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Ahielia · July 21st, 2011, 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahielia

I don't like it when I try to run the GPU client and trying to do other stuff.

My computer lags really bad then, even if I'm only browsing the web through Opera.

So, this problem has sort of resolved itself, at least for a little while.

So I uninstalled both the SMP and GPU client and got a program called FAH GPU Tracker v2, handles up to 8 GPUs and the SMP. More for convenience than anything else.
At first when I installed it, I had the same slowdown as before, nothing new there.
I also tried running with just the SMP on, no slowdown at all, even with the CPU at 100%.
But I figured I'd try something out. A few weeks ago, a game (dunno which) kept buggering me about turning down settings because a game was under-performing, so I had it turn off Aero.
The lag with the FAH GPU client was still there, and I couldn't be arsed turning Aero back on again.
Anyhow, I turned it back on again. Turned on the GPU client just to check, and low and behold, the lag is gone! At least for 15 minutes it has been...
This without any other change whatsoever.

Anyone got a plausible explanation for this?

Linktothepast · July 21st, 2011, 23:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ahielia

So, this problem has sort of resolved itself, at least for a little while.

So I uninstalled both the SMP and GPU client and got a program called FAH GPU Tracker v2, handles up to 8 GPUs and the SMP. More for convenience than anything else.
At first when I installed it, I had the same slowdown as before, nothing new there.
I also tried running with just the SMP on, no slowdown at all, even with the CPU at 100%.
But I figured I'd try something out. A few weeks ago, a game (dunno which) kept buggering me about turning down settings because a game was under-performing, so I had it turn off Aero.
The lag with the FAH GPU client was still there, and I couldn't be arsed turning Aero back on again.
Anyhow, I turned it back on again. Turned on the GPU client just to check, and low and behold, the lag is gone! At least for 15 minutes it has been...
This without any other change whatsoever.

Anyone got a plausible explanation for this?

The gpu client unlike the cpu one doesn't have the same flexibility when sharing resources between apps, and at the folding home site they suggest to close it before running a game for example. Unless something drastically changes i don't think that there won't be any slowdown with the gpu client when running other apps that utilize the gpu at the same time.

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Ahielia · July 22nd, 2011, 00:47

So Aero is considered a "drastic change"?

My i7 920 (D0) churned out 1800 PPD (0->10%) on stock settings, time to see how much it increases at 3.6GHz. (1.275 vcore, 170 bckl)
My trusty old 275 GTX manages ~8.5k for now, not too shabby.

Last edited by Ahielia; July 22nd, 2011 at 01:13..

masta.g.86 · July 22nd, 2011, 02:10

The problem resides in either the FAH client or nVidia's CUDA drivers.

Running on ATI/AMD GPU while CPU folding. No slowdowns at all, even while gaming, unless the game needs a lot of VRAM.

On that note, maybe CUDA eats up a lot of VRAM while GPU folding.

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**n_w95482** · July 22nd, 2011, 03:38

Ahielia: I have no idea what would cause that, I haven't see that happen myself.

masta.g.86: I just checked my GTX 460, it seemed to only be using 43 MB of video memory while folding.

Out of the three cards that I have folding, only the Radeon 4650 in my work PC is somewhat sluggish while it's running, and it's somewhat intentional with that card. I have the FLUSH_INTERVAL environment variable set to 256 on it, even though it's a slow GPU. It maximizes throughput at the expense of usability. I used to only be able to run that at 64-96 with XP before it was unusable, whereas 256 on Win7 is just an annoyance. The CUDA/OpenCL cores don't need that kind of tweaking.

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**n_w95482** · September 22nd, 2011, 06:04

The 7.1.33 beta client came out two days ago. Along with the usual bug fixes there's some additional GPU whitelisting. Time for me to go fire up GPU folding alongside SMP on my Zacate HTPC. I'll squeeze every last drop out of that tiny chip

.

I've also noticed it seems to be calculating projected PPD correctly/with bonuses now (41k PPD for bigadv SMP on my 980X, instead of 5k).

