nullDC Project is over, at least my part in it - Page 3

thesilent · August 19th, 2010, 01:55

I am late as well. I am enjoying the hell outta this emu. Thanks for all the hard work!

the_randomizer · September 6th, 2010, 23:40

Apparently, he's not giving up on nullDC after all: http://drk.emudev.org/blog/?p=147

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trickytree · September 13th, 2010, 15:12

It's a shame the author is more interested in a PS3 port than fixing the issues with the PC version, particularly as he's asking for donations to get a PS3.

I'd happily donate towards a more compatible PC version, but not towards another port with all the same issues.

EDIT: this isn't meant as a moan btw

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scyy · October 11th, 2010, 08:17

Great work as always raziel. Hope your continued work is as good as it always has been.

drhycodan · October 11th, 2010, 21:36

I concur. Why would you port over something that isn't even finished to begin with? I'd say fix up the PC version first and foremost by increasing the accuracy and compatibility of the emulator first before using up resources on new features and porting.

the_randomizer · October 12th, 2010, 00:23

I think we should all send an email begging him to work on the PC version, fix a few bugs (such as some games not having stereo sound *cough*Grandia2*cough*), THEN release PS3/Wii ports.

hookonsonic2 · October 12th, 2010, 03:06

This thread is revived again! Anyway, I agree. Fix the PC version first, then once most of the people are satisfied (which they aren't), then you should make other console ports.

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BinarySlave · October 12th, 2010, 12:10

@drhycodan, the_randomizer, hookonsonic2
How about you doing all the fixes and improvements?

And how dare you to tell someone dedicating a lot of his free time into something, all of you are allowed to use for free, what he shall do?

Grow up, immediately!
And believe me, this is easier done than what you are demanding.

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hookonsonic2 · October 13th, 2010, 03:14

@BinarySlave, holy f***! We weren't trying to force razi to do stuff, we were merely suggesting that he spend more time on the PC version, rather than the PS3 and Wii ports.

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Grow up, immediately!

You're the one that needs to grow up. Read and understand the context of these messages thoroughly before you tell us to "grow up".

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the_randomizer · October 13th, 2010, 05:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by BinarySlave

@drhycodan, the_randomizer, hookonsonic2
How about you doing all the fixes and improvements?

And how dare you to tell someone dedicating a lot of his free time into something, all of you are allowed to use for free, what he shall do?

Grow up, immediately!
And believe me, this is easier done than what you are demanding.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5107544_n.jpg

Is that you volunteering? Do you want to become an emulator programmer? Then shut up. What? You actually want me to listen? Too bad, but I'm too busy to care.

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BinarySlave · October 13th, 2010, 13:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookonsonic2

... Fix the PC version first, then once most of the people are satisfied (which they aren't), then you should make other console ports.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hookonsonic2

Read and understand the context of these messages thoroughly before you tell us to "grow up".

It would have been better, you reading & thinking before posting.
That "understand the context" thing still keeps me laughing nonstop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_randomizer

Is that you volunteering? Do you want to become an emulator programmer? Then shut up. What? You actually want me to listen? Too bad, but I'm too busy to care.

See the nice link I've added to your reply.
The way you try to process your own experiences clearly shows that you still have a long way to go,
but don't give up.

Grow up, both of you.
Once you're out of puberty it becomes easier, millions have proven this already.

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the_randomizer · October 13th, 2010, 14:07

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Originally Posted by BinarySlave

Grow up, both of you.
Once you're out of puberty it becomes easier, millions have proven this already.

I'm sure they have. Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go back to simply not giving a da**.

If I wanted a good argument, I would have paid five pounds and went into John Cleese's office.

Gareth1977 · October 13th, 2010, 15:22

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Originally Posted by the_randomizer

I think we should all send an email begging him to work on the PC version, fix a few bugs (such as some games not having stereo sound *cough*Grandia2*cough*), THEN release PS3/Wii ports.

That's the best way to get him to quit again. The begging is a contributing factor why he left the project the first time.

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hookonsonic2 · October 14th, 2010, 02:50

Would an admin mind deleting this recent dispute that has broken out on this post? This is NOT the place to argue. It was just an announcement by Razi.

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Pulsar_t · February 12th, 2011, 17:30

I wonder what happened to the SVN fork?

trickytree · February 14th, 2011, 21:29

So do I - it seems the four or so active devs there had a chat and together decided to, ahem, fork off.

Maybe they're extremely busy adding the WinCE/MMU compatibility.

trickytree · July 22nd, 2011, 02:58

Well, I guess not. The project's about as comatose as can be, along with the other DC emulators Makaron and Demul. The common sense thing of course would be for everyone to work on one merged emulator now that nullDC is open source, but that hasn't happened.

Think of an emulator with nullDC's options, GUI and CHD support, Makaron's MMU/WinCE and Demul's Atomiswave/Naomi 1+2 compatibility. Wouldn't that be great? The emulator authors don't think so, frustratingly.

So if the DC emulator devs won't play ball together, then has any effort been made to get other developers in to work on nullDC, say from Dolphin or PCSX2? That would seem the logical step if the current developers have lost interest.

KrossX · July 22nd, 2011, 06:21

You cannot just mash together the DC devs and expect them to work in a new fused manner. And even worse, you cannot just kidnap devs from other projects and force them work on nullDC. (tried that already, didn't work) XD

They have their projects in which they're comfortable and/or interested in and that's it. At least, that's how I see it.

