FF8 PC vs FF8 PS on ePSXe?

Battousai1 · January 13th, 2002, 16:11

tell me whats better PC FF8? or PS FF8 on epsxe? cause I have the FF8 PC version and found out that PS version is much more in depth and has smaller character graphics than PC cause the PC version has only one resolution (640 X 480) and the epsxe has 800 X 600 but the PC versions graphics excluding the background is fine and better, will the epsxe give me better graphics than PS did?

Andronicus · January 13th, 2002, 16:17

Yes, ePSXe will give you better graphic from PS.

For me the PS version on ePSXe is better than PC version
Btw, I use 640x480 even playing in ePSXe....

Battousai1 · January 13th, 2002, 16:35

i use 800 X 600 32 bit when using epsxe btw whats the difference between different resolutions? will the characters become smaller?

gerbilcannon · January 13th, 2002, 17:07

Unless you enabled keep correct aspect ratio, the screen will be stretched in varied and sundry ways that aren't particularly noticeable (to me) unless you are running next to a correct aspect ratio screen. Other than that, the higher the resolution the less likely you are to notice the stair-stepping effect along edges at the cost of performance. From what I understand ff8 for the pc has higher quality backgrounds and movies, but the music quality has degraded since it is all rather cheap midi. The screen resolution has nothing to do with how big the characters seem on the screen though, just how pixelated. And I really don't know what you mean about the ps version being "much more in depth" as the plot and everything is exactly the same with nothing cut unless you're comparing jap ff8 and us ff8 in which case there may be some minor changes.

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Spam-vt · January 14th, 2002, 03:01

My pick would be PS FF8 under ePSXe, for the simple reason that you can speed through those annoying guardian force animations (assuming you have a fast computer). With Pete's video plugins, you can use the Home and End keys to toggle frame rate limitation when the frame rate is shown. Battles go so much faster when you can summon GF's at 200+ fps.

Enigma1982 · January 14th, 2002, 03:15

However PC version will give you DVD quality movie.
And 3D perspective correction with not found in PSX version.

Battousai1 · January 14th, 2002, 06:02

ok final question is the FF8 PS on epsxe complete i mean is it fully compatible? with no bug and glitches? cause i believe in PC version it's totally operational cause of the simple fact that it is totally a port. well for the graphics i have no problems cause I liked epsxe simply because of it's cutting edge graphics

**kazzuya** · January 14th, 2002, 06:38

Maybe FF8 PC should have had a plugin system like PSEmu's 8)
FF8 PC is a fixed piece of code which was built to run fast enough on Voodoo2, TNT2, Matrox G200 and possibly Voodoo1 (with some glitches).
Unfortunately all the art in the game was straight from the PSX, movies and fonts being the only exceptions (remember to choose hires fonts in the settings).

Videogames with a plugin system.. now that would be cool !

MajinChubbZ · January 14th, 2002, 12:02

Why play it any way it sucks the last ff's have sucked(that is FF8,FF9,and FF10)

gerbilcannon · January 14th, 2002, 12:15

Look, was he asking for a bloody opinion poll on how good the latest final fantasy offerings have been? He just wants to play it, that's all. Couldn't Q3 be considered a video game with a plug-in system kind of? =)

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Traxxx · January 14th, 2002, 20:34

FF8 is better on PC

because I like XG-Sounds better than psx sounds

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Battousai1 · January 14th, 2002, 23:29

whats XG sound?

**Demigod** · January 15th, 2002, 01:38

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Originally posted by kazzuya
Videogames with a plugin system.. now that would be cool !

No, it would be a hassle. Remember the old VGA days? You had to manually select your videocard from a list, and if your card wasn't supported you couldn't play (or you had to play in CGA/EGA mode). The sole purpose for DirectX is to have one general APIset to program games for. FF VII PC & FF VIII PC used specific drivers for each chipset (not actually Direct3D) and it was a huge hassle.

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Battousai1 · January 15th, 2002, 04:24

well to tell you I am currently playing FF8 for PC since last year but I have doubts if whats better

Goku7 · January 15th, 2002, 04:41

Did somebody say the MIDI music was degraded in porting FF8 from PSX to PC?

Whoever said that is correct, but I've got four words and one website address to remedy that:

Final Fantasy SoundFont Project http://ffsf.cjb.net

The people of this project (of which I'm their newest member) have got the music back up to nearly PSX quality. There's some minor work that needs to be done at this point (mainly stuff like the guitar wah in the boss theme, however me and another member named Samuel Slight have got that implemented, but not up for download yet), but in general the instrument samples are actually ripped directly from the PSX version.

