A small problem, concerning 'Frame Skip'...

ready2rumbelX · February 19th, 2003, 21:17

I'm using VisualBoy Advance v1.4, and when I play any game, it doesn't seem as smooth as it should. So, I was checking my settings when I noticed it was set to 2 on 'Frame Skipping. Now, I set it to 0 and it was SILKY Smooth! But, the sound would pause and jump. The only way I can get smooth sound is with 'Frame Skipping' set to 2. Now, it doesn't matter what sound, or video settings I set it to. I tried this on 2 other machines and it's the same result.

So, how can I get VBA to run silky smooth with it set to 0 on 'Frame Skipping' and have good, smooth sound?

Thanks alot for the help.

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_E_ · February 20th, 2003, 00:57

?? maybe lowering the frequency you are using ould help? like from 44 Khz to 22 Khz......otherwise, i have no idea

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REi_FoX · February 20th, 2003, 01:58

how about VSYNC

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**Yeloazndevil** · February 20th, 2003, 02:08

try setting priority to Highest

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**Forgotten** · February 20th, 2003, 02:42

Try changing the sound synchronization to/from Old Synchronization under the Options->Sound menu. If that doesn't work, I have no other suggestions.

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jegHegy · February 20th, 2003, 09:36

get a faster PC ^^ you could always try closing background apps.

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ready2rumbelX · February 20th, 2003, 21:07

My sound is on 22KHZ, and it doesn't matter whether VSYNC is ON or OFF, and i've tried the 'Old Synchronization' mode, but still have the problem....although I haven't tried setting the Priority leve to 'Highest' yet....i'll try it.

Thanks for the suggestions/tips, and write down anymore you can. Thanks..

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**Forgotten** · February 21st, 2003, 00:34

One thing I know is that SB Live! drivers were really bad sometime ago, so I would try looking if updated drivers are available.

ready2rumbelX · February 21st, 2003, 09:04

Thanks Forgotten. B.T.W, fantastic emulator!! Keep up the brilliant work!

As for the SB drivers, I checked the Creative site, and I have the latest drivers for XP. I'll try VBA in ME next. But what makes me think it's something else is the fact that I tried it on 2 other machines, which don't have SB Live!, and it did the same thing. Both machines I tested on are the equivalent of my rig. One machine was using ME, and the other XP.

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**Forgotten** · February 21st, 2003, 23:09

Do you have autoframeskip checked or not?

ready2rumbelX · February 21st, 2003, 23:44

I do NOT have auto frameskip on. B.T.W, I tested VBA in Win ME. Now, I'm using a BIOS with VBA, so everytime I load a GBA ROM, it shows the BIOS. Now, in XP the BIOS' sound chops, but when I try in Win ME, it doesn't. Now, still in ME, the sound chops rarelly, and the only game where it is bad in both XP and ME is Tekken Advance. Other games I try, like Mario Kart Advance, seems fine in ME, but choppy in XP. I have the identical settings in both XP and ME, with frameskip set to 0.

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**Forgotten** · February 22nd, 2003, 00:49

My only guess is that the sound drivers for XP are not acting properly. If you have multiple joysticks plugged, it may be worth a try to unplug them and see if it makes a difference. Someone reported problems when he had two joysticks plugged.

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ready2rumbelX · February 22nd, 2003, 19:54

Hmm....interesting idea. I'm gonna try that, cause I have an EMS USB 2 converter connected, via USB, and a Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad connected via Sound Card...

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ready2rumbelX · February 23rd, 2003, 21:19

Alright, I testes VBA, running Mario Kart as the test subject..

I tested without the Microsoft Pad, I tested it without the Converter and I tested it without both.....still chops. I really do not know what to do. It's not as nice to play when it seems so choppy, when it's on Frameskip 2.....it can't be anything with VBA, could it.....

I'm gonna test a little more. Again, all feedback is appreciated completely! And thanks for your input, Forgotten.

EDIT >> Okay, I got it to work fine...for now. It's really strange HOw I got it to work, though....

You see, it had to do with VSYNC. I turned it off and now it's okay. Before, it was choppy whether VSYNC was ON or OFF.

I'll tell you exactly what I did. I switched my desktop resolution to 1024x768 @ 32bit, and I ran VBA fullscreen @ 1024x768 with VSYNC OFF....it worked just fine! Then I tried it windowed, and it still worked fine! So, I put my desktop resolution back to 1280x1024 @32bit, and ran VBA at 1024x768 fullscreen....it was fine! It's also fine windowed, so.......I really don't know what to think.....the only game that still has some chopping is Tekken Advance, otherwise everything else is fine!

