Epsxe and Video Cards

Wind30 · September 18th, 2002, 01:40

Here's a question for all you lurkers, posters, and whatnot. I'm curious to know what would be the best video card to use with Epsxe (and I guess everything in general).

Now I know that everyone has different computer configurations, be they Frankenstein type boxes or ones the bought from Gateway or Compaq. but I want to know what video card offers the best picture, the best stability, the best, well, everything for use with Epsxe in general and everything else in a broad scope.

I have a 1 gig Duron chip, an 8KHA board with 384 megs of DDR ram, and a real ATI Radeon 7200 with 32 megs of SDRAM, running at 4x AGP. (I know there are others like Powercolor that is 'Powered By' ATI.)

The graphics aren't the best in EpsxE, the colors are alright and it runs rather well with most newer games (NWN, HOMM 4, etc.)

I would give my card a 7.5/8 out of 10 for overall goodness.

I know we can do different tweaks and settings and different GPU plugins, but again, I'm just curious to know what VIDEO HARDWARE people use with Epsxe.

Thank you for your support.

Wind

ps: If this gets moved, my apologies to the forum staff for not putting this in the right spot, but I felt it went into EpsxE discussion.

**cooliscool** · September 18th, 2002, 01:58

geforce4 mx 420, pete's opengl. full speed and sound in all my games @ 800x600x32 quincunx fsaa.

9.8 out of 10 for overall goodness, only bad thing is no pixel/vertex shaders, not a big deal, my k6-2 couldn't handle em anyway.

Phoenix · September 18th, 2002, 03:46

a ancient TNT2 M64 which I really want to upgrade, playable, but I miss FSAA, pixel/vertex shaders and all those amazing features of powerfull GF4 Ti series. Just ask to the proud owners of GF4 Ti 4600

September 18th, 2002, 05:47

Phoenix, funny you should mention "proud" owners of GF4 TI 4600 cards. I just happen to be one.
Wind30, the two top of the line video cards out right now are the Radeon 9700 (1st) and the GF4 TI 4600 (2nd). I have a GF TI 4600 made by Vision Tek. I using the Nvidia Detonator 40.41 drivers and a neat little Tweak Utility called aTuner. I run *X Anisotropic filtering in both D3D and OGL, 4x9tap FSAA for OGL and 4xS for D3D. For overall goodness I would rate this card 10/10 . It truly is a top of the line card. Here is a screenshot from NWN to show how nice it looks.
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Snu · September 18th, 2002, 07:37

I’ve got a Radeon VE, which is one of the slower cards which can manage ePSXe with a reasonable amount of graphical enhancement. It’s a good choice if you’ve only got $20 to spend. I can get 2x antialiasing, 2xSaI, and screen smoothing at 60 FPS at 640x480 in some games. In others I have to turn off one or another of those.

I’m all for hearing about the less well known cards, like the Kyros and Matrox cards, and about the recent ATI stuff. I’m thinking about getting a new card, and ATI and Matrox’ multimonitor compatibility has been a bit better for me than NVidia’s.

TalkingANUS · September 18th, 2002, 07:48

I heard the 3dfx Voodoo cards are very good with emulated PSX games, if you use Lewpy's glide plugin. The anti-aliasing is better than current GeForce 4's.
But they aren't very good with new PC games..
I would recommend the GeForce4 Ti series, very good image quality + performance.

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**Kane** · September 18th, 2002, 08:25

A Voodoo 5 PCI is the best card. As long as you pair it with a b****in CPU, it'll do the bizness.
If you want it to play new PC games tho, you is probs outta luck.
A GeForce 3 or 4Ti would be a better choice in that case.

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ct1 · September 18th, 2002, 18:15

I'm still using Voodoo 5 PCI (xp1800+) and play all the psx games in 800x600x32 with 4xfsaa (PC 2xfsaa), but I'm also realist and know that this card won't last for much longer. Graphic quality is simply superb.

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Wind30 · September 18th, 2002, 18:31

It doesn't come as any big surprise to me when I read over these posts how you all use older and sometimes unsupported video cards, like the Voodoo 5. I guess it just goes to show you, as long as the card works fine as is, there's no reason to go off and buy a brand new one. Is it any concidence that a video card is the most expensive component to buy these days? I mean yeah, the Audigy bundle is up there, but a video card is worth more than a darn motherboard!

I was looking to upgrade my 7200, maybe get a 7500? Or do you think I should save my money for something else? Geforce? Kyros? Does it really matter to get a few more frames and a little brighter color? I can see already that for playing Epsxe, it doesn't really matter.

Wind

Esturk · September 18th, 2002, 18:50

900Mhz Celeron, 256Mb PC133 SDRAM, Voodoo 3 2000 with Lewpy's 3dfx/Glide³ GPU 1.39, Sound Blaster 16 PCI with Eternal SPU Plugin 1.30 and Creative 52x CDROM with ePSXe CDR WNT/W2K core 1.5.2. Works splendid.

Oh Wind30, if you're going to upgrade get a Radeon 9700 or a GeForce 4 TI4600.

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ct1 · September 18th, 2002, 18:52

Hej, I tell you one thing: you buy what you can afford.

With 9700 out prices of 8500 are already low and the card is very good (have one myself). Why don't you check it out.