Plus, you can check out the FF9 mod, made by yours truly.....but I won't get in to describing that. :P

But, there is one problem, and its a big one, with using the PC version route: FF8, as well as FF7, has big graphics problems on GeForce-based cards.

I've managed to avoid those problems 'cause I have a 3dFX card.....

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**Kellicros** · January 15th, 2002, 06:51

I own the PC version, and the movies looks a lot better than psx's.
And I also downloaded the sound font from ffsf.cjb.net, the midis sounds great.

Luckily I have no graphic problems with my tnt2 m64.

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zero0w · January 15th, 2002, 09:59

I've been playing FF7 on my pc with GeForce 2, and it's ok,
what graphic problem is it?

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**Kane** · January 15th, 2002, 10:49

It's the ones you get if you haven't installed the GeForce patch.

I can't run FF7 though, it quits out on XP

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Iceydamo · January 15th, 2002, 10:51

When i updated final fantasy 8 for the pc so I can use my soundfonts it works better compared to final fantasy 8 on epsxe because the new configrater is really good.

Traxxx · January 15th, 2002, 10:59

Yes, I said that the midi is better

But don´t compare gm with midi

If you have build in a Yamaha XG Card the sound of FF7 PC just rockz.
FF8 doesn´t need the card because it´s using Direct Music Producer so that if you don´t own a XG card wave samples of
XG sounds (and the chorus samples at the intro) are used as
midi instruments.

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January 13th, 2002, 16:11	#1
Battousai1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 42	FF8 PC vs FF8 PS on ePSXe? tell me whats better PC FF8? or PS FF8 on epsxe? cause I have the FF8 PC version and found out that PS version is much more in depth and has smaller character graphics than PC cause the PC version has only one resolution (640 X 480) and the epsxe has 800 X 600 but the PC versions graphics excluding the background is fine and better, will the epsxe give me better graphics than PS did?

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January 13th, 2002, 16:17	#2
Andronicus ƒeƒC[ƒ_ Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere around the Earth Posts: 846	Yes, ePSXe will give you better graphic from PS. For me the PS version on ePSXe is better than PC version Btw, I use 640x480 even playing in ePSXe....

January 13th, 2002, 16:35	#3
Battousai1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 42	i use 800 X 600 32 bit when using epsxe btw whats the difference between different resolutions? will the characters become smaller?

January 13th, 2002, 17:07	#4
gerbilcannon The Pretty One Join Date: May 2001 Location: Collegedale, TN Posts: 1,247	Unless you enabled keep correct aspect ratio, the screen will be stretched in varied and sundry ways that aren't particularly noticeable (to me) unless you are running next to a correct aspect ratio screen. Other than that, the higher the resolution the less likely you are to notice the stair-stepping effect along edges at the cost of performance. From what I understand ff8 for the pc has higher quality backgrounds and movies, but the music quality has degraded since it is all rather cheap midi. The screen resolution has nothing to do with how big the characters seem on the screen though, just how pixelated. And I really don't know what you mean about the ps version being "much more in depth" as the plot and everything is exactly the same with nothing cut unless you're comparing jap ff8 and us ff8 in which case there may be some minor changes. __________________ "Me? I'm a pop idol." "And you will shed tears of scarlet!"

January 14th, 2002, 03:01	#5
Spam-vt Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 25	My pick would be PS FF8 under ePSXe, for the simple reason that you can speed through those annoying guardian force animations (assuming you have a fast computer). With Pete's video plugins, you can use the Home and End keys to toggle frame rate limitation when the frame rate is shown. Battles go so much faster when you can summon GF's at 200+ fps.

January 14th, 2002, 03:15	#6
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	However PC version will give you DVD quality movie. And 3D perspective correction with not found in PSX version.

January 14th, 2002, 06:02	#7
Battousai1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 42	ok final question is the FF8 PS on epsxe complete i mean is it fully compatible? with no bug and glitches? cause i believe in PC version it's totally operational cause of the simple fact that it is totally a port. well for the graphics i have no problems cause I liked epsxe simply because of it's cutting edge graphics

January 14th, 2002, 06:38	#8
kazzuya Emu author Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 40	Maybe FF8 PC should have had a plugin system like PSEmu's 8) FF8 PC is a fixed piece of code which was built to run fast enough on Voodoo2, TNT2, Matrox G200 and possibly Voodoo1 (with some glitches). Unfortunately all the art in the game was straight from the PSX, movies and fonts being the only exceptions (remember to choose hires fonts in the settings). Videogames with a plugin system.. now that would be cool !

