Can I Run Dolphin at Full Speed?

Sonic2036 · July 26th, 2009, 16:56

Well , I have Chrome IGP Family (We all know its a horrible graphic card for 3D Games >_>) and I am willing to buy a new graphic card but what should I buy?.

I have 4GB Ram (75 Used for Graphic Card) and 4GHZ (75 used for memory) , my computer isn't laggy and it works well , I alredy emulated PS2 Emulator and made it like 60% speed or 50%.

here is my computer description:

Also my graphic card is : "Chrome IGP Family" , I know its bad.

What graphic card should I buy? what do I need to make my Wii Emulator work Perfect or almost full speed or even half speed judging my computer description?

Thanks in advanced

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niuus · July 26th, 2009, 19:06

With that computer, you'll never see any "full speed" emulation. Unless you can overclock to 7 GHz of course, and even then it's not guaranteed.

A better card will only give you a little-to-medium boost in FPS, and nVidia cards are good for the task: 8800 and upwards.

Still do not expect any full speed results. Maybe in a couple of non-demanding games (or some optimized games that have been through many fixes for it's correct emulation), but that's it.

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If games don't work in emulators, play it on the real Gamecube.
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Sonic2036 · July 26th, 2009, 20:06

According to this video , it would work half orignal game speed:

YouTube - Sonic Unleashed on Dolphin Wii/GC Emulator (HQ) | Working |

and the owner have 2GHZ only . 3.5 Ram and a geforce... so why do I need to make it 7 GHZ? can you tell me the issue with my computer and dolphin?

also just to say , I am not planing to use IGP Family Chrome , I am planing to buy a new graphic card. help if possible =p

All I am asking is a playabbility , meaning I want it to be Frame Skipping is ok but I want to make it work playable at least. =\

Last edited by Sonic2036; July 26th, 2009 at 20:27..

niuus · July 26th, 2009, 21:57

You want full speed in "your Wii emulator", don't you?

BTW, Sonic games are the least demanding in my experience, even with a C2D@1.8 you get almost 60fps constantly.

The card suggestion is already on the other post. Just don't go ATi.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

If games don't work in emulators, play it on the real Gamecube.
Uh? No Gamecube? How about NOT playing these games?

Main Rig:

Motherboard: Gigabyte P55M-UD2 / CPU: Intel i7 870@3.40GHz / RAM: 16GB DDR3@1333 / Video: eVGA GTX 470 1280MB (285.62) / Sound: Soundblaster X-Fi ElitePro / Speakers: Creative Inspire 5.1 5200 / HDD: WD 3TB SATAII / OS: Windows 7 SP1+ x64

Squall-Leonhart · July 26th, 2009, 22:35

Dolphin requires a OpenGL supporting graphics card.. and VIA's drivers have never supported opengl properly.

boogerlad · July 26th, 2009, 23:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonic2036

According to this video , it would work half orignal game speed:

YouTube - Sonic Unleashed on Dolphin Wii/GC Emulator (HQ) | Working |

and the owner have 2GHZ only . 3.5 Ram and a geforce... so why do I need to make it 7 GHZ? can you tell me the issue with my computer and dolphin?

also just to say , I am not planing to use IGP Family Chrome , I am planing to buy a new graphic card. help if possible =p

All I am asking is a playabbility , meaning I want it to be Frame Skipping is ok but I want to make it work playable at least. =\

it's not about the clock speed! It's about clock for clock performance. a 8ghz p4 lost to a 3ghz conroe. Also, you can't use frameskipping because the jit can't recompile fast enough.

MisterMr · July 26th, 2009, 23:36

FYI A couple examples of low-demanding games are ones such as Super Smash Bros. Melee, Starfox Assault, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, and Luigi's Mansion.

Sonic2036 · July 27th, 2009, 06:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by niuus

You want full speed in "your Wii emulator", don't you?

BTW, Sonic games are the least demanding in my experience, even with a C2D@1.8 you get almost 60fps constantly.

The card suggestion is already on the other post. Just don't go ATi.

Well , I said I don't want it any more so , So if I buy a geforce , can I play this game Great at playability?

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Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

Dolphin requires a OpenGL supporting graphics card.. and VIA's drivers have never supported opengl properly.

