N2O does not load anymore

legend100 · May 26th, 2008, 09:02

Whenever N20 tries to load its main menu, it says the disc is dirty and to clean it. Well, its an ISO and with default plugins, I've tried the "Run ISO" command and mounting it and selecting "Run CD", but still nothing. It always stops midload with that error message. This appears to be a bug with 1.7 because if I drop the 1.6 exe in the folder and try that one, game loads fine everytime. Is there anything else that can be causing this or is this just a regression from 1.6?

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**jonc2006** · May 26th, 2008, 09:30

have you tried playing from the disc?

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legend100 · May 26th, 2008, 09:37

No, because they should be no reason I need to - I have a perfectly fine ISO of the game that I've been playing for years. 1.7 can't read the ISO I made from it mounted, so the disc wouldn't be much different.

Why has 1.6 played it fine for years? Why would it say the disc is dirty? Can someone verify please? We've norrowed it down to the exe, so sound like a regression to me.

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PowerslaveLA · May 26th, 2008, 09:45

Whens the last time you looked at your disc? it might really be dirty :P (sorry i needed a chuckle).

**jonc2006** · May 26th, 2008, 09:58

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Originally Posted by legend100

No, because they should be no reason I need to - I have a perfectly fine ISO of the game that I've been playing for years. 1.7 can't read the ISO I made from it mounted, so the disc wouldn't be much different.

Why has 1.6 played it fine for years? Why would it say the disc is dirty? Can someone verify please? We've norrowed it down to the exe, so sound like a regression to me.

the reason im asking is because there was a real overhaul on the ISO feature that 1.7.0. uses. what im looking to find out here is if BOTH methods are not working. just because you mount an image on daemon tools and find out it doesnt work in no way means that playing directly from the disc will produce the same result. there are many factors that play into this and i dont feel like going through them all but if you can simply test the disc it will allow me to rule some things out.

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legend100 · May 26th, 2008, 23:11

Oh, I thought you were just wanting me to use the CD. Since you were just troubleshooting for me I gave it a try. Sure enough, no boot also. So it appears to have nothing to do with the drastic changes to the ISO system. This game just doesn't load properly anymore. Smeg!!

Might want to move to the "game compatablity" section...unless anyone can get this to work?

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**jonc2006** · May 26th, 2008, 23:17

is this the only game you have tried so far on 1.7.0? btw dumb question but what is N20 anyway? i dont recognize the name. and have you tried using plugins other than the default ones?

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legend100 · May 26th, 2008, 23:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonc2006

is this the only game you have tried so far on 1.7.0?

No, all others are fine.

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btw dumb question but what is N20 anyway?

Like a more physcedilic version of Nanotek Warrior. Its pretty freaking fun! Not a big name though. IGN: N2O: Nitrous Oxide Review ...got an 8!!

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i dont recognize the name. and have you tried using plugins other than the default ones?

I have:
CDR = Virus plugin, Mooby, "Run ISO" command, Internal CDR plugin with a mounted image and the pysical CD
SPU = Internal and Eternal
GPU = Pete's software and opengl plugins

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legend100 · May 27th, 2008, 00:09

Here's a picture of where it gets stuck.

Seem to have something to do with the music. If i disable sound, it stops at a different point with no dirty disk message. Weird...

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Squall-Leonhart · May 27th, 2008, 00:25

launch epsxe with the -i command switch, and report back,

legend100 · May 27th, 2008, 04:05

Nope, loading in the Interpreter core does not work either.

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**hushypushy** · May 27th, 2008, 19:42

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Originally Posted by legend100

This appears to be a bug with 1.7 because if I drop the 1.6 exe in the folder and try that one, game loads fine everytime.

hmm, I'm going to have to add this to the FAQ.

If 1.6.0 works for you--use that. Why struggle with using 1.7.0 when all it does is crash? When an emulator gets to a very advanced stage (like this one), it often happens that new fixes also create problems that were never there.