January 14th, 2002, 12:02	#9
MajinChubbZ Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 11	Why play it any way it sucks the last ff's have sucked(that is FF8,FF9,and FF10)

January 14th, 2002, 12:15	#10
gerbilcannon The Pretty One Join Date: May 2001 Location: Collegedale, TN Posts: 1,247	Look, was he asking for a bloody opinion poll on how good the latest final fantasy offerings have been? He just wants to play it, that's all. Couldn't Q3 be considered a video game with a plug-in system kind of? =) __________________ "Me? I'm a pop idol." "And you will shed tears of scarlet!"

January 14th, 2002, 20:34	#11
Traxxx Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 275	FF8 is better on PC because I like XG-Sounds better than psx sounds __________________ CU Traxxx Homepage: http://traxxx.no-ip.org [Systems: 1x AMD Athlon FX 60, 1x AMD Athlon X2 4800+, 1x AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 1x AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 1x Intel Core2Duo E4300, Minimum RAM 1 GB DDR, Maximum 4 GB Dual Channel DDR CL 2 @ 333 Mhz, 2x Sapphire Radeon X1900XTX (Crossfire), 1x HIS IceQ3 X1900XTX, 2xPowerColor X850XT PE, 1x His IceQ3 HD3850 Turbo SB Audigy 2 ZS, 4x DVDRW 16x Dual Layer,3x 19" CRT, 17" TFT BenQ, 4 Webcams, 64-fullsize-keys Midi-Masterkeyboard and a lot of stuff ]

January 14th, 2002, 23:29	#12
Battousai1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 42	whats XG sound?

January 15th, 2002, 04:24	#14
Battousai1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 42	well to tell you I am currently playing FF8 for PC since last year but I have doubts if whats better

January 15th, 2002, 04:41	#15
Goku7 Diehard 3Dfx Fanboy! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kicking Kuja's ass, all with the power of 3Dfx!! Posts: 544	Did somebody say the MIDI music was degraded in porting FF8 from PSX to PC? Whoever said that is correct, but I've got four words and one website address to remedy that: Final Fantasy SoundFont Project http://ffsf.cjb.net The people of this project (of which I'm their newest member) have got the music back up to nearly PSX quality. There's some minor work that needs to be done at this point (mainly stuff like the guitar wah in the boss theme, however me and another member named Samuel Slight have got that implemented, but not up for download yet), but in general the instrument samples are actually ripped directly from the PSX version. Plus, you can check out the FF9 mod, made by yours truly.....but I won't get in to describing that. :P But, there is one problem, and its a big one, with using the PC version route: FF8, as well as FF7, has big graphics problems on GeForce-based cards. I've managed to avoid those problems 'cause I have a 3dFX card..... __________________ A 233Mhz CPU. Its not just slow, its a CURSE!! Last edited by Goku7; January 15th, 2002 at 04:42..

January 15th, 2002, 06:51	#16
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,719	I own the PC version, and the movies looks a lot better than psx's. And I also downloaded the sound font from ffsf.cjb.net, the midis sounds great. Luckily I have no graphic problems with my tnt2 m64. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt Last edited by Evil Squall; January 15th, 2002 at 10:05..

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January 15th, 2002, 10:49	#18
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	It's the ones you get if you haven't installed the GeForce patch. I can't run FF7 though, it quits out on XP __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

January 15th, 2002, 10:51	#19
Iceydamo IceyD the Ice Cold Prince Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: uk Posts: 176	When i updated final fantasy 8 for the pc so I can use my soundfonts it works better compared to final fantasy 8 on epsxe because the new configrater is really good.

January 15th, 2002, 10:59	#20
Traxxx Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 275	Yes, I said that the midi is better But don´t compare gm with midi If you have build in a Yamaha XG Card the sound of FF7 PC just rockz. FF8 doesn´t need the card because it´s using Direct Music Producer so that if you don´t own a XG card wave samples of XG sounds (and the chorus samples at the intro) are used as midi instruments. __________________ CU Traxxx Homepage: http://traxxx.no-ip.org [Systems: 1x AMD Athlon FX 60, 1x AMD Athlon X2 4800+, 1x AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 1x AMD Athlon 64 3800+, 1x Intel Core2Duo E4300, Minimum RAM 1 GB DDR, Maximum 4 GB Dual Channel DDR CL 2 @ 333 Mhz, 2x Sapphire Radeon X1900XTX (Crossfire), 1x HIS IceQ3 X1900XTX, 2xPowerColor X850XT PE, 1x His IceQ3 HD3850 Turbo SB Audigy 2 ZS, 4x DVDRW 16x Dual Layer,3x 19" CRT, 17" TFT BenQ, 4 Webcams, 64-fullsize-keys Midi-Masterkeyboard and a lot of stuff ]