Question about my configuration

final-seph · May 13th, 2008, 16:27

Hello people
I would know what I must change in my hardware configuration to run PCSX2 faster :

AMD Phenom 9500 : 4x 2200 MHz
Nvidia Geforce 8600 GTS
4 Go DDR2 Corsair
Windows Vista Ultimate 32-Bits

I think I will buy a Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT or 9600 GSO do you think it will change a lot speed ? Did Vista 64-bits can change performance ? thank you very much.

P.S sorry for my poor english I'm french and not speak english correctly :-(

Mr. Killjoy · May 13th, 2008, 16:51

8600 GTS should be enough, but this Phenom at stock speed isn't. You can't only run the less demanding games with it. So either you change it (I guess you got it recently, so it would be a waste of money to do that), or you overclock it, but I don't know if this CPU can handle much higher clocks (3ghz recommended for most games, and that's with Core2)

Sorry for speaking english, it's the only language allowed here

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**RPGW1ZaRD** · May 13th, 2008, 17:04

Only in a very few games 8600GTS might limit you on that setup provided you use DX9 mode as these games aren't as GPU intensive using DX10. CPU performance is the drawback in most cases, Phenom 2.2GHz is like slightly behind a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo in performance and often a 3GHz+ Intel Core 2 Duo CPU overclock is required for good/full speeds in lots of games so you can imagine how the worse clocking AMD Phenom part would do then too. Only if pushing that CPU to the limits you might be able to enjoy great speeds in a decent amount games. Phenom isn't really a great choice for PCSX2 users, even an old X2 6400+ for example would do a lot better job.

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**cottonvibes** · May 13th, 2008, 17:06

get a new CPU like Mr. Killjoy said.

you can't overclock phenoms very well, so you're going to need to get a new CPU.

sadly you have an AMD system, so your choice of good chips are limited.

a 6400 x2 would be the best choice, and try and overclock it as much as possible (which won't be much..)

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Mr. Killjoy · May 13th, 2008, 17:12

"get a new CPU like Mr. Killjoy said."
Well, I said it was the ideal thing to do, but I wouldn't do it myself, because when you buy a new computer and you're told that you have to change some expensive parts because they suck, it's a bit annoying if you're low on money. (Take it as a lesson for next time you upgrade, gather more info on what you want to get)

That's why I suggest an OC, but I don't really know how they OC... my only experience with AMD pushed me to go back to Intel for the next upgrade ^^'
I chose the Q6600 not only because I sometimes make use of 4 cores, but also because it was known to be a f'cking good OCer, as opposed to AMD cheaper but not-as-efficient stuff

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CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
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final-seph · May 14th, 2008, 17:50

thank you for your quick response

in fact i have change my computer in March so I will not change it ^^ and I can't modify FSB in BIOS (my motherboard is lock for overclocking) so if I have understand i'have 2 solution : change my processor or overclock it . do you know any method to overclock without BIOS ? or if i change what processor must i buy ? and last question (i know i ask many questions sorry) can my graphic card supported a lot of game at full speed if she is combined with a fast processssor ?
thank you

Mr. Killjoy · May 14th, 2008, 18:08

"do you know any method to overclock without BIOS ?"
There are softwares that can do that, but it's not recommended because they often cause only problems. Also, it may not work at all on motherboards that don't support custom FSB settings. BTW, read the manual for your motherboard (BIOS section), on some of them, you must do something to unhide the overclocking options. For example, on my Gigabyte, I don't see the OC menu without doing CTRL+F1, but after that, I have plenty of options

"or if i change what processor must i buy ?"
It depends on what you want to do beside emulation, but I'd say you should buy the best Core2 you can get for a good price, then OC it if you want (but you'll have to change your motherboard too...). For PCSX2, it's recommended to have your cores running at least at 3ghz. Some games require less, but faster is always better in such cases (as long as it's not overpriced).

"and last question (i know i ask many questions sorry) can my graphic card supported a lot of game at full speed if she is combined with a fast processssor ?"
Well, first, processor only takes 2 S

8600GTS card is quite nice for its price, it should be ok in most case, especially if your CPU is good enough to make a difference. Don't buy a new one until you really need it. If you want some boost, you can still try to OC it too, but it's at your own risks.
Anways, CPU is your main problem here

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CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
All ePSXe plugins up-to-date

http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

final-seph · May 14th, 2008, 18:19

So I Will try to OC my Processor and i I can't i will buy a sell my Phenom for a 3 GHz C2D (I had overclock my graphic card)
Thank you

Mr. Killjoy · May 14th, 2008, 18:55

If you can get a C2Q for about the same price, it's nice too. Unless you only play games with your computer

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- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
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final-seph · May 15th, 2008, 09:17

so i have watch prices and I think i will buy a 64 x2 6400 3,2 GHz AM2 because my motherboard is AM2 or AM2+ socket is it good for PCSX2 ?

Mr. Killjoy · May 15th, 2008, 10:00

It should be OK yeah, at least for games that are known to run fine on 3ghz Core2.
But maybe you'll want to keep your Phenom in a box somewhere, because someday, you may want to make good use of its 4 cores. For now, a faster dualcore is better for you.

