a simple question about "limit FPS"

Battousai1 · February 15th, 2002, 06:37

what is the right thing enable "Limit FPS" or disable it on a system with PIII 550 Mhz, GF2 GTS, 128 MB RAM, SB16? what would be better or nearrer to PSX emulation speed enable or disable, I usually set the graphics to the best quality, sometimes medium

thnx

password0k · February 15th, 2002, 06:43

The FPS is a good idea even on a bad comp because somtimes (after leaving an area and b4 loading the next) the fps can go really high. If you're playing an NTSC game, set the fps to 60, and 50 for PAL. You can use auto-detect, but it doen't always work.

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**Kellicros** · February 15th, 2002, 06:45

enabling FPS limit will makes your game run at correct speed.
so enable it if possible and set to auto-detect.
if you wanna set manually, 60fps for ntsc and 50fps for pal.

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**Kane** · February 15th, 2002, 07:12

I normally use it set to 60 fps for my pal games, so taht they actulay run a a decent speed.
At other times I use it to limit my fps when I need to rush somewhere, like Pete does.

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<Id> · February 15th, 2002, 10:23

I ahve a similar computer to yours and I have it on 60 FPS manually set. This is of course with NTSC games.

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Prafull · February 15th, 2002, 11:58

If you feel that games are running too fast you can use limit fps option if you feel otherwise dont use it.

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Beaux · February 15th, 2002, 13:48

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Originally posted by Battousai1
what is the right thing enable "Limit FPS" or disable it on a system with PIII 550 Mhz, GF2 GTS, 128 MB RAM, SB16? what would be better or nearrer to PSX emulation speed enable or disable, I usually set the graphics to the best quality, sometimes medium

thnx

I have a computer about this same speed and I find it best to limit the FPS at about 64-67 if I want the game to go the right speed. (60 FPS/NTSC)

Beaux · February 15th, 2002, 13:51

Emulation usually goes too slow if you use automatic FPS. It should always be set a little higher. (55 for PAL, 65 for NTSC. That makes it go about the right speed.)

Viperx25 · February 15th, 2002, 16:16

Sorry for the stupid question

, but, why do NTSC and PAL games run at different FPS? Also, The same game in NTSC and PAL will will run differently from each other? WHY?

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February 15th, 2002, 16:43

PAL is made for european tv's , which usually run at 50 hz.
in order to let the screen run smooth, 25/50 fps is better than 30/60

imagine, 30 or 60 frames per second on a screen that refreshes 50 times a second. yup...looks choppy.
So they make em run at 25/50 (usually 25, psx isnt THAT powerful

)

NTSC is 60hz, refreshes 60 times a second, so that's where the games run at 30/60 fps.

Sometimes there are other small differences in a game, for example a different protection or other little differences. the emulator could "hickup" at those differences, making a US version of a game run better than PAL or reverse.

and in general, NTSC games are slightly smoother because they have those 5 fps extra...however, it's pretty hard to notice...and my monitor runs at 100hz...25/50fps looks better with that , with 4x25 being 100 and all

Last edited by Samor; February 15th, 2002 at 16:44..

Viperx25 · February 15th, 2002, 20:01

Thanks Samor,

I always wondered what the difference was. I didn't know that European tv's run at a different frequency....interesting. Anyway, now i know

. Thanks again.

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February 16th, 2002, 03:49

For my work's always good, when I change the speed play the like ****... Can't somebody explain to me why? ist not a big PC

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Andronicus · February 16th, 2002, 06:06

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Originally posted by otakuburn
For my work's always good, when I change the speed play the like ****... Can't somebody explain to me why? ist not a big PC

And I got a
AMD ATLHON 600 256 16
RIVA TNT2 Vanta 16

What a you talking about?

