't be a problem at all. I have my Q8200 undervolted while at 2.8GHz, while default is 2.33. So just setting the FSB at 400 will give you a 3.2 GHz Quad if I'm not mistaken. But well, for PCSX2 that might not cut it.

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Mad · August 16th, 2010, 03:28

Well as i stated before, emulation is not the main reason for the CPU upgrade.
Besides i can always borrow my bro PS2.

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Princess Garnet · August 16th, 2010, 06:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

In my humble opinion the only reason NOT to go for the Q8400 would be PCSX2. In all games two of those cores from the Q CPU will be more than enough, but in modern gaming there's been a transition from dual core towards quad for some time. Besides, the Q8000 series is so cool, OC'ing won't be a problem at all. I have my Q8200 undervolted while at 2.8GHz, while default is 2.33. So just setting the FSB at 400 will give you a 3.2 GHz Quad if I'm not mistaken. But well, for PCSX2 that might not cut it.

You can easily turn that around and say the opposite, to where unless you need something for heavy use, two faster cores is better. Sure, you get two more cores, but all else isn't equal. It'll have less cache (also remember, 6MB is 3MB per core, where as with a Q8400, 4MB is 1MB per core), be slower at stock, have a smaller multiplier, not overclock as high, run warmer, use more power, all things that matter in this case, and for a user that doesn't even need the two extra cores, so it's unneeded waste and lost gains. Less can sometimes still be more.

As for this games using more cores business, there are some noted games that like more cores (Battlefield bad Company 2 comes to mind), but I have had no problem playing games on my CPU, and the transition is far from global on the newest games, let alone the current gaming range of those released up to the last two or three years. A faster dual core will still do better over 90% of the time. My GPU is more a limiting factor, and with games, this is often the case. Looking at Mad's GPU, I'd say the GPU will be the weakest factor too.

In this case, the E8400 is a much smarter choice.

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**Cid Highwind** · August 16th, 2010, 08:22

Point taken, in the end it's his call. I was up for the same decision one and a half year ago and never really regretted it at all. Especially when seeing reports how some console ports really appreciated a Quad. I do wonder how much of a limiting factor his motherboard will be. Overclocking can put a lot of strain on the northbridge after all, and my P35 doesn't really like the Quad to go over 400FSB I think. With a G31 chipset, this is likely to be the case as well. A dual core is easier to overclock.

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Mad · August 16th, 2010, 13:26

Well thanks for the ideas. Food for thought.
I'll try to contact the guy selling the used Quad, since it's a lot cheaper.
If not, i'll go with the E8400.

And about my GPU, my monitor is a 19´, so i run games @ 1440x900, and i hardly turn on any filters like Aniso or AntiAliasing...

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Mad · August 16th, 2010, 15:00

Me again.
On the store, they're selling the E8400 for R$449, and the E7500 for R$315.
If i don't OC any of them, the E7500 is really much slower than E8400?

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · August 16th, 2010, 15:06

Considering the price difference I'd say the E7500 would be a great bang for buck choice.
The cache is gonna hurt you in gaming though.
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Mad · August 16th, 2010, 15:18

Reading some forums, i'm afraid the E8400 will be limited by my GPU.
And i don't plan on chaging the GPU soon, as i would have to get a new PSU also.

I'd rather get only a new CPU now, as next year i'll probably change my laptop.

EDIT: this is roughtly the upgrade will get: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/87?vs=98
In games seems good enough.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · August 16th, 2010, 16:54

I meant eventhough the E8400 and the E7500 have almost identical clocks the butchered cache on the E7500 shows itself in gaming VS the E8400.

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Princess Garnet · August 16th, 2010, 20:55

While the E7500 is great in bang for the buck, if you already have an E5x00, not so much worth it anymore. Either get the E8400 or save your money and stay with what you have. That's my take.

Edit: Ha, just noticed your motherboard. I have the same one in my secondary PC, also paired with an E8400. It had an E2160, which I took to 3.0GHz (didn't try higher, might have gone higher) easily, but the E8400 is stock in it. Haven't really "tried" to overclock it since it has a high FSB and the RAM ratio control is very limited, but perhaps I really should. With that board though, I wager either of the two CPUs will be at, or near, stock, since it seems to like 65nm and lower FSB CPUs more for overclocking farther.