__________________
CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
All ePSXe plugins up-to-date

http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

final-seph · May 15th, 2008, 10:03

Yes i will put in a box my phenom to play pcsx2 with AMD64 and maybe it will be a quad core version for pcsx2 ^^ thank you for your help

Mkilbride2588 · May 15th, 2008, 10:37

Quad Core support for PCSX2 has been said to have next to nil side effects, so don't count on it. Man, I wish it did have the 50% boost like I often dream of logging on one day and seeing...but it's not going to happen, sadly, due to the PS2's structure.

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Godwin · May 15th, 2008, 10:49

You can stick the SPU2 on another core, but beyond that you'll kill compatibility before you actually get more than 5FPS.

Mr. Killjoy · May 15th, 2008, 11:43

Poor Mkilbride, you must be bored to repeat the same stuff over and over... ^^

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- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
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hockland · May 15th, 2008, 12:27

Meh ah well. I`m sure we have speed boosts from other things to look forward to in the future.

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Mr. Killjoy · May 15th, 2008, 12:32

Yup, the speed boost the latest SVNs on many games is already quite impressive. I like it when there are magic updates like this ^^

__________________
CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz

- RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400)

VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB

- Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w
24Mb/1Mb ADSL

- Windows 7 Ultimate
---------------------------------------------
All ePSXe plugins up-to-date

http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 13th, 2008, 16:27	#1
final-seph Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: France Posts: 7	Question about my configuration Hello people I would know what I must change in my hardware configuration to run PCSX2 faster : AMD Phenom 9500 : 4x 2200 MHz Nvidia Geforce 8600 GTS 4 Go DDR2 Corsair Windows Vista Ultimate 32-Bits I think I will buy a Nvidia Geforce 9600 GT or 9600 GSO do you think it will change a lot speed ? Did Vista 64-bits can change performance ? thank you very much. P.S sorry for my poor english I'm french and not speak english correctly :-(

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May 13th, 2008, 16:51	#2
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	8600 GTS should be enough, but this Phenom at stock speed isn't. You can't only run the less demanding games with it. So either you change it (I guess you got it recently, so it would be a waste of money to do that), or you overclock it, but I don't know if this CPU can handle much higher clocks (3ghz recommended for most games, and that's with Core2) Sorry for speaking english, it's the only language allowed here __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 13th, 2008, 17:04	#3
RPGW1ZaRD PCSX2 & O/C Addict Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: My Computer Posts: 2,841	Only in a very few games 8600GTS might limit you on that setup provided you use DX9 mode as these games aren't as GPU intensive using DX10. CPU performance is the drawback in most cases, Phenom 2.2GHz is like slightly behind a 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo in performance and often a 3GHz+ Intel Core 2 Duo CPU overclock is required for good/full speeds in lots of games so you can imagine how the worse clocking AMD Phenom part would do then too. Only if pushing that CPU to the limits you might be able to enjoy great speeds in a decent amount games. Phenom isn't really a great choice for PCSX2 users, even an old X2 6400+ for example would do a lot better job. __________________ « Feel free to browse through PCSX2 screenshots on RPGWiZaRD's Putfile.com section » Intel® Core™2 Duo E8400 @ 4.0GHz «-» Gigabyte P35-DS4 «-» CellShock 2x1GB @ DDR2-1200 5-5-4-10 «-» JetWay 8800GT 512 MB @ 705/1750/1015 MHz «-» Thermaltake ToughPower 750W «-» Sony Multiscan G400 19" CRT «-» OCZ Vendetta 2 «-» Creative SoundBlaster Audigy «-» Logitech X-530 5.1 «-» Sennheiser HD 212 Pro «-» Logitech MX™518 Gaming-Grade «-» Razer Mantis Speed «-» Windows XP Pro SP3 «-» Windows Server 2k8 XSOS 3.0 BETA

May 13th, 2008, 17:06	#4
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	get a new CPU like Mr. Killjoy said. you can't overclock phenoms very well, so you're going to need to get a new CPU. sadly you have an AMD system, so your choice of good chips are limited. a 6400 x2 would be the best choice, and try and overclock it as much as possible (which won't be much..) __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

May 13th, 2008, 17:12	#5
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	"get a new CPU like Mr. Killjoy said." Well, I said it was the ideal thing to do, but I wouldn't do it myself, because when you buy a new computer and you're told that you have to change some expensive parts because they suck, it's a bit annoying if you're low on money. (Take it as a lesson for next time you upgrade, gather more info on what you want to get) That's why I suggest an OC, but I don't really know how they OC... my only experience with AMD pushed me to go back to Intel for the next upgrade ^^' I chose the Q6600 not only because I sometimes make use of 4 cores, but also because it was known to be a f'cking good OCer, as opposed to AMD cheaper but not-as-efficient stuff __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 14th, 2008, 17:50	#6
final-seph Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: France Posts: 7	thank you for your quick response in fact i have change my computer in March so I will not change it ^^ and I can't modify FSB in BIOS (my motherboard is lock for overclocking) so if I have understand i'have 2 solution : change my processor or overclock it . do you know any method to overclock without BIOS ? or if i change what processor must i buy ? and last question (i know i ask many questions sorry) can my graphic card supported a lot of game at full speed if she is combined with a fast processssor ? thank you