Yeah I know , Via is horrible that is why I am trying to buy geforce but I only want to see if it makes a difference. I Try to open the game using dolphin and openLG and it doesn't work (I am not surprised) or try D3D and it shows a black screen (I am not suprised) and the sound is slow so I guess , ofcourse I am using via chrome and it suppose to do this lol

you guys recommend what graphic card? is geforce9800 that good?
I take the advice and I won't take ati.

and 1 more question , which is a better plugin OpenLG or D3D9 , becuase I heared openLG normally doesn't start games and an error message says it doesn't have memmory. also the screen shot i posted (its from my computer).

what should I buy to be perfect with minimum requirement games like sonic , My birth day is 30 July so , give me an Idea

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Originally Posted by boogerlad

it's not about the clock speed! It's about clock for clock performance. a 8ghz p4 lost to a 3ghz conroe. Also, you can't use frameskipping because the jit can't recompile fast enough.

soo , if I buy a geforce like in the video , could it do much?

Last edited by Sonic2036; July 27th, 2009 at 06:48.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

Squall-Leonhart · July 27th, 2009, 06:50

try for a GTS250 instead

the opengl plugin is updated more often (daily if not weekly) then the directx9 plugin (updated every blue moon)

Sonic2036 · July 27th, 2009, 07:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

try for a GTS250 instead

the opengl plugin is updated more often (daily if not weekly) then the directx9 plugin (updated every blue moon)

So all I need is a new possessor with at least 2.3 GHZ and GTS250?

Squall-Leonhart · July 27th, 2009, 07:55

im not sure on the processor speed actually

but the GTS250 is decently powered while maintaining affordability

MisterMr · July 27th, 2009, 08:00

I can get 50-60 FPS on some games with my 2.2 GHz Quad-Core. (Though I OC'd it to 2.5 GHz now so the games run even better.)

jasong · July 27th, 2009, 08:50

Really an e7200 (2.5ghz c2d) will run games nearly fullspeed. And those things overclock to the moon - i had 3.0ghz on stock cooler with no problems on a nothing motherboard.

gts 250 is a good choice I reckon yes.

lazydave80 · July 27th, 2009, 12:10

sorry for hijacking the thread, but i am building a new rig and have a question very similar to the OP's.
i'm settled on a core 2 cpu but i am torn between Nvidia and ATI for the gpu (probably HD 4850 or GTS 250). which would be better for dolphin? i've been researching this for weeks but cannot find a definitive answer. any help would be appreciated guys!

oh and for Sonic2036 - you should try and get as fast a Core architecture processor as you can, and then get a GPU to go with that. what i mean is your current pentium isn't fast enough for dolphin no matter what graphics card you have. get a fast cpu (an e5*00 or e7*00 for example) - the fastest that you can afford and that your motherboard will take - and then get the best graphics card that you can afford. hope this helps.

Sonic2036 · July 27th, 2009, 17:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazydave80

sorry for hijacking the thread, but i am building a new rig and have a question very similar to the OP's.
i'm settled on a core 2 cpu but i am torn between Nvidia and ATI for the gpu (probably HD 4850 or GTS 250). which would be better for dolphin? i've been researching this for weeks but cannot find a definitive answer. any help would be appreciated guys!

oh and for Sonic2036 - you should try and get as fast a Core architecture processor as you can, and then get a GPU to go with that. what i mean is your current pentium isn't fast enough for dolphin no matter what graphics card you have. get a fast cpu (an e5*00 or e7*00 for example) - the fastest that you can afford and that your motherboard will take - and then get the best graphics card that you can afford. hope this helps.

is it ok a intel core 2 , 3GHZ and a Geforce8800?
might as well see my Old possessor. also , the Thread was about to die but it didn't really die so I don't mind XD

Laurensnl · July 27th, 2009, 23:21

I would say, go buy GeForce GTS 250. It's a high end low budget card. Performs very well. I really recommend it. Never buy ATI cards if you don't want crappy drivers/software and other well known problems.
Just go for GeForce!

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MisterMr · July 28th, 2009, 00:23

I could overclock my AMD 9550 to 2.8 GHz on stock cooler, but I'd need to increase voltage to the CPU, which I'm not willing to do.

Like I said, OCing helps Sonic if your processor can do it...

Laurensnl · July 28th, 2009, 00:44

Yeah, OCing is a good thing. Even when your cpu is fast enough. OCing is fun to do, takes some time, but the results are awesome! I OCed my Q6600 from 2.4 to 3.6, I bought a Z600 cooler. Temps are good and pc is 50% faster!
If you really want to push it up high you should look for watercooling. With water cooling I could reach the 4 ghz eass!

