PSX Games Modding/Texture Editing

Echad · February 6th, 2008, 00:57

Hi, guys! =)

I used the PSX Multi Converter to analyze the CD's and ISO images of Tekken 2 and Bushido Blade 2 games - It found countless TIM images, that it can convert to BPM... They seem to look like ordinary textures, just cut in parts. I know that I can get them and edit on my PC, and that PSX ISO's and/or CD's can be patched.

I wonder - can I patch the CD with updated textures, how, and what do I need for it?

This is just for personal use, no copyright issues, since:

a) It is modding - you can see countless mods for PC games online.
b) The games are old, both Sqare and Namco do not get money for them now.
b) I do it for myself, and not for public release.

So, CAN the edited TIM textures be put back on a CD? And how?

EDIT:

Discussion on this topic was maintained here:

http://forums.ngemu.com/misc-psx-dis...-game-iso.html

And yes, I was able to replace some Tekken textures:

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1103/akeditmr0.jpg

Last edited by Echad; June 10th, 2008 at 01:09..

**ShendoXT** · February 6th, 2008, 14:09

I haven't done any texture editing but imagine it would be like this:
When you edit the images you would have to convert them back to .tim with the TIM utility (google for it).
After that you would probably have to replace the old ones manually by HEX editing.

Echad · February 7th, 2008, 06:45

Aha, any other methods, as hex-editing the whole .iso would be pretty cumbersome. =\

And - .tim files are paletted? And if, than how much colours are available to them?

Edit: I found countless tim/bmp and tim/tga convert tools, but have no frickin' idea on how to put them back on disk. =\

Last edited by Echad; February 7th, 2008 at 07:50..

krissgjeng · February 7th, 2008, 13:20

have you tried with ultraiso or similar application

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tzwientjuh · February 7th, 2008, 16:14

I've tried to edit a game. I tried to mod Driver 2. (Not all games have .tim files)
So for a beginning i wanted to change the splash screens.

1. Extract the files of the the image with Magic Iso
2. Converted .tim files to .bmp using Timviewer
3. Then I edited a splash screen namely the first one you see when the game starts( or boot).
4. Converted back to .tim
5.a) Made a new .img or .iso file with the edited splash screen.
or
b) Dragged the edited .tim file into to the dir where it was in Magic Iso

Test result: Game did not start! There was only a black screen.
Conclusion: Edited and replacing a file results in not playable game

Any suggestions??

srry for bad english, i am Dutch

http://www.zophar.net/utilities/psxutil.html

good site to find tools

Last edited by tzwientjuh; February 7th, 2008 at 16:25.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

Echad · February 11th, 2008, 14:28

WELL, AFAIK, the files that PSXMC finds, cannot be found in the CD directory, probably will need to double-check it, but I thought it found them the same as XA or STR tracks. =\ So this is the biggest trouble.

Need just to try a simple "decompiling .iso, changing the .tim, inserting it back, recompiling .iso" just to check, will it work at all. I am also sure that the games use different .tim formats, at least the BB2 ones looked a little bit less than 8-bit deep.

Trouble is with the "inserting .tim back part". =\

P.S. And yes, I used Zophar's site for utils.

Edit:

tzwientjuh - it is most likely by your conversion having bigger size, i.e. 16 bits instead of 8...

Last edited by Echad; June 10th, 2008 at 01:12..

sammyjr · November 9th, 2008, 22:53

I opened Destruction Derby 2 with UltraEdit and changed 1 small thing and the game wouldn't load in epsxe at all, but it would load my saved state and play in the game untill the race finished, but when it tried to load the menu it gave random colors across the screen and froze. Even when i changed everything back to normal in UltraEdit the game still remained 'broken' style?

Is there a way to change things in in psone games without it 'breaking' the game?

and, is there a way to mod the player 1 car so he can have (example = the master's (car 00) look and the master would have player 1's look?

Richy87 · August 19th, 2012, 19:29

I know this post is really old, and this question maybe in the wrong place but bare with me...

Is it possible to take a psx game lets say a soccer/football game and change the rosters/team name on a pc and get it it work back on a playstation via option files/save game files or whatever other method and if so how?

