Emuforums.com

Go Back   Emuforums.com > PS2 Emulation > PCSX2 Forum
Home Register Downloads FAQ Members List Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read

WON'T YOU JOIN US?
You are not a registered member and
are viewing this site as a guest.
Registration is simple and FREE.
Join this CrowdGather community today.
Registration offers the following perks:

» Less advertising throughout
» Post and participate in discussions
» Network with other forum members
» Free private messaging

join

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old August 8th, 2008, 20:54   #1
aaabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: hungary
Posts: 13
Ati 4850 or Nvidia 8800\9600GT?

which of them better for use Pcsx2 in good speed?
(On e8400 cpu)
aaabb is offline  

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]
Old August 8th, 2008, 21:06   #2
John_E
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spain
Posts: 28

Taking that into consideration, HD4850 all the way, plus it's even cheaper.
If you got enough money, a HD4870 would be the best choice, but idk whats the behavior of those under the PCSX2 plugins, anyone?
John_E is offline  
Old August 8th, 2008, 21:38   #3
RPGW1ZaRD
PCSX2 & O/C Addict
 
RPGW1ZaRD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: My Computer
Posts: 2,841
PC game usage wise HD4850 would be the obvious choice but for PSCX2 I don't know really seeing how many people have reported performance issues with the GSdx plugin with HD4xxx cards, dunno if the problem has gotten solved or not though.
__________________

« Feel free to browse through PCSX2 screenshots on RPGWiZaRD's Putfile.com section »

Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 @ 4.0GHz «-» Gigabyte P35-DS4 «-» CellShock 2x1GB @ DDR2-1200 5-5-4-10 «-» JetWay 8800GT 512 MB @ 705/1750/1015 MHz «-» Thermaltake ToughPower 750W «-» Sony Multiscan G400 19" CRT «-» OCZ Vendetta 2 «-» Creative SoundBlaster Audigy «-» Logitech X-530 5.1 «-» Sennheiser HD 212 Pro «-» Logitech MX™518 Gaming-Grade «-» Razer Mantis Speed «-» Windows XP Pro SP3 «-» Windows Server 2k8 XSOS 3.0 BETA
RPGW1ZaRD is offline  
Old August 8th, 2008, 22:10   #4
Noja87
Unlimited...
 
Noja87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Vials!
Posts: 6,389
What the...does SLI really doubles the 8800 GT performance? i thought Sli was a waste of time and money =|
__________________


Noja87 is offline  
Old August 8th, 2008, 22:12   #5
aaabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: hungary
Posts: 13
ok so who know whice better?
aaabb is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 00:27   #6
ryllian
$2 per holla
 
ryllian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: idk
Posts: 457
Quote:
What the...does SLI really doubles the 8800 GT performance? i thought Sli was a waste of time and money =|
That was back when SLI just came out, drivers, chipsets and other stuff have improved i guess.

Quote:
ok so who know whice better?
4850 is better, but not for PCSX2. However, 8800gt is cheaper by like 40$ here, and it runs PC games fine as well (i never really bothered about maxing out fps in PC games as long as its a solid 40ish, can't really tell the difference after 50fps if you ask me). Its up to your budget i guess, and whether you plan to be playing pc games or pcsx more.
ryllian is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 01:04   #7
John_E
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Spain
Posts: 28
Well, that's right, the chooce most depend on the mix of games you're gonna play.
If you mind playing PC games and PCSX2, i'd suggest you to go with the HD4850, it should perform 40% faster in PC games (COD4,GRiD, etc), but really i dont know how it works in the PCSX2.
Anyways, it's up to AMD to release better drivers for the HD4850, wich could fix a probably poor perfomance in this program (?), indeed, there are just 1 official driver for the ATI's new series of GPUs.

In few words: HD4850
John_E is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 04:33   #8
Bubbafat
Mhm.
 
Bubbafat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Mass.
Posts: 2,131
Yeah the 48xx series looks smokin. Is slightly dissapointing no pcsx2 though.

Maybe sony is working with Ati/amd to rule out pcsx2
__________________
Bubbafat is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 04:53   #9
Chaos_Blader
Registered User
 
Chaos_Blader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 296
4850, but if you have some cash and time I would wait for 4870X2

Quote:
What the...does SLI really doubles the 8800 GT performance? i thought Sli was a waste of time and money =|
The game takes advantage of Dual GPUs = faster performance. The 9800GX2 is at the top with 100fps but for most other games it would be average.
__________________
µGame :: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI :: Intel e8400 @ 3.8Ghz :: eVGA 8800 GTX @ Stock :: OCZ 2 x 2GB DDR2 :: Windows Vista Ultimate x64
Chaos_Blader is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 05:45   #10
NexXxus
it'se miku!
 
NexXxus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Cologne, Germany
Posts: 3,609
Quote:
Originally Posted by Noja87 View Post
What the...does SLI really doubles the 8800 GT performance? i thought Sli was a waste of time and money =|
yes it increase performance in SLI optimized games and programs,
GSdx is not SLI optimized, so no improvement.
NexXxus is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 10:35   #11
aaabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: hungary
Posts: 13
9800gtx + will be better?
cause its cost more 20 $ and its seems better then the 4850 even for pc games(more colder)
aaabb is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 10:40   #12
Tsuska
Pulse
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 235
Well...i as said many times b4, i dunno if they've fixed the problem with AMD cards yet with the new drivers....

