Bleach plagiarized

**Hard core Rikki** · February 25th, 2010, 09:31

Seems the son of the rockstar Gene Simmons has been up to naughty copypastas, making a comic out of 'homestyle' traces passed off as his own original work, no less. Kid couldve at least not used one of the most popular mangas in existence as a 'source of inspiration'.

Individual panels, expressions, character designs, perspectives, captions, clothing... You name it.

Details here, with lots of updates and comparative screens. Recommended to check it all.

- bleachness: Gene Simmons' son Plagiarizing Bleach?

"Samples":

Only a master would manage to talk himself out of this one.

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**cottonvibes** · February 25th, 2010, 09:59

heh that's some obvious plagiarism right there.
wouldn't be so bad if it was just a fan comic and not an officially published one.

i should add that his comic does look alot nicer than the bleach manga since its colored.
one of the reasons i don't read manga is due to the black and white art.

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Phil · February 25th, 2010, 11:32

That's why graphic novels are better. But i don't see what this kid has to gain from copying someone else's work.

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DinJerr · February 25th, 2010, 12:11

No, it's just a coincidence. :P

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Phil · February 25th, 2010, 12:15

Are you his lawyer?

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Irukapooka · February 25th, 2010, 12:36

Is this kid selling the comics to make his own profit? I'm too lazy to read the article.

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DinJerr · February 25th, 2010, 12:45

No seriously. He's a western artist. That other comic is manga. Everyone knows anybody who likes western comics will diss manga, so there's no way Gene Simmons' kid would draw like some yellow monkey. It's just some weird cosmic force that drives two people to draw the exact scene the same exact way at a different interval. That's gotta be the explanation.

Oh wait, he admitted himself to be Japanophile in an interview:
AR: You’re artistic technique clearly draws its influences from manga, that being said, who would you consider to be your biggest influences as an artist?

Kentaro Miura is my favorite artist right now -- he's not an influence as much as he is an unreachable goal. He's the moon that I'm shooting for -- and even if I miss, I may just land among the stars, as they say. His most recent work is so far beyond any other comic art I've ever seen.
Source: Nick Simmons: Bringing the Revenants to Life: Interviews & Features Archive - Comics Bulletin

Right. Kentaro Miura. Of course. That's where that obvious style is from. Okay.

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nanaya · February 25th, 2010, 13:03

This guys is interesting, I thought only country like mine dare to blatantly plagiate famous work. Isn't US law is harsh for something like this?

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VIZ Media, the American publisher of the Bleach manga, is currently looking into the matter and has "a team on it". Kubo Tite, the author of Bleach, has made a tweet acknowledging the plagiarism though he seems more "interested in the fact that Gene Simmons's son wants to be a mangaka".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarnate_(comics)

Irukapooka · February 25th, 2010, 13:14

Lol yes.

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verboten999 · February 25th, 2010, 14:16

Ugh, this is embarassing. But no further news about it yet? On how the bloke react? He didn't even try to make it a little bit different. Literally tracing it.

Silenus · February 25th, 2010, 14:26

He's waiting to release it for the iPad and make tons of money. Seriously.

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verboten999 · February 25th, 2010, 14:33

I'm eagerly waiting for the coming news then.

**Hard core Rikki** · February 25th, 2010, 15:59

Seems he ripped the work of one artist from deviantart "Rae"
Other than how sad it is to see these kind of rips passed off as original work, there isnt much of interest in this. Hopefully the next Bleach chapter does not suffer from this.

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Bleach grimmjow by RAE by =siguredo on deviantART

Gene Simmons' son stealing art?! - CNN iReport

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Gone are the days of stealing famous paintings and selling them on the black market. The era of heists that Hollywood romanticized has ended.

In the modern world, thieves now plague the internet, using popular art sites in order to steal, trace, and claim the art as their own. The general public isn’t well aware of this threat, but now that famous rocker Gene Simmons’ own son has been caught in the act, perhaps it’s time the world was more savvy.

Nick Simmons, son of Gene Simmons, claims to be an artist, even ‘creating’ and selling a comic which he claims to be his own ‘original’. Sorry Simmons, but it looks like fans of the comics you copied are smarter than you thought! Popular manga, or Japanese comic, Bleach, seems to be the main ‘inspiration’ that Simmons used when looking for things to trace and call his own. Not only that, but Simmons even goes so far as to not even state the manga-ka, or creator and artist of Bleach, Tite Kubo.