Download

Changelog between 7.1.24 and 7.1.33:

Spoiler:

v7.1.25:

Hide 'Quit on window close' option in OSX.
Fixed some problems with WU assign time and time offset calculations.
Detect and ignore invalid assign time from older WS.
Log computed WS time offset.
Removed warning from Slot configuration about changing threads mid-run.
Catch and log error accessing battery info in /sys on Linux
Fix grayed out name and IP in client add after viewing local client. #640.
Remove 'RS480 PCI-X Root Port' from GPU whitelist. #635
Added a few new Radeon HD 6xxx cards.
Added Nvidia GTX 590 device ID 0x1088 to whitelist.
Increase Radeon HD 5xxxx and 6xxxx GPU type level by one. #653.
Don't fail WS connections if all data was recieved even on net error.
Print IP Address with 'Uploading' message.
Fixes for OSX minimize and quit bugs. #649 & #659.
Limit max CPUs per slot to system count. #652.
Attempt to fix #654.
Release system resources when querying OSX battery status. #650.
Don't send 'auth' command from FAHControl if empty. #658.
Fixed 'slot-add' NULL pointer exception. #666.
Fixed 'log-updates start' error. #671.
Fixed FAHClient script parsing bug. #676.
Show 'Remote Access' tab in advanced mode. #648.
Don't allow minimizing to sys-tray if it is not there. #670.
Also print core return code numbers in hex. #677.
Print times in ISO 8601 format. #664.
Expire WUs in sending status.

v7.1.26:

Correctly report client version to WS with WU return.
Failed upload attempt could cause WU to dump before it was expired. #679.
Added AMD Radeon HD 6600 Series to GPU white-list.
Fix failure to restart FAHControl in OSX when 'start minimized'. #649.
Fixed a socket bug that could cause the loss of the end of a message.
Build OSX client in 32-bit mode with Intel compiler.
Reduced socket send buffer size to 32KiB to try to solve #682.
Attempt to fix PCI detect crash in Windows. #695.
Whitelisted more GPUs.

v7.1.27:

Check shared info modification time in an attempt to fix #688.
More GPU whitelisting.
Fixed Windows PCI/GPU detection, broke in v7.1.26. #701.
Use WS UTC WU assign time in client wo/ computing offset #697, #681.
If running WU is dumped shutdown the core. #700.

v7.1.28:

Hopefully finally fixed the OSX on battery detection code.
More GPU whitelist changes.

v7.1.29:

Print UNSUPPORTED in front of unsupported GPUs in info.
Removed unsupported gpu-vendor-id and gpu-device-id options.
Allow auto-configuring both GPU and SMP. #629
Configure GPU & SMP by default in Windows.
Repaired OS description printing in info.
Use OS bits to determine 32 vs 64 rather than build bits. #703
Enabled GPU detection in OSX.
Removed 'gpu-id' and added 'cuda-index' and 'opencl-index' options.
GTX465 -> Fermi. #661
Automatically install themes in Windows installer.

v7.1.30:

Attempt to fix OSX PCI scan crash.

v7.1.31:

Another attempt to fix OSX PCI scan crash.

v7.1.32:

Added 'gpu-usage' option with default of 80%.
Added percent GPU usage slider in FAHControl.
Added 'opencl-index' and 'cuda-index' options to FAHControl.
'gpu-id' -> 'gpu-index' in FAHControl.

v7.1.33:

Set default 'gpu-usage' to 100%, until GPU cores implement better throttle.
Fixed client connection rate limiting.
Fixed error reporting for bad slot configuration. #582.
Attempt to fix EUE reporting for WSv4. #615.
Fixed "Wrong architecture" bug on 32-bit Ubunut. #599.
Dropped "64-bit" Windows release. Use 32-bit on all systems.

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**Hard core Rikki** · January 29th, 2012, 01:23

Ranking 303 now

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Squall-Lionh@rt · December 3rd, 2012, 01:22

ranking has slipped a bit fella's

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · December 3rd, 2012, 01:35

Meh, I haven't folded in forever. I'm playing more games and need my GPU more these days plus despite the WUs being pretty small in the grand scheme of things they were placing a strain on my internet cap. So basically I'm out.

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Lasnap · December 3rd, 2012, 03:46

I have started back up now that I have my GTS250 working again in a pc that can handle it.