February 16th, 2002, 20:26

I think if you change the FPS LIMIT to manual the game don't run very well... that's all

February 15th, 2002, 06:37	#1
Battousai1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 42	a simple question about "limit FPS" what is the right thing enable "Limit FPS" or disable it on a system with PIII 550 Mhz, GF2 GTS, 128 MB RAM, SB16? what would be better or nearrer to PSX emulation speed enable or disable, I usually set the graphics to the best quality, sometimes medium thnx

February 16th, 2002, 20:26	#14
otakuburn Guest Posts: n/a	What the Hell are you.... I think if you change the FPS LIMIT to manual the game don't run very well... that's all

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February 15th, 2002, 06:43	#2
password0k "Greetings, citizen!" Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: between the computer and the TV Posts: 475	The FPS is a good idea even on a bad comp because somtimes (after leaving an area and b4 loading the next) the fps can go really high. If you're playing an NTSC game, set the fps to 60, and 50 for PAL. You can use auto-detect, but it doen't always work. __________________ SUBVERT THE DOMINANT PARADIGM. "Remove her diseased charcoal, and stomp the equal hook." - random text generator "Life throws shit at you and all you can do is your best to dodge it." - Me IF YOU'RE NOT A MAGGOT, YOU'RE AS GOOD AS BREAD!.

February 15th, 2002, 06:45	#3
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,719	enabling FPS limit will makes your game run at correct speed. so enable it if possible and set to auto-detect. if you wanna set manually, 60fps for ntsc and 50fps for pal. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

February 15th, 2002, 07:12	#4
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	I normally use it set to 60 fps for my pal games, so taht they actulay run a a decent speed. At other times I use it to limit my fps when I need to rush somewhere, like Pete does. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

February 15th, 2002, 10:23	#5
<Id> Grahf's Second Advent Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Your Mind Posts: 401	I ahve a similar computer to yours and I have it on 60 FPS manually set. This is of course with NTSC games. __________________ Id:"That was pretty interesting. But dropping a warship on me is cheating... take it back!" (Xenogears)

February 15th, 2002, 11:58	#6
Prafull Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 5,430	If you feel that games are running too fast you can use limit fps option if you feel otherwise dont use it. __________________

February 15th, 2002, 13:51	#8
Beaux Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 37	Emulation usually goes too slow if you use automatic FPS. It should always be set a little higher. (55 for PAL, 65 for NTSC. That makes it go about the right speed.)

February 15th, 2002, 16:16	#9
Viperx25 Technology Guru Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 285	Sorry for the stupid question , but, why do NTSC and PAL games run at different FPS? Also, The same game in NTSC and PAL will will run differently from each other? WHY? __________________ My System Specs: Viewsonic E790B 19" Monitor MSI 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R P4 3.2Ghz HTT Thermaltake Spark 7 HSF 2x512mb Kingston HyperX DDR400Mhz Leadtek A350 TDH Ultra (FX 5900 Ultra) (480Mhz core, 930Mhz memory) 35GB Maxtor/Quantum Ultra160 SCSI Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Antec Performance Plus 660B case 400 Watt PSU WinXP Pro

February 15th, 2002, 16:43	#10
Samor Guest Posts: n/a	PAL is made for european tv's , which usually run at 50 hz. in order to let the screen run smooth, 25/50 fps is better than 30/60 imagine, 30 or 60 frames per second on a screen that refreshes 50 times a second. yup...looks choppy. So they make em run at 25/50 (usually 25, psx isnt THAT powerful ) NTSC is 60hz, refreshes 60 times a second, so that's where the games run at 30/60 fps. Sometimes there are other small differences in a game, for example a different protection or other little differences. the emulator could "hickup" at those differences, making a US version of a game run better than PAL or reverse. and in general, NTSC games are slightly smoother because they have those 5 fps extra...however, it's pretty hard to notice...and my monitor runs at 100hz...25/50fps looks better with that , with 4x25 being 100 and all Last edited by Samor; February 15th, 2002 at 16:44..

February 15th, 2002, 20:01	#11
Viperx25 Technology Guru Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 285	Thanks Samor, I always wondered what the difference was. I didn't know that European tv's run at a different frequency....interesting. Anyway, now i know . Thanks again. __________________ My System Specs: Viewsonic E790B 19" Monitor MSI 865PE Neo2 - FIS2R P4 3.2Ghz HTT Thermaltake Spark 7 HSF 2x512mb Kingston HyperX DDR400Mhz Leadtek A350 TDH Ultra (FX 5900 Ultra) (480Mhz core, 930Mhz memory) 35GB Maxtor/Quantum Ultra160 SCSI Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Antec Performance Plus 660B case 400 Watt PSU WinXP Pro