Now, we all know that tracing is a part of childhood. It’s part of learning, but tracing another’s hard work, income? And then claiming it not just as your own, but neglecting to give credit to the original artist? But our favorite art thief doesn’t just stop there! He goes to publish his comic, using his father’s name to help bolster sales!
Included are some images for comparison, but it doesn’t take a genius to see how oddly similar the images are. Artists are disgusted by his claim to be one of them, and fans are clamoring for justice!

Yet the questions remain: Will his father’s name protect him from plagiarizing? How were the publishers not able to see the similarities? And if they did, why did they not bring it up? In a case that reeks of foul play, many more questions will arise.
In the world of Photoshop, are such acts allowed?

The following links are included for those who are interested in gathering their own conclusions:

Incarnate
bleachness: Gene Simmons' son Plagiarizing Bleach?

The colored comic pages are 'drawn' by our lovable art theif: Nick Simmons. The black and white pictures are scans of the original, belonging to Tite Kubo.
Incarnate is published by Radical Comics.

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Spyhop · February 25th, 2010, 16:02

all anime rooks same.

verboten999 · February 25th, 2010, 16:18

Heh, as long as it makes money I guess

Squall-Leonhart · February 25th, 2010, 17:45

Calling for legal action against Nick Simmons for plagiarism of other works | Facebook

**Hard core Rikki** · February 25th, 2010, 17:46

The kid denies the obvious. He even suggests that facebook is looking to suspend the accounts of those who reported him.

Skip that, the delusional Nick even wants the debunkers to apologize to him.

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verboten999 · February 25th, 2010, 17:55

Isn't it just a troll? Would be fun if he is the one who posted that though.

Squall-Leonhart · February 25th, 2010, 17:56

Last edited by Squall-Leonhart; February 25th, 2010 at 17:56.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

Spyhop · February 25th, 2010, 17:58

"I will ask Facebook not to press charges..."

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Hard core Rikki Moving into the beat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 11,287	Bleach plagiarized Seems the son of the rockstar Gene Simmons has been up to naughty copypastas, making a comic out of 'homestyle' traces passed off as his own original work, no less. Kid couldve at least not used one of the most popular mangas in existence as a 'source of inspiration'. Individual panels, expressions, character designs, perspectives, captions, clothing... You name it. Details here, with lots of updates and comparative screens. Recommended to check it all. - bleachness: Gene Simmons' son Plagiarizing Bleach? "Samples": Only a master would manage to talk himself out of this one. __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| VBA-M \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu \| FMVTool2 \| @ES \| Shendo new NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

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February 25th, 2010, 09:59	#2
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	heh that's some obvious plagiarism right there. wouldn't be so bad if it was just a fan comic and not an officially published one. i should add that his comic does look alot nicer than the bleach manga since its colored. one of the reasons i don't read manga is due to the black and white art. __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

February 25th, 2010, 11:32	#3
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	That's why graphic novels are better. But i don't see what this kid has to gain from copying someone else's work. __________________ Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others

February 25th, 2010, 12:11	#4
DinJerr keeping it real Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Koala Lumpur Posts: 770	No, it's just a coincidence. :P __________________ Deader than the walking ones. DarkNite : i5 2500K @ 3.7 Ghz \| Gigabyte GA Z86XP-UD3P \| 8GB DDR3 1600 \| Leadtek WinFast 560Ti 1024 DDR5 \| Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-E \| Corsair 60gb SSD for Win7 \| SEAGATE 1 tb 32MB for Win8 CP \| Envision P2373DL 3D LED Satty: Samsung ATIV SmartPC Pro 700T \| i5 @ 2 Ghz \| 4GB DD3 \| 120gb SSD \| 3G Evo ED: HTC Evo 3D \| 16GB on SD

February 25th, 2010, 12:15	#5
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	Are you his lawyer? __________________ Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others

February 25th, 2010, 12:36	#6
Irukapooka Tushy :3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Guess. Posts: 5,128	Is this kid selling the comics to make his own profit? I'm too lazy to read the article. __________________ PS3: 3Dot Heroes, AC 1-3, AC2:B, AC:R, Batman: AA&AC, Bioshock 1&2, Condemned 2, Darksiders, Dead Nation, Dead Space 1&2, Demon's Souls, Eternal Sonata, FEAR 1-3, FFXIII, Heavy Rain, ICO/SotC, Infamous 1-2, LA Noire, LBP 1-2, ME 2, Ni No Kuni, RDR, Tales of Graces f, Uncharted 1-3 Wii: Dead Space: Extraction, Legend of Zelda: SS, Okami, Prince of Persia: RS, Super Mario Galaxy, SSBB, ToS 2 Wishlist:Beyond Two Souls (PS3), Bioshock Infinite (PS3), Catherine (PS3), Darksiders 2 (PS3), Dead Space 3 (PS3), FFXIII-2 (PS3), ME Trilogy (PS3), SH8 (PS3), The Last Guardian (PS3), The Last of Us (PS3)