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Ahielia · December 3rd, 2012, 10:24

I had totally forgotten about this.
Will start folding again when I have my desktop up and running, until then I'll just have to stay at nr 4

Samor · December 3rd, 2012, 12:24

I kind of forgot about this too. slipped all the way to 16th, I see

Lasnap · December 3rd, 2012, 13:00

I am still at number 7th lol

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Squall-Lionh@rt · December 3rd, 2012, 22:42

Ahielia · December 3rd, 2012, 23:22

Are you the only one folding?

DarkSamus · December 3rd, 2012, 23:25

I'm not even on Squall's chart

I actually stopped folding due to concerns with extra Power consumption plus the wear and tear it would be doing to my GPU.

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Squall-Lionh@rt · December 4th, 2012, 01:43

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Lasnap · December 4th, 2012, 10:50

I am not even on his list either and I am in the top 10 at number 7 of the group

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DarkSamus · December 4th, 2012, 11:07

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Originally Posted by Squall-Lionh@rt

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Squall-Lionh@rt · December 4th, 2012, 13:27

September 22nd, 2011, 06:04	#826
n_w95482 Gone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,336	The 7.1.33 beta client came out two days ago. Along with the usual bug fixes there's some additional GPU whitelisting. Time for me to go fire up GPU folding alongside SMP on my Zacate HTPC. I'll squeeze every last drop out of that tiny chip . I've also noticed it seems to be calculating projected PPD correctly/with bonuses now (41k PPD for bigadv SMP on my 980X, instead of 5k). Download Changelog between 7.1.24 and 7.1.33: Spoiler: v7.1.25: Hide 'Quit on window close' option in OSX. Fixed some problems with WU assign time and time offset calculations. Detect and ignore invalid assign time from older WS. Log computed WS time offset. Removed warning from Slot configuration about changing threads mid-run. Catch and log error accessing battery info in /sys on Linux Fix grayed out name and IP in client add after viewing local client. #640. Remove 'RS480 PCI-X Root Port' from GPU whitelist. #635 Added a few new Radeon HD 6xxx cards. Added Nvidia GTX 590 device ID 0x1088 to whitelist. Increase Radeon HD 5xxxx and 6xxxx GPU type level by one. #653. Don't fail WS connections if all data was recieved even on net error. Print IP Address with 'Uploading' message. Fixes for OSX minimize and quit bugs. #649 & #659. Limit max CPUs per slot to system count. #652. Attempt to fix #654. Release system resources when querying OSX battery status. #650. Don't send 'auth' command from FAHControl if empty. #658. Fixed 'slot-add' NULL pointer exception. #666. Fixed 'log-updates start' error. #671. Fixed FAHClient script parsing bug. #676. Show 'Remote Access' tab in advanced mode. #648. Don't allow minimizing to sys-tray if it is not there. #670. Also print core return code numbers in hex. #677. Print times in ISO 8601 format. #664. Expire WUs in sending status. v7.1.26: Correctly report client version to WS with WU return. Failed upload attempt could cause WU to dump before it was expired. #679. Added AMD Radeon HD 6600 Series to GPU white-list. Fix failure to restart FAHControl in OSX when 'start minimized'. #649. Fixed a socket bug that could cause the loss of the end of a message. Build OSX client in 32-bit mode with Intel compiler. Reduced socket send buffer size to 32KiB to try to solve #682. Attempt to fix PCI detect crash in Windows. #695. Whitelisted more GPUs. v7.1.27: Check shared info modification time in an attempt to fix #688. More GPU whitelisting. Fixed Windows PCI/GPU detection, broke in v7.1.26. #701. Use WS UTC WU assign time in client wo/ computing offset #697, #681. If running WU is dumped shutdown the core. #700. v7.1.28: Hopefully finally fixed the OSX on battery detection code. More GPU whitelist changes. v7.1.29: Print UNSUPPORTED in front of unsupported GPUs in info. Removed unsupported gpu-vendor-id and gpu-device-id options. Allow auto-configuring both GPU and SMP. #629 Configure GPU & SMP by default in Windows. Repaired OS description printing in info. Use OS bits to determine 32 vs 64 rather than build bits. #703 Enabled GPU detection in OSX. Removed 'gpu-id' and added 'cuda-index' and 'opencl-index' options. GTX465 -> Fermi. #661 Automatically install themes in Windows installer. v7.1.30: Attempt to fix OSX PCI scan crash. v7.1.31: Another attempt to fix OSX PCI scan crash. v7.1.32: Added 'gpu-usage' option with default of 80%. Added percent GPU usage slider in FAHControl. Added 'opencl-index' and 'cuda-index' options to FAHControl. 'gpu-id' -> 'gpu-index' in FAHControl. v7.1.33: Set default 'gpu-usage' to 100%, until GPU cores implement better throttle. Fixed client connection rate limiting. Fixed error reporting for bad slot configuration. #582. Attempt to fix EUE reporting for WSv4. #615. Fixed "Wrong architecture" bug on 32-bit Ubunut. #599. Dropped "64-bit" Windows release. Use 32-bit on all systems. __________________ Later.