<3 Richy

February 6th, 2008, 00:57	#1
Echad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Odessa Posts: 7	PSX Games Modding/Texture Editing Hi, guys! =) I used the PSX Multi Converter to analyze the CD's and ISO images of Tekken 2 and Bushido Blade 2 games - It found countless TIM images, that it can convert to BPM... They seem to look like ordinary textures, just cut in parts. I know that I can get them and edit on my PC, and that PSX ISO's and/or CD's can be patched. I wonder - can I patch the CD with updated textures, how, and what do I need for it? This is just for personal use, no copyright issues, since: a) It is modding - you can see countless mods for PC games online. b) The games are old, both Sqare and Namco do not get money for them now. b) I do it for myself, and not for public release. So, CAN the edited TIM textures be put back on a CD? And how? EDIT: Discussion on this topic was maintained here: http://forums.ngemu.com/misc-psx-dis...-game-iso.html And yes, I was able to replace some Tekken textures: http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1103/akeditmr0.jpg Last edited by Echad; June 10th, 2008 at 01:09..

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February 6th, 2008, 14:09	#2
ShendoXT Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Croatia Posts: 4,547	I haven't done any texture editing but imagine it would be like this: When you edit the images you would have to convert them back to .tim with the TIM utility (google for it). After that you would probably have to replace the old ones manually by HEX editing. __________________ Shendo's software blog Core i5 2400 3.1 Ghz \| ASRock H67M \| GTX460 768Mb \| 8GB DDR3 1333 \| 1500 Gb HDD Grundig VLC 7121 C (1080p) 32" \| Razer DeathAdder \| Logitech G110 \| Windows 7 x64 Don't PM or ask me about VMP-MCR conversions. I will ignore you if you do.

February 7th, 2008, 06:45	#3
Echad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Odessa Posts: 7	Aha, any other methods, as hex-editing the whole .iso would be pretty cumbersome. =\ And - .tim files are paletted? And if, than how much colours are available to them? Edit: I found countless tim/bmp and tim/tga convert tools, but have no frickin' idea on how to put them back on disk. =\ Last edited by Echad; February 7th, 2008 at 07:50..

February 7th, 2008, 13:20	#4
krissgjeng Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: norway Posts: 246	have you tried with ultraiso or similar application __________________ pc configuration: cpu: AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3.0GHz, GPU: GeForce 8800GTS 640MB, MoBo: Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe, RAM: Corsair 6GB, case: Cooler Master Centurion 534, HDs: Seagate 500GB + 750GB +external 1TB, Os: Archlinux & Windows 7. my website

February 7th, 2008, 16:14	#5
tzwientjuh Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Belgium Posts: 2	I've tried to edit a game. I tried to mod Driver 2. (Not all games have .tim files) So for a beginning i wanted to change the splash screens. 1. Extract the files of the the image with Magic Iso 2. Converted .tim files to .bmp using Timviewer 3. Then I edited a splash screen namely the first one you see when the game starts( or boot). 4. Converted back to .tim 5.a) Made a new .img or .iso file with the edited splash screen. or b) Dragged the edited .tim file into to the dir where it was in Magic Iso Test result: Game did not start! There was only a black screen. Conclusion: Edited and replacing a file results in not playable game Any suggestions?? srry for bad english, i am Dutch http://www.zophar.net/utilities/psxutil.html good site to find tools Last edited by tzwientjuh; February 7th, 2008 at 16:25.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

February 11th, 2008, 14:28	#6
Echad Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Odessa Posts: 7	WELL, AFAIK, the files that PSXMC finds, cannot be found in the CD directory, probably will need to double-check it, but I thought it found them the same as XA or STR tracks. =\ So this is the biggest trouble. Need just to try a simple "decompiling .iso, changing the .tim, inserting it back, recompiling .iso" just to check, will it work at all. I am also sure that the games use different .tim formats, at least the BB2 ones looked a little bit less than 8-bit deep. Trouble is with the "inserting .tim back part". =\ P.S. And yes, I used Zophar's site for utils. Edit: tzwientjuh - it is most likely by your conversion having bigger size, i.e. 16 bits instead of 8... Last edited by Echad; June 10th, 2008 at 01:12..

November 9th, 2008, 22:53	#7
sammyjr Registered User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: usa Posts: 2	I opened Destruction Derby 2 with UltraEdit and changed 1 small thing and the game wouldn't load in epsxe at all, but it would load my saved state and play in the game untill the race finished, but when it tried to load the menu it gave random colors across the screen and froze. Even when i changed everything back to normal in UltraEdit the game still remained 'broken' style? Is there a way to change things in in psone games without it 'breaking' the game? and, is there a way to mod the player 1 car so he can have (example = the master's (car 00) look and the master would have player 1's look?

August 19th, 2012, 19:29	#8
Richy87 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 1	I know this post is really old, and this question maybe in the wrong place but bare with me... Is it possible to take a psx game lets say a soccer/football game and change the rosters/team name on a pc and get it it work back on a playstation via option files/save game files or whatever other method and if so how? <3 Richy