February 25th, 2010, 12:45	#7
DinJerr keeping it real Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Koala Lumpur Posts: 770	No seriously. He's a western artist. That other comic is manga. Everyone knows anybody who likes western comics will diss manga, so there's no way Gene Simmons' kid would draw like some yellow monkey. It's just some weird cosmic force that drives two people to draw the exact scene the same exact way at a different interval. That's gotta be the explanation. Oh wait, he admitted himself to be Japanophile in an interview: AR: You’re artistic technique clearly draws its influences from manga, that being said, who would you consider to be your biggest influences as an artist? Kentaro Miura is my favorite artist right now -- he's not an influence as much as he is an unreachable goal. He's the moon that I'm shooting for -- and even if I miss, I may just land among the stars, as they say. His most recent work is so far beyond any other comic art I've ever seen. Source: Nick Simmons: Bringing the Revenants to Life: Interviews & Features Archive - Comics Bulletin Right. Kentaro Miura. Of course. That's where that obvious style is from. Okay. __________________ Deader than the walking ones. DarkNite : i5 2500K @ 3.7 Ghz \| Gigabyte GA Z86XP-UD3P \| 8GB DDR3 1600 \| Leadtek WinFast 560Ti 1024 DDR5 \| Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium PCI-E \| Corsair 60gb SSD for Win7 \| SEAGATE 1 tb 32MB for Win8 CP \| Envision P2373DL 3D LED Satty: Samsung ATIV SmartPC Pro 700T \| i5 @ 2 Ghz \| 4GB DD3 \| 120gb SSD \| 3G Evo ED: HTC Evo 3D \| 16GB on SD

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Irukapooka Tushy :3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Guess. Posts: 5,128	Lol yes. __________________ PS3: 3Dot Heroes, AC 1-3, AC2:B, AC:R, Batman: AA&AC, Bioshock 1&2, Condemned 2, Darksiders, Dead Nation, Dead Space 1&2, Demon's Souls, Eternal Sonata, FEAR 1-3, FFXIII, Heavy Rain, ICO/SotC, Infamous 1-2, LA Noire, LBP 1-2, ME 2, Ni No Kuni, RDR, Tales of Graces f, Uncharted 1-3 Wii: Dead Space: Extraction, Legend of Zelda: SS, Okami, Prince of Persia: RS, Super Mario Galaxy, SSBB, ToS 2 Wishlist:Beyond Two Souls (PS3), Bioshock Infinite (PS3), Catherine (PS3), Darksiders 2 (PS3), Dead Space 3 (PS3), FFXIII-2 (PS3), ME Trilogy (PS3), SH8 (PS3), The Last Guardian (PS3), The Last of Us (PS3)

February 25th, 2010, 14:16	#10
verboten999 soshin Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,591	Ugh, this is embarassing. But no further news about it yet? On how the bloke react? He didn't even try to make it a little bit different. Literally tracing it.

February 25th, 2010, 14:26	#11
Silenus Pilgrim Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyperion Posts: 6,885	He's waiting to release it for the iPad and make tons of money. Seriously. __________________ DELL XPS 13 ULTRABOOK ...Mis sueños son mentiras que algun día dejarán de serlo...

February 25th, 2010, 14:33	#12
verboten999 soshin Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,591	I'm eagerly waiting for the coming news then.

February 25th, 2010, 16:02	#14
Spyhop Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SPAAACCCCE Posts: 7,343	all anime rooks same.

February 25th, 2010, 16:18	#15
verboten999 soshin Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,591	Heh, as long as it makes money I guess

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Squall-Leonhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 23,270	Calling for legal action against Nick Simmons for plagiarism of other works \| Facebook

February 25th, 2010, 17:46	#17
Hard core Rikki Moving into the beat Join Date: May 2004 Location: Perpetual Hawaii Posts: 11,287	The kid denies the obvious. He even suggests that facebook is looking to suspend the accounts of those who reported him. Skip that, the delusional Nick even wants the debunkers to apologize to him. __________________ deviantART \| Blog \| VBA-M \| GeneralEmu \| XTemu \| FMVTool2 \| @ES \| Shendo new NGemu toolbar http://ngemu.ourtoolbar.com

February 25th, 2010, 17:55	#18
verboten999 soshin Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,591	Isn't it just a troll? Would be fun if he is the one who posted that though.

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February 25th, 2010, 17:58	#20
Spyhop Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SPAAACCCCE Posts: 7,343	"I will ask Facebook not to press charges..." I lolled