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July 22nd, 2011, 00:47	#823
Ahielia I'm sexy and I know it! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VIKINGLAND! Posts: 4,383	So Aero is considered a "drastic change"? My i7 920 (D0) churned out 1800 PPD (0->10%) on stock settings, time to see how much it increases at 3.6GHz. (1.275 vcore, 170 bckl) My trusty old 275 GTX manages ~8.5k for now, not too shabby. Last edited by Ahielia; July 22nd, 2011 at 01:13..

July 22nd, 2011, 03:38	#825
n_w95482 Gone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,336	Ahielia: I have no idea what would cause that, I haven't see that happen myself. masta.g.86: I just checked my GTX 460, it seemed to only be using 43 MB of video memory while folding. Out of the three cards that I have folding, only the Radeon 4650 in my work PC is somewhat sluggish while it's running, and it's somewhat intentional with that card. I have the FLUSH_INTERVAL environment variable set to 256 on it, even though it's a slow GPU. It maximizes throughput at the expense of usability. I used to only be able to run that at 64-96 with XP before it was unusable, whereas 256 on Win7 is just an annoyance. The CUDA/OpenCL cores don't need that kind of tweaking. __________________ Later.

January 29th, 2012, 01:23	#827
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December 3rd, 2012, 01:22	#828
Squall-Lionh@rt Maybe I'm a Lion Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2,475	ranking has slipped a bit fella's

December 3rd, 2012, 01:35	#829
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,422	Meh, I haven't folded in forever. I'm playing more games and need my GPU more these days plus despite the WUs being pretty small in the grand scheme of things they were placing a strain on my internet cap. So basically I'm out. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

December 3rd, 2012, 03:46	#830
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,875	I have started back up now that I have my GTS250 working again in a pc that can handle it. __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

December 3rd, 2012, 10:24	#831
Ahielia I'm sexy and I know it! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VIKINGLAND! Posts: 4,383	I had totally forgotten about this. Will start folding again when I have my desktop up and running, until then I'll just have to stay at nr 4

December 3rd, 2012, 12:24	#832
Samor crill stazy Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NL Posts: 7,609	I kind of forgot about this too. slipped all the way to 16th, I see

December 3rd, 2012, 13:00	#833
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,875	I am still at number 7th lol __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

December 3rd, 2012, 22:42	#834
Squall-Lionh@rt Maybe I'm a Lion Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2,475

December 3rd, 2012, 23:22	#835
Ahielia I'm sexy and I know it! Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: VIKINGLAND! Posts: 4,383	Are you the only one folding?

December 3rd, 2012, 23:25	#836
DarkSamus PC game modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: Mail You Dummy _______________________ Posts: 5,904	I'm not even on Squall's chart I actually stopped folding due to concerns with extra Power consumption plus the wear and tear it would be doing to my GPU. __________________ Do you play PC RE5, RE6 or SSF4AE but hate that the button mappings uses XBOX360 buttons? Try my Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6 or Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Playstation button mods! As far as handhelds go, well, I get the Nintendo one. Because I'm not an idiot.

December 4th, 2012, 01:43	#837
Squall-Lionh@rt Maybe I'm a Lion Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 2,475	Last edited by Squall-Lionh@rt; December 4th, 2012 at 04:30..

December 4th, 2012, 10:50	#838
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,875	I am not even on his list either and I am in the top 10 at number 7 of the group __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!

December 4th, 2012, 13:27	#840
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