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ackmondual · February 28th, 2003, 06:16

also, from what i noticed, some games have subpar sound emulation, so there may not be much u culd do bout that.

On the otherhand, were u gettin the skipping sound even on frameskip 2? if not u may want to try compromising at frameskip 1 for tekken. Don't kno much bout athlon processors, but your processor may not meet optimum VBA req. (forgot what ehse are). Clockspeed is nice but ain't the processor itself not "top of the line"? Finally, if u do have a fast system try increasing the sound freq. to 44kHZ (better sound quality, more resoruces consumed)

[some1 correct me if any of the previous statments are wrong]

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REi_FoX · February 28th, 2003, 06:55

i think his PC is fast enough

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ready2rumbelX · March 2nd, 2003, 20:34

First off, my PC is just fine and fast enough!......well, for now.

And to answer you, ackmondul, I don't get skipping sound on Frameskip 2, and I don't get it anymore on Frameskip 0. I turn of VSYNC if i'm using any filter besides 'Normal'. I can leave VSNC on if i'm using 'Normal' as the filter.

Now, for Tekken Advance or Medal Of Honour, I put the filter on 'Normal' and it doesn't chop at all on Frameskip 0.

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AMPonzi · March 9th, 2003, 22:48

Some filters are known to have serious slow down problems... I noticed this ever since 1.3 but now I finally got Simple 2x to work without a slowdown using my settings.

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February 19th, 2003, 21:17	#1
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	A small problem, concerning 'Frame Skip'... I'm using VisualBoy Advance v1.4, and when I play any game, it doesn't seem as smooth as it should. So, I was checking my settings when I noticed it was set to 2 on 'Frame Skipping. Now, I set it to 0 and it was SILKY Smooth! But, the sound would pause and jump. The only way I can get smooth sound is with 'Frame Skipping' set to 2. Now, it doesn't matter what sound, or video settings I set it to. I tried this on 2 other machines and it's the same result. So, how can I get VBA to run silky smooth with it set to 0 on 'Frame Skipping' and have good, smooth sound? Thanks alot for the help. ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889)

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February 20th, 2003, 00:57	#2
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 9,354	?? maybe lowering the frequency you are using ould help? like from 44 Khz to 22 Khz......otherwise, i have no idea __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

February 20th, 2003, 01:58	#3
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,649	how about VSYNC __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

February 20th, 2003, 02:08	#4
Yeloazndevil Touka <3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 11,868	try setting priority to Highest __________________ Nintendo Network ID: Yeloazndevil

February 20th, 2003, 02:42	#5
Forgotten Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 483	Try changing the sound synchronization to/from Old Synchronization under the Options->Sound menu. If that doesn't work, I have no other suggestions. Forgotten

February 20th, 2003, 09:36	#6
jegHegy Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Hungary Posts: 2,184	get a faster PC ^^ you could always try closing background apps. nyaa

February 20th, 2003, 21:07	#7
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	My sound is on 22KHZ, and it doesn't matter whether VSYNC is ON or OFF, and i've tried the 'Old Synchronization' mode, but still have the problem....although I haven't tried setting the Priority leve to 'Highest' yet....i'll try it. Thanks for the suggestions/tips, and write down anymore you can. Thanks.. ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889)

February 21st, 2003, 00:34	#8
Forgotten Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 483	One thing I know is that SB Live! drivers were really bad sometime ago, so I would try looking if updated drivers are available.

February 21st, 2003, 09:04	#9
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	Thanks Forgotten. B.T.W, fantastic emulator!! Keep up the brilliant work! As for the SB drivers, I checked the Creative site, and I have the latest drivers for XP. I'll try VBA in ME next. But what makes me think it's something else is the fact that I tried it on 2 other machines, which don't have SB Live!, and it did the same thing. Both machines I tested on are the equivalent of my rig. One machine was using ME, and the other XP. ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889)

February 21st, 2003, 23:09	#10
Forgotten Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 483	Do you have autoframeskip checked or not?

