Is there a new NullPVR plugin or something?

sofakng · June 23rd, 2008, 14:10

I just started using NullDC and it's amazing but I saw something about a new NullPVR v2 plugin but I can't seem to find it.

Are there better/alternative plugins to use with NullDC besides the ones that come with 1.0.0 beta 6?

karas81 · June 23rd, 2008, 15:58

There you go, just extract/copy to your nullDC folder.
Then go to select plugins, and select it.
NOTE : its always preferable that you keep the old one, I did it for you

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SnoochyBoochies · June 23rd, 2008, 16:50

Thanks for the plugin!

vasiliman22 · June 23rd, 2008, 17:15

where could i see the plugins for nulldc?

karas81 · June 23rd, 2008, 17:48

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sofakng · June 23rd, 2008, 17:50

It looks like you're using the Chankast AICA plugin.

Is it better than the one that comes with NullDC?

karas81 · June 23rd, 2008, 17:53

, well both of'em came with nullDC if you didn't got the news yet

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To answer your question : NO, its a matter of trying every possible setting combination with each game to figure out which one is the best with my system.

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NJ7 · June 23rd, 2008, 23:46

Mint....Sonic Adventure 2, the graphic bugs that made it unplayable are fixed on my integrated graphics.....now if the sound would be fixed....buggy using the nullAICA plugin.....is there an updated version of this plugin out there by chance?

PsyMan · June 24th, 2008, 00:15

Nope.

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InuYasha1988 · June 25th, 2008, 03:06

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Originally Posted by NJ7

Mint....Sonic Adventure 2, the graphic bugs that made it unplayable are fixed on my integrated graphics.....now if the sound would be fixed....buggy using the nullAICA plugin.....is there an updated version of this plugin out there by chance?

Can you please send me that plugin? xD

Devil Master · June 25th, 2008, 10:35

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Originally Posted by InuYasha1988

Can you please send me that plugin? xD

Why? You can download it from the second message of this thread.
Or from this page, for all that matters.

vasiliman22 · June 25th, 2008, 11:49

hmm what do you recommend on the sound plug in of null dc?

Imasexyman62 · July 9th, 2008, 04:47

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Originally Posted by hanibal81

There you go, just extract/copy to your nullDC folder.
Then go to select plugins, and select it.
NOTE : its always preferable that you keep the old one, I did it for you

KyJelly · July 10th, 2008, 21:40

is there any proof that this "new" plug-in does anything different other than steroscopy? please site examples and maybe some screen caps.

thnks

**drkIIRaziel** · July 11th, 2008, 01:08

It uses proper W valutes and different perspective correction.Also the way the Z values are compressed is different.It may make some games look better (and some other worse) but apart from that its prety much the same as the released version.

legend100 · July 11th, 2008, 03:56

Daytona 2001 is unplayable with the new one though. So keep that in mind .

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KyJelly · July 11th, 2008, 11:15

i've noticed in soul calibur that the names on the character select screen are invisible and when beating the game the captions are messed up.

PsyMan · July 11th, 2008, 14:47

Well yeah... The truth is that there is no way to get all those "errors" fixed except from getting a DirectX 10 capable card. A workaround that fixes a game will most certainly break another one (Daytona 2001 and Soul Calibur are 2 of those broken games in this case). This is also the case for all Dreamcast emulators and GFX plugins up until now and it happens because of hardware/driver limitations.

Whatever the developer does there is no way to get graphics with proper depth if you use a video card with 24 bit Z-Buffer or a video card with 16 bit Z-Buffer. On the other hand, if your video card has a 32bit or even a 64bit(!) Z-Buffer and the developer uses that then yeah, everything will hopefully look right with no scissoring or other errors (like missing or invisible stuff). The problem is that only DirectX 10 cards (and Neon 250 which is a very special case) support 32 bit Z-Buffer so unless you have something like a GeForce 9600 or ATi 3600 you're out of luck.

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**shashClp** · July 11th, 2008, 15:58

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Originally Posted by PsyMan

Whatever the developer does there is no way to get graphics with proper depth if you use a video card with 24 bit Z-Buffer or a video card with 16 bit Z-Buffer. On the other hand, if your video card has a 32bit or even a 64bit(!) Z-Buffer and the developer uses that then yeah, everything will hopefully look right with no scissoring or other errors (like missing or invisible stuff). The problem is that only DirectX 10 cards (and Neon 250 which is a very special case) support 32 bit Z-Buffer so unless you have something like a GeForce 9600 or ATi 3600 you're out of luck.