As for the GPU, yes, but may hold you back most in games, but if that's a reason to intentionally get a CPU that be slower most of the time with your needs, so be it I guess.

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August 15th, 2010, 18:55	#1
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Q8400 or E8400? Well i currently have an Intel E5200, stock speed. Bought a bufallo cooler to OC a little, but never actually did it. Now i'm wondering, if OC'ing would be enough, or if i should by a new CPU. I wanna stick with 775, so i won't need to buy a new mobo + ram. So those 2 processors are my options to buy. The price difference between the is R$25 reais only, around U$12. But you may ask, what do you use your PC for? I don't use any heavy thread program, only surf on the web, watch some movies. Well i mostly play games from the Source engine, like cs:source, TF2 and L4D1/2. Sometimes i pick a different game like Batman or prototype, but after i finish them i go back to Source. Emulation wise, i'm not much into it as i was before, i just wanna play a couple of PS2 games, and some from GC/Wii if possible, but not the main reason. If you don't know already, i'm from Brazil, and the hot part of it, so OC isn't easy on Temps, that's why i was so reluctant to do it. I think maybe i could reach 3.2Ghz on my current CPU. And please don't comparece prices in the USA, i know it's damn cheap there, but it's damn expensive here... __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

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August 15th, 2010, 19:26	#2
cooliscool Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SC, USA Posts: 7,231	I'd recommend an E8400 if you plan to stick to LGA775 but don't need the extra cores the Q series offer. Most E8400s hit 4GHz, but I've never seen one that didn't hit 3.8GHz (with an apt motherboard and RAM). At either speed you'd be able to run most things in Dolphin/PCSX2 well. __________________

August 15th, 2010, 19:53	#3
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,427	How much is the Q9505 there? Anyways out of those 2 the E8400 would definitely be the better choice considering your usage patterns. The Lower clocks of the Q8400 would hurt you (and the low Multiplier) and considering overclocking it would produce far more heat than overclocking the E8400 it's just really not an option. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

August 15th, 2010, 20:38	#4
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	There's no Q9505 here, just the 9550, but it's the same price as i7, so no go. Thanks will stick with the E8400 then. Just need to find someone to buy my old processor. On a note, i found someone selling an used Core 2 Quad 2.66ghz for half price of a new one. R$230 against R$415. It's probably the Q8400, or the Q6700. Waiting for his response. I think it's a great deal, isn't? __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

August 15th, 2010, 20:43	#5
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,427	Actually it's quite possibly an old Q9450 or a Q9400 which is definitely better than a Q8400 (since the Q8400 is essentially a butchered eco version of the Q9400 which is a butchered eco version of the Q9450..monstrous 12MB cache ftw)...but you don't know how ragged it's been run. And definitely don't go with an old Q6700, 65nm and hot brazilian temps are not the best of matches plus it will have seen plenty of use. A new E8400 is still your best option. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!! Last edited by SCHUMI_4EVER; August 15th, 2010 at 20:50..

August 15th, 2010, 20:49	#6
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Well the guy is also selling 2x 2gb ddr2, and a simple onboard intel board. I don't think he ever OC'ed the cpu. And why the 9400 would be better than the Q8400? EDIT: oh the extra 2mb cache. Well i'll have to wait for his answer on the model of CPU. EDIT2: Ok then ran from Q6xxx series. __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE Last edited by Mad; August 15th, 2010 at 20:55..

August 15th, 2010, 20:55	#7
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,427	They kept on cutting the Q9450's monstrous L2 12MB cache down. First to the Q9400 which has 6MB and then to the Q8400 which has just 4MB. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

August 15th, 2010, 20:56	#8
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	I'd say E8400 as well. Overclocking or not, it'll still be a very decent CPU, and aside from helping with games, it'll also be a good match for PCSX2, at least better than the Q8400 in my opinions.

August 15th, 2010, 21:00	#9
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,427	Hey RAP you had a Q9450 as far as I remember? would you say the old Q9450 would be a better choice over the new Q8400? __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

August 15th, 2010, 21:02	#10
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Yeah, I had a Q9450. I'd say the more cache you have the better... honestly. More cache means larger programs/applications will execute faster. And it seems to help with emulation as well.