When 1.6.0 came out, it was a revelation. They fixed so many problems and improved on a lot of things. The trouble was...they also created a crapload of other problems. Such is the nature of emulation. I recommend that you use whatever emulator works. I might be an extreme case, but I have every PSX emulator in several versions ready to try in case one doesn't work

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May 26th, 2008, 09:02	#1
legend100 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 274	N2O does not load anymore Whenever N20 tries to load its main menu, it says the disc is dirty and to clean it. Well, its an ISO and with *default plugins*, I've tried the "Run ISO" command and mounting it and selecting "Run CD", but still nothing. It always stops midload with that error message. This appears to be a bug with 1.7 because if I drop the 1.6 exe in the folder and try that one, game loads fine everytime. Is there anything else that can be causing this or is this just a regression from 1.6? __________________ Intel Duo Core E8400 @ 3.6 ghz. / Asus P5QL-E / 2 Gig Ram / GeForce 8800GT 512mb PCI-e / Creative Audigy 2 / Win XP Pro SP3 / X360 controllers

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May 26th, 2008, 09:30	#2
jonc2006 Mod of Douchebagness™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA MD Posts: 9,793	have you tried playing from the disc? __________________ Antec 900/Antec Truepower Quattro 1000W/eVGA 780i SLI/Windows XP Media SP2 & Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1/Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@4.0GHz/Dual eVGA e-Geforce GTX280 1GB DDR3 SLI Enabled/Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer/Corsiar XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2/Dual WD Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM HDDs The Official jonc2006™ Emotion Chart. Courtesy of PCXL-Fan after he tried to steal my identity on Steam because I am so awesome. Official jonc2006™ Fan Club Official jonc2006™ Trophy Collection

May 26th, 2008, 09:37	#3
legend100 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 274	No, because they should be no reason I need to - I have a perfectly fine ISO of the game that I've been playing for years. 1.7 can't read the ISO I made from it mounted, so the disc wouldn't be much different. Why has 1.6 played it fine for years? Why would it say the disc is dirty? Can someone verify please? We've norrowed it down to the exe, so sound like a regression to me. __________________ Intel Duo Core E8400 @ 3.6 ghz. / Asus P5QL-E / 2 Gig Ram / GeForce 8800GT 512mb PCI-e / Creative Audigy 2 / Win XP Pro SP3 / X360 controllers Last edited by legend100; May 26th, 2008 at 09:54..

May 26th, 2008, 09:45	#4
PowerslaveLA Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: northern hemisphere Posts: 6	Whens the last time you looked at your disc? it might really be dirty :P (sorry i needed a chuckle).

May 26th, 2008, 23:11	#6
legend100 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 274	Oh, I thought you were just wanting me to use the CD. Since you were just troubleshooting for me I gave it a try. Sure enough, no boot also. So it appears to have nothing to do with the drastic changes to the ISO system. This game just doesn't load properly anymore. Smeg!! Might want to move to the "game compatablity" section...unless anyone can get this to work? __________________ Intel Duo Core E8400 @ 3.6 ghz. / Asus P5QL-E / 2 Gig Ram / GeForce 8800GT 512mb PCI-e / Creative Audigy 2 / Win XP Pro SP3 / X360 controllers

May 26th, 2008, 23:17	#7
jonc2006 Mod of Douchebagness™ Join Date: May 2006 Location: USA MD Posts: 9,793	is this the only game you have tried so far on 1.7.0? btw dumb question but what is N20 anyway? i dont recognize the name. and have you tried using plugins other than the default ones? __________________ Antec 900/Antec Truepower Quattro 1000W/eVGA 780i SLI/Windows XP Media SP2 & Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit SP1/Intel Core 2 Duo E8400@4.0GHz/Dual eVGA e-Geforce GTX280 1GB DDR3 SLI Enabled/Creative SB X-Fi XtremeGamer/Corsiar XMS2 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2/Dual WD Caviar SE16 500GB 7200RPM HDDs The Official jonc2006™ Emotion Chart. Courtesy of PCXL-Fan after he tried to steal my identity on Steam because I am so awesome. Official jonc2006™ Fan Club Official jonc2006™ Trophy Collection

May 27th, 2008, 00:25	#10
Squall-Leonhart Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 23,270	launch epsxe with the -i command switch, and report back,

May 27th, 2008, 04:05	#11
legend100 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Washington, USA Posts: 274	Nope, loading in the Interpreter core does not work either. __________________ Intel Duo Core E8400 @ 3.6 ghz. / Asus P5QL-E / 2 Gig Ram / GeForce 8800GT 512mb PCI-e / Creative Audigy 2 / Win XP Pro SP3 / X360 controllers