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MisterMr · July 28th, 2009, 01:38

If you look at the CPU-Z validation database, some guy actually achieved 8.3 GHz off a Pentium 4. O_O

kronoxrox · July 28th, 2009, 02:40

tell him to run dolphin ASAP haaha

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July 26th, 2009, 20:06	#3
Sonic2036 Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sonic's world Posts: 343	According to this video , it would work half orignal game speed: YouTube - Sonic Unleashed on Dolphin Wii/GC Emulator (HQ) \| Working \| and the owner have 2GHZ only . 3.5 Ram and a geforce... so why do I need to make it 7 GHZ? can you tell me the issue with my computer and dolphin? also just to say , I am not planing to use IGP Family Chrome , I am planing to buy a new graphic card. help if possible =p All I am asking is a playabbility , meaning I want it to be Frame Skipping is ok but I want to make it work playable at least. =\ Last edited by Sonic2036; July 26th, 2009 at 20:27..

July 26th, 2009, 22:35	#5
Squall-Leonhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 23,270	Dolphin requires a OpenGL supporting graphics card.. and VIA's drivers have never supported opengl properly.

July 26th, 2009, 23:36	#7
MisterMr Locked and Loaded. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United States Posts: 191	FYI A couple examples of low-demanding games are ones such as Super Smash Bros. Melee, Starfox Assault, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, and Luigi's Mansion.

July 27th, 2009, 06:50	#9
Squall-Leonhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 23,270	try for a GTS250 instead the opengl plugin is updated more often (daily if not weekly) then the directx9 plugin (updated every blue moon)

July 27th, 2009, 07:55	#11
Squall-Leonhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 23,270	im not sure on the processor speed actually but the GTS250 is decently powered while maintaining affordability

July 27th, 2009, 08:00	#12
MisterMr Locked and Loaded. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United States Posts: 191	I can get 50-60 FPS on some games with my 2.2 GHz Quad-Core. (Though I OC'd it to 2.5 GHz now so the games run even better.)

July 27th, 2009, 08:50	#13
jasong Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: South Africa Posts: 815	Really an e7200 (2.5ghz c2d) will run games nearly fullspeed. And those things overclock to the moon - i had 3.0ghz on stock cooler with no problems on a nothing motherboard. gts 250 is a good choice I reckon yes.

July 27th, 2009, 12:10	#14
lazydave80 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 8	sorry for hijacking the thread, but i am building a new rig and have a question very similar to the OP's. i'm settled on a core 2 cpu but i am torn between Nvidia and ATI for the gpu (probably HD 4850 or GTS 250). which would be better for dolphin? i've been researching this for weeks but cannot find a definitive answer. any help would be appreciated guys! oh and for Sonic2036 - you should try and get as fast a Core architecture processor as you can, and then get a GPU to go with that. what i mean is your current pentium isn't fast enough for dolphin no matter what graphics card you have. get a fast cpu (an e500 or e700 for example) - the fastest that you can afford and that your motherboard will take - and then get the best graphics card that you can afford. hope this helps.

July 27th, 2009, 23:21	#16
Laurensnl Wii have a PCii Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 115	I would say, go buy GeForce GTS 250. It's a high end low budget card. Performs very well. I really recommend it. Never buy ATI cards if you don't want crappy drivers/software and other well known problems. Just go for GeForce! __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 3,6 ghz Point of View GeForce 8800GT 512 mb OCZ 4 gb RAM 1066 mhz Samsung SpinPoint F1 1000 gb Mobo: Asus P5K

July 28th, 2009, 00:23	#17
MisterMr Locked and Loaded. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United States Posts: 191	I could overclock my AMD 9550 to 2.8 GHz on stock cooler, but I'd need to increase voltage to the CPU, which I'm not willing to do. Like I said, OCing helps Sonic if your processor can do it...

July 28th, 2009, 00:44	#18
Laurensnl Wii have a PCii Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 115	Yeah, OCing is a good thing. Even when your cpu is fast enough. OCing is fun to do, takes some time, but the results are awesome! I OCed my Q6600 from 2.4 to 3.6, I bought a Z600 cooler. Temps are good and pc is 50% faster! If you really want to push it up high you should look for watercooling. With water cooling I could reach the 4 ghz eass! __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 3,6 ghz Point of View GeForce 8800GT 512 mb OCZ 4 gb RAM 1066 mhz Samsung SpinPoint F1 1000 gb Mobo: Asus P5K

July 28th, 2009, 01:38	#19
MisterMr Locked and Loaded. Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: United States Posts: 191	If you look at the CPU-Z validation database, some guy actually achieved 8.3 GHz off a Pentium 4. O_O

July 28th, 2009, 02:40	#20
kronoxrox Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Santiago (Chile) Posts: 346	tell him to run dolphin ASAP haaha __________________ -- I have the skills to make a good signature, but i'm just too lazy --