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Old June 20th, 2008, 17:00   #1
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Question 3.7GHz vs 4.0GHz....

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a friend of mine want to upgrade his system with a core2duo and when he saw the performance of PCSX2 he wanna taste it.

I'm using an e8200 fully stable at 3.7GHz, but he ask me how much performance he'll gain if he buy an e8400 and pump it to 4.0GHz on PCSX2 FPS???

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Old June 20th, 2008, 17:25   #2
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about the same as yours, maybe 5-10fps faster. If hes lucky
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Old June 20th, 2008, 18:04   #3
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it's running perfect for me with my E2160 @2.4Ghz
i get max fps at all games.. using sse3 plugin
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Old June 20th, 2008, 18:18   #4
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sure......let me guess disgaea 1 and 2?

i got x2 @ 2.6 and don't run more than 20% of my games really stable at 50 fps+

what plugin are you talking about?


// and arc@no tell your friend to get an e8500 or even better an e8600 u'll easily get 4.5Ghz with the 8500 and with the e8600 probably even more
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Old June 20th, 2008, 20:18   #5
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it's running perfect for me with my E2160 @2.4Ghz
i get max fps at all games.. using sse3 plugin
Linger... not all, maybe almost all games, all games' mine, all games that I've tried...
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Old June 20th, 2008, 21:42   #6
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about the same as yours, maybe 5-10fps faster. If hes lucky
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Old June 20th, 2008, 21:43   #7
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it's running perfect for me with my E2160 @2.4Ghz
i get max fps at all games.. using sse3 plugin
even FFX PAL does run properly with fullspeed on all places @2.6ghz.
graphic intensive places like mihen highroad were ~40fps or below BEFORE gabest did some optimisations on GSdx.
now its about ~52-55
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Linger... not all, maybe almost all games, all games' mine, all games that I've tried...
Yep, I can't play Grandia III at that speed with my e4300 or even with my past X2@2.9GHz.

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sure......let me guess disgaea 1 and 2?

i got x2 @ 2.6 and don't run more than 20% of my games really stable at 50 fps+

what plugin are you talking about?


// and arc@no tell your friend to get an e8500 or even better an e8600 u'll easily get 4.5Ghz with the 8500 and with the e8600 probably even more
mmmm, but the price raises a LOT with the e8500 (still did't heard of the e8600) and buy that model here must be a pain, only a couple of stores maybe sell them (or at least stores that I'm aware of). I think the e8400 will suite him very well without ripping his wallet.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 22:34   #9
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PCSX2 performance scales linearly with overclocked CPU amount if GPU bottleneck doesn't start kicking in. It would be around 8.1% faster 4GHz vs 3.7GHz, so 45 FPS would become around 49 FPS for example or 30 FPS would become 32 ~ 33 FPS etc.
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PCSX2 performance scales linearly with overclocked CPU amount if GPU bottleneck doesn't start kicking in. It would be around 8.1% faster 4GHz vs 3.7GHz, so 45 FPS would become around 49 FPS for example or 30 FPS would become 32 ~ 33 FPS etc.
very clear explanation, thanx.
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I have a Laptop Asus X55sv with a GeForce 9500M GS and a T8100 (core2duo 2x2.1 Ghz). I can play every game that i have on maximum speed using GSDX 1.8 SSE4 DX10 - Resolution 1280:800 ^^. So i think 2Ghz is enough for PCSX2 ^^

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I got Core Duo E4300 1,8Ghz @ 3,24GHz and i get nearly all games fullspeed.
I uploaded pictures in the Screenshot Section, there you can see it.
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3.2GHz yes, 2GHz i don't think so!
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I have a Laptop Asus X55sv with a GeForce 9500M GS and a T8100 (core2duo 2x2.1 Ghz). I can play every game that i have on maximum speed using GSDX 1.8 SSE4 DX10 - Resolution 1280:800 ^^. So i think 2Ghz is enough for PCSX2 ^^
Yeah, 2ghz is enough for you and your games, but there are many games which do not reach full speed. So stop making generalizations
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sure......let me guess disgaea 1 and 2?

i got x2 @ 2.6 and don't run more than 20% of my games really stable at 50 fps+

what plugin are you talking about?


// and arc@no tell your friend to get an e8500 or even better an e8600 u'll easily get 4.5Ghz with the 8500 and with the e8600 probably even more
well i've gotta tell ya..
my games runs all perfect with 50+ fps.

my Specs are:

C2D E2160 @2,4Ghz
Graphics card: XFX 8600GT XXX edition 750/910/1650
OS: Windows Vista ultimate
and 2GB ram from OCZ

i run all games easily..
havent tried the newest FF serie tho.
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Old June 21st, 2008, 12:03   #16
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Do you not get what they mean? Even systems at 4GHZ some games will not run full speed, it's an emulation issue, not a matter of Hardware!

By luck the games you've wanted to run are emulated properly and whatnot, it is not correct to say because two or three games run full speed that every other PS2 game will, it's like saying if your comp can run Crysis, it can run anything. It's a broad generalization and not true.
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well i've gotta tell ya..
my games runs all perfect with 50+ fps.

my Specs are:

C2D E2160 @2,4Ghz
Graphics card: XFX 8600GT XXX edition 750/910/1650
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and 2GB ram from OCZ

i run all games easily..
havent tried the newest FF serie tho.
what games have you tried?
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Do you not get what they mean? Even systems at 4GHZ some games will not run full speed, it's an emulation issue, not a matter of Hardware!

By luck the games you've wanted to run are emulated properly and whatnot, it is not correct to say because two or three games run full speed that every other PS2 game will, it's like saying if your comp can run Crysis, it can run anything. It's a broad generalization and not true.
It's true, games like Grandia III requires a 3GHz+ to run at full speed and Grandia Xtreme even at 4GHz the game runs in some "normal" areas at 30 FPS.
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Hi.
I'm using an e8200 fully stable at 3.7GHz, but he ask me how much performance he'll gain if he buy an e8400 and pump it to 4.0GHz on PCSX2 FPS???
You can't, amount of overclocking depends on each CPU, for example my CPU will not get over 3GHz even when it's E4500. Quite a lot of E2200 could be overclocked more.

When he buys an E8400 amount of overclocking depends on his piece, not on type number. It also depends on cooler and environment. Thought even excelent 45 nm pieces had problems to go over 4 GHz. I seen one at 4.2 stable with water cooler (with somehow outrageous voltage, not something that could do common user.
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To put it simply, all games require different amount of processing power. Yes, your average 2.2Ghz Core 2 Duo might suffice for most games like Disgaea and FFX, but for games like Grandia III, you're going to need something beefier.
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