May I ask why using MRT and blitting a proper 32bit depth to one of the buffers isn't an alternative? That doesn't require a GF 9600, is doable from the Geforce series 6XXX with hell a lot of speed (atleast with openGL), and it's one evening to get implemented.

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**drkIIRaziel** · July 12th, 2008, 06:54

You cant do read-modify-write operations on MRT, you can only write to em.You are wellcome to try if you want ;p

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sofakng Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 19	Is there a new NullPVR plugin or something? I just started using NullDC and it's amazing but I saw something about a new NullPVR v2 plugin but I can't seem to find it. Are there better/alternative plugins to use with NullDC besides the ones that come with 1.0.0 beta 6?

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June 23rd, 2008, 16:50	#3
SnoochyBoochies Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South London UK Posts: 13	Thanks for the plugin!

June 23rd, 2008, 17:15	#4
vasiliman22 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: ?????? Posts: 10	where could i see the plugins for nulldc?

June 23rd, 2008, 17:50	#6
sofakng Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 19	It looks like you're using the Chankast AICA plugin. Is it better than the one that comes with NullDC?

June 23rd, 2008, 17:53	#7
karas81 .:Enigmatic Protagonist:. Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TOKYO Posts: 2,283	, well both of'em came with nullDC if you didn't got the news yet . To answer your question : NO, its a matter of trying every possible setting combination with each game to figure out which one is the best with my system. __________________ "I've had enough, there's no hope left for this pathetic clan." "Growth occurs when one goes beyond one's limits. Realizing that is also part of training."

June 23rd, 2008, 23:46	#8
NJ7 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17	Mint....Sonic Adventure 2, the graphic bugs that made it unplayable are fixed on my integrated graphics.....now if the sound would be fixed....buggy using the nullAICA plugin.....is there an updated version of this plugin out there by chance?

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PsyMan Bannҽd Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where banned people go Posts: 2,156	Nope. __________________ I'm not insane. YOU are insane... You are all insane! Click Here to Visit my Blog Page

June 25th, 2008, 11:49	#12
vasiliman22 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: ?????? Posts: 10	hmm what do you recommend on the sound plug in of null dc?

July 10th, 2008, 21:40	#14
KyJelly Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	is there any proof that this "new" plug-in does anything different other than steroscopy? please site examples and maybe some screen caps. thnks

July 11th, 2008, 01:08	#15
drkIIRaziel Emu author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 584	It uses proper W valutes and different perspective correction.Also the way the Z values are compressed is different.It may make some games look better (and some other worse) but apart from that its prety much the same as the released version.

July 11th, 2008, 03:56	#16
legend100 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 274	Daytona 2001 is unplayable with the new one though. So keep that in mind . __________________ Intel Duo Core E8400 @ 3.6 ghz. / Asus P5QL-E / 2 Gig Ram / GeForce 8800GT 512mb PCI-e / Creative Audigy 2 / Win XP Pro SP3 / X360 controllers

July 11th, 2008, 11:15	#17
KyJelly Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 94	i've noticed in soul calibur that the names on the character select screen are invisible and when beating the game the captions are messed up.

July 11th, 2008, 14:47	#18
PsyMan Bannҽd Join Date: May 2004 Location: Where banned people go Posts: 2,156	Well yeah... The truth is that there is no way to get all those "errors" fixed except from getting a DirectX 10 capable card. A workaround that fixes a game will most certainly break another one (Daytona 2001 and Soul Calibur are 2 of those broken games in this case). This is also the case for all Dreamcast emulators and GFX plugins up until now and it happens because of hardware/driver limitations. Whatever the developer does there is no way to get graphics with proper depth if you use a video card with 24 bit Z-Buffer or a video card with 16 bit Z-Buffer. On the other hand, if your video card has a 32bit or even a 64bit(!) Z-Buffer and the developer uses that then yeah, everything will hopefully look right with no scissoring or other errors (like missing or invisible stuff). The problem is that only DirectX 10 cards (and Neon 250 which is a very special case) support 32 bit Z-Buffer so unless you have something like a GeForce 9600 or ATi 3600 you're out of luck. __________________ I'm not insane. YOU are insane... You are all insane! Click Here to Visit my Blog Page

July 12th, 2008, 06:54	#20
drkIIRaziel Emu author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 584	You cant do read-modify-write operations on MRT, you can only write to em.You are wellcome to try if you want ;p Last edited by drkIIRaziel; July 12th, 2008 at 07:00..