February 21st, 2003, 23:44	#11
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	I do NOT have auto frameskip on. B.T.W, I tested VBA in Win ME. Now, I'm using a BIOS with VBA, so everytime I load a GBA ROM, it shows the BIOS. Now, in XP the BIOS' sound chops, but when I try in Win ME, it doesn't. Now, still in ME, the sound chops rarelly, and the only game where it is bad in both XP and ME is Tekken Advance. Other games I try, like Mario Kart Advance, seems fine in ME, but choppy in XP. I have the identical settings in both XP and ME, with frameskip set to 0. ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889)

February 22nd, 2003, 00:49	#12
Forgotten Emu author Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 483	My only guess is that the sound drivers for XP are not acting properly. If you have multiple joysticks plugged, it may be worth a try to unplug them and see if it makes a difference. Someone reported problems when he had two joysticks plugged. Forgotten

February 22nd, 2003, 19:54	#13
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	Hmm....interesting idea. I'm gonna try that, cause I have an EMS USB 2 converter connected, via USB, and a Microsoft Sidewinder Gamepad connected via Sound Card... ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889)

February 23rd, 2003, 21:19	#14
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	Alright, I testes VBA, running Mario Kart as the test subject.. I tested without the Microsoft Pad, I tested it without the Converter and I tested it without both.....still chops. I really do not know what to do. It's not as nice to play when it seems so choppy, when it's on Frameskip 2.....it can't be anything with VBA, could it..... I'm gonna test a little more. Again, all feedback is appreciated completely! And thanks for your input, Forgotten. EDIT >> Okay, I got it to work fine...for now. It's really strange HOw I got it to work, though.... You see, it had to do with VSYNC. I turned it off and now it's okay. Before, it was choppy whether VSYNC was ON or OFF. I'll tell you exactly what I did. I switched my desktop resolution to 1024x768 @ 32bit, and I ran VBA fullscreen @ 1024x768 with VSYNC OFF....it worked just fine! Then I tried it windowed, and it still worked fine! So, I put my desktop resolution back to 1280x1024 @32bit, and ran VBA at 1024x768 fullscreen....it was fine! It's also fine windowed, so.......I really don't know what to think.....the only game that still has some chopping is Tekken Advance, otherwise everything else is fine! ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889) Last edited by ready2rumbelX; February 24th, 2003 at 19:05..

February 28th, 2003, 06:16	#15
ackmondual Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: U.S.A., Earth Posts: 139	also, from what i noticed, some games have subpar sound emulation, so there may not be much u culd do bout that. On the otherhand, were u gettin the skipping sound even on frameskip 2? if not u may want to try compromising at frameskip 1 for tekken. Don't kno much bout athlon processors, but your processor may not meet optimum VBA req. (forgot what ehse are). Clockspeed is nice but ain't the processor itself not "top of the line"? Finally, if u do have a fast system try increasing the sound freq. to 44kHZ (better sound quality, more resoruces consumed) [some1 correct me if any of the previous statments are wrong] ackmondual __________________ NES --> FCE Ultra \|\| SNES --> ZNES \|\| Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance --> VisualBoy Advance \|\| N64 --> Project 64 General Arcade --> MAME \|\| Capcom Arcade --> Kawaks \|\| NeoGeo --> NeoRage Atari --> ?<can't remember>? \|\| Genesis --> Gens \|\| Game Gear --> Meka \|\| PSX --> ePSXe "Do you know the difference between an error and a mistake? Anyone can make an error, but that error doesn't become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." -Grand Admiral Thrawn Handspring Visor -> Handspring Visor Neo -> PalmOne Zire 71 -> PalmOne Tungsten T3 + Tapwave Zodiac 2

February 28th, 2003, 06:55	#16
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,649	i think his PC is fast enough __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

March 2nd, 2003, 20:34	#17
ready2rumbelX InnarX Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Borderline InSAnE Posts: 2,750	First off, my PC is just fine and fast enough!......well, for now. And to answer you, ackmondul, I don't get skipping sound on Frameskip 2, and I don't get it anymore on Frameskip 0. I turn of VSYNC if i'm using any filter besides 'Normal'. I can leave VSNC on if i'm using 'Normal' as the filter. Now, for Tekken Advance or Medal Of Honour, I put the filter on 'Normal' and it doesn't chop at all on Frameskip 0. ready2rumbelX __________________ ___________________________________________ -Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.8Ghz -MSi Big Bang X-Power Mobo -6GB Corsair Dominator GT -MSI GTX 680 2GB -Windows 8 (x64) + Linux Mint Debian Edition (x64) -Realtek HD (ALC889)

March 9th, 2003, 22:48	#18
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