August 15th, 2010, 21:52	#11
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	In my humble opinion the only reason NOT to go for the Q8400 would be PCSX2. In all games two of those cores from the Q CPU will be more than enough, but in modern gaming there's been a transition from dual core towards quad for some time. Besides, the Q8000 series is so cool, OC'ing won't be a problem at all. I have my Q8200 undervolted while at 2.8GHz, while default is 2.33. So just setting the FSB at 400 will give you a 3.2 GHz Quad if I'm not mistaken. But well, for PCSX2 that might not cut it. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

August 16th, 2010, 03:28	#12
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Well as i stated before, emulation is not the main reason for the CPU upgrade. Besides i can always borrow my bro PS2. __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

August 16th, 2010, 08:22	#14
Cid Highwind The Hunter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NL Posts: 15,877	Point taken, in the end it's his call. I was up for the same decision one and a half year ago and never really regretted it at all. Especially when seeing reports how some console ports really appreciated a Quad. I do wonder how much of a limiting factor his motherboard will be. Overclocking can put a lot of strain on the northbridge after all, and my P35 doesn't really like the Quad to go over 400FSB I think. With a G31 chipset, this is likely to be the case as well. A dual core is easier to overclock. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz // GPU: Sapphire ATi HD5870 1GB // Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 RAM: 4GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 // HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint // SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W // Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

August 16th, 2010, 13:26	#15
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Well thanks for the ideas. Food for thought. I'll try to contact the guy selling the used Quad, since it's a lot cheaper. If not, i'll go with the E8400. And about my GPU, my monitor is a 19´, so i run games @ 1440x900, and i hardly turn on any filters like Aniso or AntiAliasing... __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

August 16th, 2010, 15:00	#16
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Me again. On the store, they're selling the E8400 for R$449, and the E7500 for R$315. If i don't OC any of them, the E7500 is really much slower than E8400? __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE

August 16th, 2010, 15:06	#17
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,427	Considering the price difference I'd say the E7500 would be a great bang for buck choice. The cache is gonna hurt you in gaming though. Bench - CPU - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

August 16th, 2010, 15:18	#18
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 4,030	Reading some forums, i'm afraid the E8400 will be limited by my GPU. And i don't plan on chaging the GPU soon, as i would have to get a new PSU also. I'd rather get only a new CPU now, as next year i'll probably change my laptop. EDIT: this is roughtly the upgrade will get: http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/87?vs=98 In games seems good enough. __________________ Main PC:Win 7 SP1 PRO X64 - Asus P5G41C-M LX - Intel Q6600@2.4Ghz - OCZ 2x 2GB DDR2 1000Mhz - Sapphire Vapor-X HD5770 1GB GDDR5 - 19" LCD SyncMaster T190 - Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB HTPC:Acer Aspire AR1600 - Windows 7 PRO X86 - Atom 230@1.6Ghz - 3GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia ION LE - SATA II WD 160GB + Seagate GoFlex Desk 2TB USB 3.0 Notebook:Dell Inspiron 14R N4110 - Windows 7 SP1 PRO X64 / Ubuntu 12.04 X64 - Intel Core i5 2410M@2.3Ghz - 8GB DDR3@1333Mhz - Intel HD 3000 - WDC SATA II 640GB + SSD Kingston V200 128GB +WD Scorpio Blue 320GB USB 3.0 CASE Last edited by Mad; August 16th, 2010 at 15:26..

August 16th, 2010, 16:54	#19
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,427	I meant eventhough the E8400 and the E7500 have almost identical clocks the butchered cache on the E7500 shows itself in gaming VS the E8400. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

August 16th, 2010, 20:55	#20
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	While the E7500 is great in bang for the buck, if you already have an E5x00, not so much worth it anymore. Either get the E8400 or save your money and stay with what you have. That's my take. Edit: Ha, just noticed your motherboard. I have the same one in my secondary PC, also paired with an E8400. It had an E2160, which I took to 3.0GHz (didn't try higher, might have gone higher) easily, but the E8400 is stock in it. Haven't really "tried" to overclock it since it has a high FSB and the RAM ratio control is very limited, but perhaps I really should. With that board though, I wager either of the two CPUs will be at, or near, stock, since it seems to like 65nm and lower FSB CPUs more for overclocking farther. As for the GPU, yes, but may hold you back most in games, but if that's a reason to intentionally get a CPU that be slower most of the time with your needs, so be it I guess. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."