But from experience Nvidia works better for pcsx2. I'd recommend the 9600GT over 8800GT at the moment but...as u can see i only have a weak/old 8600gts....so umm yea...

Prices will depends on where u buy it. Like shady asian shop, internet/ebay or david jones...lol
__________________
My Desktop PC:
Intel Core2Duo e6850 @ 3.00GHz | 256MB Gigabyte GeForce 8600GTS | 2x2GB Apacer RAM @ 800MHz | Asus P5K-E/WIFI-AP


My Laptop PC:
Coming Soon

Sig Coming soon: 500x130 and 25K, I'm still very new at Computer Graphics, so I'm trying to transfer my drawings onto the computer.
Tsuska is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 10:47   #13
aaabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: hungary
Posts: 13
maybe ill see no change in 9600/8800 gt against 4850 on pc games like crysis ...
i have a 19 CRT monitor so dont know which to choose
aaabb is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 16:15   #14
gravaman
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: argentina
Posts: 7
I would go for the Radeon HD4850 its better than the GeForce 9800GTX+ in almost all benchmarks.
I recently bought a 4850 so im going to test it with the latest PCSX2 and post my results.
gravaman is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 16:38   #15
tiki
yea sioux sioux
 
tiki's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: North Dakota
Posts: 161
Get a new monitor before your video card.

Newegg.com - Acer AL2216Wbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP support 300 cd/m2 700:1 - LCD Monitors

or if you have more money

Newegg.com - SAMSUNG 2253BW Black 22" 2ms(GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor with HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 DC 8000:1 - LCD Monitors

It'll feel like you have a different computer
__________________
Sold my desktop, still have my macbook though!
tiki is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 16:39   #16
aaabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: hungary
Posts: 13
dident see your message ,but in a regular screen,mag 19 " crt
the 4850 will look best like on lcd?
cause i prefere to buy Xbox 360 and connect it to the lcd if ill need to change my screen to lcd

Last edited by aaabb; August 9th, 2008 at 17:16..
aaabb is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 21:09   #17
Chaos_Blader
Registered User
 
Chaos_Blader's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Boston
Posts: 296
Quote:
Originally Posted by tiki View Post
Get a new monitor before your video card.
That doesn't make much sense. What if he can't afford the card after the monitor.

Enjoy gaming at 800x600, on a 22"
__________________
µGame :: ASUS P5E-VM HDMI :: Intel e8400 @ 3.8Ghz :: eVGA 8800 GTX @ Stock :: OCZ 2 x 2GB DDR2 :: Windows Vista Ultimate x64
Chaos_Blader is offline  
Old August 9th, 2008, 23:41   #18
Metherlance
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 106
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaos_Blader View Post
That doesn't make much sense. What if he can't afford the card after the monitor.

Enjoy gaming at 800x600, on a 22"
Monitor technology doesn't change much, and GPU tech does. If you buy a $300 card now and then wait 6 months to buy a $200 monitor, thats $500. If you buy the $200 monitor now, the same GPU would cost $120, thats $320. Monitor prices don't change all that much and a good monitor will last you 5 years, where a good GPU will last you 1, maybe 2 if you don't mind crappy graphics near the end of it's life.
That's why it makes sense to buy it that way.
Metherlance is offline  
Old August 10th, 2008, 00:13   #19
ryllian
$2 per holla
 
ryllian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: idk
Posts: 457
Quote:
Monitor technology doesn't change much, and GPU tech does. If you buy a $300 card now and then wait 6 months to buy a $200 monitor, thats $500. If you buy the $200 monitor now, the same GPU would cost $120, thats $320. Monitor prices don't change all that much and a good monitor will last you 5 years, where a good GPU will last you 1, maybe 2 if you don't mind crappy graphics near the end of it's life.
That's why it makes sense to buy it that way.
So basically your assuming that the basic rule of supply and demand only applies to monitors? a 500$ 22" monitor a year ago costs about 300$ now, its the same concept, if people buy lots of it, the prices drop. Thats why workstation graphics cards still cost 1,800$ a piece compared to perhaps 700$ for a high end gaming card with higher specs (yes i know workstation graphics have more support for OpenGL and whatnot, but thats hardly gonna cost the extra 1000$ or so), because there is more demand for the latter. Monitor prices simply drop a bit slower, since people replace graphics cards more often than monitors.

What would he do with a nice monitor now anyways? play solitaire at 800x600 and wait half a year for the price to drop? He could just buy a decent card now for 200$ and wait for a xmas sale to pick up a nice cheap 20" monitor for 100$.

Btw, at least have the sense to read up some info before you pull crap out of nowhere; The average PCI-E card has a life expectancy of 10 years, and a 4850 or 8800gt will play all new releases on at least medium setting for at least the next year or 2 (as of 2008, i have yet to find a game that my GT struggles with on High settings). Actually, I even have an ancient (from 2003) geforce 4 mx440 64bit AGP card, and it still runs fine, hell, it can even play half life 2 on medium settings. Sure i can't cluster***** noobs on crysis with that card, but its still solid and reliable for a card that hails from the old days when GPUs had only a tiny lil heatsink strapped onto them for cooling.
ryllian is offline  
Old August 10th, 2008, 09:11   #20
aaabb
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: hungary
Posts: 13
so it looks like 9600 gt will be enough for me a lot cheaper and ill stay with the crt.
it can run crysis on high?
aaabb is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 00:45.

© 2006 - 2012 Emu Forums | About Emu Forums | Advertisers | Investors | Legal | A member of the Crowdgather Forum Community


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.