i can't disside....

SanDRocK · September 30th, 2002, 00:51

I can't Desside what 2 get, i'm gettin a new computer, but i can't desside which to go with, P4 1.8GHz or a Athlon XP 2100+ either way i'm goin with just DDRPC2100 ram
any suggestions on which would be betteR?

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**Kane** · September 30th, 2002, 00:55

Athlon XP. No contest.

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caipirinha · September 30th, 2002, 01:22

athlon xp

pentium

Ninjaa · September 30th, 2002, 02:00

Athlon XP. Given the clock speeds you have decided on, the Athlon XP gives you more bang for your buck. Especially since you are going with DDR memory. It works better with the Athlons.

ToM_E · September 30th, 2002, 02:36

Athlon XP. And Ill give you 3 reasons why you should get Athlon XP
1.Its an Athlon
2.Its an Athlon
3.Its an Athlon
There you go. Hope that helped.

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SanDRocK · September 30th, 2002, 03:23

well the xp 2100+ runs at 1733MHz and the p4 was a 1.8 but i was leading 2wards the XP anyway, since i've had nothin but good things from AMD in the past

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Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset
Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam
HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM
GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD
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Faster than a Burning Bud,
More Powerfull than a hit from a bong,
Able to eat huge amounts of snacks,
Look through the smoke..
Its a skunk......
Its a grassfire......
Its....
Its....
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dogulation000 · September 30th, 2002, 03:29

It depends. If you used AMD for a long time, why not? But Athlons do have their quirks.

SanDRocK · September 30th, 2002, 03:32

1 more question...
would i get any performance incress goin with a MOBO based on the KT333 chipset if i'm only usein 266DDr ram?
or would i get the same performance with a KT266 chip>?

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OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit
CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT
Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset
Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam
HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM
GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD
Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound
Faster than a Burning Bud,
More Powerfull than a hit from a bong,
Able to eat huge amounts of snacks,
Look through the smoke..
Its a skunk......
Its a grassfire......
Its....
Its....
GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

**Demigod** · September 30th, 2002, 03:36

There's no benefit of getting a KT333 chipset if you're only going to be using 266 Mhz DDR SDRAM. Save some money and get a cheap KT266a board instead. I would go with the Athlon XP as well in your situation (unless you overclock the P4

).

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dogulation000 · September 30th, 2002, 03:59

It depends on what you need. If you want to make sure that EVERYTHING is compatible, want to overclock, P4 is a bit better.

But if you don't plan to overclock, and used AMD products before, AMD is a better choice.

September 30th, 2002, 05:11

Definately go with the Athlon 2100+ It may run at a slower actual ghz than the P4 1.8 ghz but due to it's architecture, it out performs comparable 2.1 ghz CPUs and will leave the P4 1.8 in the dust (so to speak). I have an Athlon XP 2000+ on an ECS motherboard and I couldn't be happier with it. Athlon all the way.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Unicron · September 30th, 2002, 05:53

Quote:

Originally posted by sxamiga
Definately go with the Athlon 2100+ It may run at a slower actual ghz than the P4 1.8 ghz but due to it's architecture, it out performs comparable 2.1 ghz CPUs and will leave the P4 1.8 in the dust (so to speak). I have an Athlon XP 2000+ on an ECS motherboard and I couldn't be happier with it. Athlon all the way.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

HERE! HERE! I can also give testament to the ecs mobo's try the ECS K7S5A since it will support that cpu and the pc 2100 memory and it is about $50 at pricewatch.com (after shipping)

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September 30th, 2002, 06:12

k7s5a is a good bord. If you don't mind the SiS chipset, We have two of those boards at this house, and they perform well.

SanDRocK · September 30th, 2002, 14:50

well i'm goin with the AMD sys i'm picking it up after work
thx for the input guys / girls hehe

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GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD
Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound
Faster than a Burning Bud,
More Powerfull than a hit from a bong,
Able to eat huge amounts of snacks,
Look through the smoke..
Its a skunk......
Its a grassfire......
Its....
Its....
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_E_ · September 30th, 2002, 15:21

girls,...are there girls in this forum? i doubt it,. and if there is, there ll be only 1 or 2 , rest are all guys

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Hanamichi · September 30th, 2002, 15:40

Do get more fans for your Athlon though. To ensure longer life span.

Off topic but there were girls on this forum, and I believe not anymore. Lets just say a community of thorns scare away the roses.

Unicron · September 30th, 2002, 19:22

I don't think it was mentioned that there is also some degree of overclockability with that mobo but due to the higher temps that will likely be generated it is not usually suggested since you will not get all that much performance gain compared to the amount of wear that will be put on the cpu

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September 30th, 2002, 20:02

For your CPU, whether or not you over clock it (I wouldn't suggest it) might I suggest you purchase a Thermaltake heat sink and fan?
I purchased one when I got my Athlon XP 2000+ and I don't regret it one bit. It keeps my CPU nice and cool. The fan and heat sink I have is the Thermaltake Volcano 7. Also, glad to hear that you are going to go w/the Athlon XP CPU. I can assure you, you won't be disappointed.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

caipirinha · September 30th, 2002, 20:36

i second sxamiga suggestion me and my friend used thermaltake volcanos and they keep the processor nice and fresh.

dogulation000 · September 30th, 2002, 21:27

You should definitely buy extra cooling if you get a AMD Athlon.