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DJoneK · July 22nd, 2011, 17:02

At least, as long as nullDC is open source, sooner or later there is bound to be progress. It's sad to see it stuck like this, but it could be much much worse. *Looks at PJ64*

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PsyMan · July 22nd, 2011, 17:31

Hate to break it to you but when demul was open source it had no progress. Other, less known dreamcast emulators that are open source for few or many years (there are even some dating from 2004 or even earlier) also had little to no progress over all those years.

Do not expect a "united" emulator or something. Do not expect open source emulators to have progress just because the code is available either.

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August 19th, 2010, 01:55	#41
thesilent Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: USA Posts: 4	I am late as well. I am enjoying the hell outta this emu. Thanks for all the hard work!

September 6th, 2010, 23:40	#42
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,620	Apparently, he's not giving up on nullDC after all: http://drk.emudev.org/blog/?p=147 Last edited by the_randomizer; September 6th, 2010 at 23:41.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

September 13th, 2010, 15:12	#43
trickytree Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 113	It's a shame the author is more interested in a PS3 port than fixing the issues with the PC version, particularly as he's asking for donations to get a PS3. I'd happily donate towards a more compatible PC version, but not towards another port with all the same issues. EDIT: this isn't meant as a moan btw Last edited by trickytree; September 14th, 2010 at 14:27..

October 11th, 2010, 08:17	#44
scyy Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: USA Posts: 4	Great work as always raziel. Hope your continued work is as good as it always has been.

October 11th, 2010, 21:36	#45
drhycodan Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 412	I concur. Why would you port over something that isn't even finished to begin with? I'd say fix up the PC version first and foremost by increasing the accuracy and compatibility of the emulator first before using up resources on new features and porting.

October 12th, 2010, 00:23	#46
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,620	I think we should all send an email begging him to work on the PC version, fix a few bugs (such as some games not having stereo sound coughGrandia2cough), THEN release PS3/Wii ports.

October 12th, 2010, 03:06	#47
hookonsonic2 All hail me! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: ARK Posts: 416	This thread is revived again! Anyway, I agree. Fix the PC version first, then once most of the people are satisfied (which they aren't), then you should make other console ports. __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 810 @ 2.6Ghz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, NVidia GTS 450, 750GB HD, DVD +- RW w/ Lightscribe, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

October 12th, 2010, 12:10	#48
BinarySlave Tyrant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherworld Posts: 474	@drhycodan, the_randomizer, hookonsonic2 How about you doing all the fixes and improvements? And how dare you to tell someone dedicating a lot of his free time into something, all of you are allowed to use for free, what he shall do? Grow up, immediately! And believe me, this is easier done than what you are demanding. __________________ 'They were given tools of great power to build great things, but all they managed to do was destroying things of greatness.' [BinarySlave, 21st Century] Last edited by BinarySlave; October 12th, 2010 at 12:10.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

October 14th, 2010, 02:50	#54
hookonsonic2 All hail me! Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: ARK Posts: 416	Would an admin mind deleting this recent dispute that has broken out on this post? This is NOT the place to argue. It was just an announcement by Razi. __________________ AMD Phenom II X4 810 @ 2.6Ghz, 8GB DDR3 RAM, NVidia GTS 450, 750GB HD, DVD +- RW w/ Lightscribe, Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit.

February 12th, 2011, 17:30	#55
Pulsar_t Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Europa Posts: 58	I wonder what happened to the SVN fork?

February 14th, 2011, 21:29	#56
trickytree Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 113	So do I - it seems the four or so active devs there had a chat and together decided to, ahem, fork off. Maybe they're extremely busy adding the WinCE/MMU compatibility.

July 22nd, 2011, 02:58	#57
trickytree Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: UK Posts: 113	Well, I guess not. The project's about as comatose as can be, along with the other DC emulators Makaron and Demul. The common sense thing of course would be for everyone to work on one merged emulator now that nullDC is open source, but that hasn't happened. Think of an emulator with nullDC's options, GUI and CHD support, Makaron's MMU/WinCE and Demul's Atomiswave/Naomi 1+2 compatibility. Wouldn't that be great? The emulator authors don't think so, frustratingly. So if the DC emulator devs won't play ball together, then has any effort been made to get other developers in to work on nullDC, say from Dolphin or PCSX2? That would seem the logical step if the current developers have lost interest.

July 22nd, 2011, 06:21	#58
KrossX クロッスエクス Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Argentina Posts: 3,649	You cannot just mash together the DC devs and expect them to work in a new fused manner. And even worse, you cannot just kidnap devs from other projects and force them work on nullDC. (tried that already, didn't work) XD They have their projects in which they're comfortable and/or interested in and that's it. At least, that's how I see it. __________________

July 22nd, 2011, 17:02	#59
DJoneK Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Oviedo, FL Posts: 57	At least, as long as nullDC is open source, sooner or later there is bound to be progress. It's sad to see it stuck like this, but it could be much much worse. Looks at PJ64 __________________ Vista 32bit Ultimate/Intel Core 2 Duo E6420 @ 2.13Ghz/4GB DDR2/NVIDIA GeForce 450GTS

July 22nd, 2011, 17:31	#60
PsyMan Bannҽd Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where banned people go Posts: 2,157	Hate to break it to you but when demul was open source it had no progress. Other, less known dreamcast emulators that are open source for few or many years (there are even some dating from 2004 or even earlier) also had little to no progress over all those years. Do not expect a "united" emulator or something. Do not expect open source emulators to have progress just because the code is available either. __________________ I'm not insane. YOU are insane... You are all insane! Click Here to Visit my Blog Page