May 14th, 2008, 18:08	#7
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	"do you know any method to overclock without BIOS ?" There are softwares that can do that, but it's not recommended because they often cause only problems. Also, it may not work at all on motherboards that don't support custom FSB settings. BTW, read the manual for your motherboard (BIOS section), on some of them, you must do something to unhide the overclocking options. For example, on my Gigabyte, I don't see the OC menu without doing CTRL+F1, but after that, I have plenty of options "or if i change what processor must i buy ?" It depends on what you want to do beside emulation, but I'd say you should buy the best Core2 you can get for a good price, then OC it if you want (but you'll have to change your motherboard too...). For PCSX2, it's recommended to have your cores running at least at 3ghz. Some games require less, but faster is always better in such cases (as long as it's not overpriced). "and last question (i know i ask many questions sorry) can my graphic card supported a lot of game at full speed if she is combined with a fast processssor ?" Well, first, processor only takes 2 S 8600GTS card is quite nice for its price, it should be ok in most case, especially if your CPU is good enough to make a difference. Don't buy a new one until you really need it. If you want some boost, you can still try to OC it too, but it's at your own risks. Anways, CPU is your main problem here __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 14th, 2008, 18:19	#8
final-seph Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: France Posts: 7	So I Will try to OC my Processor and i I can't i will buy a sell my Phenom for a 3 GHz C2D (I had overclock my graphic card) Thank you

May 14th, 2008, 18:55	#9
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	If you can get a C2Q for about the same price, it's nice too. Unless you only play games with your computer __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 15th, 2008, 09:17	#10
final-seph Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: France Posts: 7	so i have watch prices and I think i will buy a 64 x2 6400 3,2 GHz AM2 because my motherboard is AM2 or AM2+ socket is it good for PCSX2 ?

May 15th, 2008, 10:00	#11
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	It should be OK yeah, at least for games that are known to run fine on 3ghz Core2. But maybe you'll want to keep your Phenom in a box somewhere, because someday, you may want to make good use of its 4 cores. For now, a faster dualcore is better for you. __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 15th, 2008, 10:03	#12
final-seph Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: France Posts: 7	Yes i will put in a box my phenom to play pcsx2 with AMD64 and maybe it will be a quad core version for pcsx2 ^^ thank you for your help

May 15th, 2008, 10:37	#13
Mkilbride2588 The Pest Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 1,815	Quad Core support for PCSX2 has been said to have next to nil side effects, so don't count on it. Man, I wish it did have the 50% boost like I often dream of logging on one day and seeing...but it's not going to happen, sadly, due to the PS2's structure. __________________ PC configuration Q6600 @ 3.4GHZ Stable,GeForce 8800 GT 512 MB GDDR3(Super-clocked) ,4GB PC8000(1000MHZ) RAM @ 950MHZ(5-5-5-15)(Waiting to tweak them eventually),Windows XP SP2 Professional(Vista 64 bit, Dual Boot),750GB 7200 RPM, 32 MB Cache Hard-drive(SATAII),24'' LCD( I know, sorry CRT'ers) HD 1080pi, DVI connected, 1920 x 1200 @ 60HZ),P35-DS3L Revision 2.0 @ 1.49V http://tinyurl.com/2zzzsr Use the Guide above to get PCSX2 to run properly. Has all you need to know to run PCSX2. Having trouble with a game? Check here: http://tinyurl.com/2cuzhx

May 15th, 2008, 10:49	#14
Godwin Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ohaio Posts: 1,069	You can stick the SPU2 on another core, but beyond that you'll kill compatibility before you actually get more than 5FPS.

May 15th, 2008, 11:43	#15
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	Poor Mkilbride, you must be bored to repeat the same stuff over and over... ^^ __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/

May 15th, 2008, 12:27	#16
hockland Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 557	Meh ah well. I`m sure we have speed boosts from other things to look forward to in the future. __________________ Old habits die hard - System Shock PC Specs: 2.4 ghz Quad Core, 3gb ram, nvidia 8800GTS 640mb gfx card.

May 15th, 2008, 12:32	#17
Mr. Killjoy Translator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Somewhere I don't belong (La Rochelle, France) Posts: 7,829	Yup, the speed boost the latest SVNs on many games is already quite impressive. I like it when there are magic updates like this ^^ __________________ CPU: Core 2 Q6600@3.2GHz - RAM: 4GB DDR2 (Corsair PC6400) VGA: GF GTX460 1024MB - Monitor: H233H 23" 1920x1080 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35C-DS3R - PSU: Antec NeoPower Blue 650w 24Mb/1Mb ADSL - Windows 7 Ultimate --------------------------------------------- All ePSXe plugins up-to-date http://mrkilljoy.deviantart.com/