September 30th, 2002, 00:51	#1
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	i can't disside.... I can't Desside what 2 get, i'm gettin a new computer, but i can't desside which to go with, P4 1.8GHz or a Athlon XP 2100+ either way i'm goin with just DDRPC2100 ram any suggestions on which would be betteR? __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

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September 30th, 2002, 00:55	#2
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Athlon XP. No contest. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

September 30th, 2002, 01:22	#3
caipirinha Change your heart Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,989	athlon xp pentium

September 30th, 2002, 02:00	#4
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	Athlon XP. Given the clock speeds you have decided on, the Athlon XP gives you more bang for your buck. Especially since you are going with DDR memory. It works better with the Athlons.

September 30th, 2002, 02:36	#5
ToM_E 8+ Years Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Over The Rainbow Posts: 2,796	Athlon XP. And Ill give you 3 reasons why you should get Athlon XP 1.Its an Athlon 2.Its an Athlon 3.Its an Athlon There you go. Hope that helped. __________________ Intel Q9550 @ 4.00 Ghz Xigmatek Dark Knight G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 533 GIGABYTE EP45-UD3P Hitachi 1TB Samsung 1TB LG 20X DVD-RW (SATA) Lancool K62W EVGA GTX 275 Corsair 750TX Scythe Kaze Master Ace Windows 7 x64

September 30th, 2002, 03:23	#6
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	well the xp 2100+ runs at 1733MHz and the p4 was a 1.8 but i was leading 2wards the XP anyway, since i've had nothin but good things from AMD in the past __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

September 30th, 2002, 03:29	#7
dogulation000 The Upcoming Rookie Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 620	It depends. If you used AMD for a long time, why not? But Athlons do have their quirks.

September 30th, 2002, 03:32	#8
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	1 more question... would i get any performance incress goin with a MOBO based on the KT333 chipset if i'm only usein 266DDr ram? or would i get the same performance with a KT266 chip>? __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

September 30th, 2002, 03:36	#9
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,331	There's no benefit of getting a KT333 chipset if you're only going to be using 266 Mhz DDR SDRAM. Save some money and get a cheap KT266a board instead. I would go with the Athlon XP as well in your situation (unless you overclock the P4 ). __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

September 30th, 2002, 03:59	#10
dogulation000 The Upcoming Rookie Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 620	It depends on what you need. If you want to make sure that EVERYTHING is compatible, want to overclock, P4 is a bit better. But if you don't plan to overclock, and used AMD products before, AMD is a better choice.

September 30th, 2002, 05:11	#11
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Definately go with the Athlon 2100+ It may run at a slower actual ghz than the P4 1.8 ghz but due to it's architecture, it out performs comparable 2.1 ghz CPUs and will leave the P4 1.8 in the dust (so to speak). I have an Athlon XP 2000+ on an ECS motherboard and I couldn't be happier with it. Athlon all the way. sincerely, sx/amiga

September 30th, 2002, 06:12	#13
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	k7s5a is a good bord. If you don't mind the SiS chipset, We have two of those boards at this house, and they perform well.

September 30th, 2002, 14:50	#14
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	well i'm goin with the AMD sys i'm picking it up after work thx for the input guys / girls hehe __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

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September 30th, 2002, 15:40	#16
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,580	Do get more fans for your Athlon though. To ensure longer life span. Off topic but there were girls on this forum, and I believe not anymore. Lets just say a community of thorns scare away the roses.

September 30th, 2002, 19:22	#17
Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,829	I don't think it was mentioned that there is also some degree of overclockability with that mobo but due to the higher temps that will likely be generated it is not usually suggested since you will not get all that much performance gain compared to the amount of wear that will be put on the cpu __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

September 30th, 2002, 20:02	#18
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	For your CPU, whether or not you over clock it (I wouldn't suggest it) might I suggest you purchase a Thermaltake heat sink and fan? I purchased one when I got my Athlon XP 2000+ and I don't regret it one bit. It keeps my CPU nice and cool. The fan and heat sink I have is the Thermaltake Volcano 7. Also, glad to hear that you are going to go w/the Athlon XP CPU. I can assure you, you won't be disappointed. sincerely, sx/amiga

September 30th, 2002, 20:36	#19
caipirinha Change your heart Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,989	i second sxamiga suggestion me and my friend used thermaltake volcanos and they keep the processor nice and fresh.

September 30th, 2002, 21:27	#20
dogulation000 The Upcoming Rookie Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 620	You should definitely buy extra cooling if you get a AMD Athlon.