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**fivefeet8** · September 18th, 2002, 19:00

I use my voodoo 5 pci for psx and n64 emulation.. My geforce 4 ti 4600 is for Current pc games.. Although the thought of a Nv30 is currently on my horrizon..

To Sxamiga: I deleted your double post..

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Wind30 · September 18th, 2002, 19:25

ct, your advice is something I always take to heart when buying new equipment, but lately I find myself hesitating to buy things because of what I hear on forums about it.

I always scour this forum to see what problems people are having or what hardware they're discussing about. I also visit the Rage3d forums to hear what people say about their cards. I wanted to buy a 7500 but looking at the Radeon 7500 forums, almost everyone hates the card! But it's cheap, has 128 megs of DDR ram, shouldn't it be good? Or the 8500, which everyone swears on, but again, complain, complain. Like in Neverwinter Nights, I've never seen so many people complaining over patch fixes like these guys, which makes me leery to get the patches in the first place.

So which is why I started this thread, to see what people have, what they like, what they don't like, and make a comparison there.

Phoenix · September 18th, 2002, 19:46

Quote:

Originally posted by sxamiga
Phoenix, funny you should mention "proud" owners of GF4 TI 4600 cards. I just happen to be one.

so, aren't you proud of your card, satisfied, happy. That's what I meant

With the GF4 Ti 4600 and the Radeon 9700 the games and movies look awesome.

September 18th, 2002, 20:01

Thanks fivefeet8. It was late and I wasn't sure if it had double posted or not. I don't usally do that.
Phoenix, yes, I know what you ment. That is why I said, I happen to be one. Yes, I am proud, haapy, and very satisfied w/my card.
But, like Lord Kane, I may be considering an NV30 when it cimes out. It all depends on what it will do and if it is THAT (caps for emphasis, not shouting) much better than the GF4 TI 4600 that i now have. Oly time will tell.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**Kane** · September 18th, 2002, 20:36

According to many sources, the pure specs for the NV30 are astounding, let alone what they have done to the entire rendering pipeline, but like Sxamiga, I will wait and see if it lives upto the hype.
Until such a time, the Radeon should hold you over. If your driver issues are really so bad you need a different card to hold you over, a GeForce 2/4 MX will do the business, they are quite powerful cards, and unless you need pixel shading, they will to the job.

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**Demigod** · September 18th, 2002, 21:20

I'm going to try to save up for a Radeon 9700 or maybe pick up a Radeon 9000. Some of the computers at my school have a Radeon 7000 and the image quality is astounding. It's a lot crisper and cleaner than my display at home. The NV30 sounds interesting but a lot of the features are beyond the DX9 specs so I'm skepticle of their worth. Although both Nvidia and MS are working on Cg the MS Windows version will probably be standardized and it'll be built around DX9. If Nvidia improves their 2D image quality and implements smarter anisotropic filtering then I might consider the NV30 but I've owned 2 Nvidia cards in the past and I'm kinda sick of them. My next card will definitely be an ATI card.

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Badaro · September 18th, 2002, 22:27

I have played ePSXe with two video cards:

* 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 AGP - 8/10

Image quality was amazing with Lewpy's plugin, so-so with Pete's D3D. Framerates were pretty decent too. I would probably have kept this card for another six months if there were updated drivers for XP.

* ATI Radeon 8500 128MB - 9/10

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Esturk · September 18th, 2002, 23:54

The drivers I use with my Voodoo 3 under Windows xp are excellent for emulation. Colors are bright, everything is smooth. As for playing new PC games.... I don't even try. Games aren't designed for Glide anymore. Patches? No thanks. I'll just get a GeForce or a Radeon if I want to play new PC games. It's nice that Diablo 2 has support for Glide. I just bought it.

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_E_ · September 19th, 2002, 00:15

A Radeon 7000 or above / Geforce II and above can easily handle epsxe

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September 18th, 2002, 01:40	#1
Wind30 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Under the bed... Posts: 62	Epsxe and Video Cards Here's a question for all you lurkers, posters, and whatnot. I'm curious to know what would be the best video card to use with Epsxe (and I guess everything in general). Now I know that everyone has different computer configurations, be they Frankenstein type boxes or ones the bought from Gateway or Compaq. but I want to know what video card offers the best picture, the best stability, the best, well, everything for use with Epsxe in general and everything else in a broad scope. I have a 1 gig Duron chip, an 8KHA board with 384 megs of DDR ram, and a real ATI Radeon 7200 with 32 megs of SDRAM, running at 4x AGP. (I know there are others like Powercolor that is 'Powered By' ATI.) The graphics aren't the best in EpsxE, the colors are alright and it runs rather well with most newer games (NWN, HOMM 4, etc.) I would give my card a 7.5/8 out of 10 for overall goodness. I know we can do different tweaks and settings and different GPU plugins, but again, I'm just curious to know what VIDEO HARDWARE people use with Epsxe. Thank you for your support. Wind ps: If this gets moved, my apologies to the forum staff for not putting this in the right spot, but I felt it went into EpsxE discussion.

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September 18th, 2002, 01:58	#2
cooliscool Global Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: SC, USA Posts: 7,231	geforce4 mx 420, pete's opengl. full speed and sound in all my games @ 800x600x32 quincunx fsaa. 9.8 out of 10 for overall goodness, only bad thing is no pixel/vertex shaders, not a big deal, my k6-2 couldn't handle em anyway.

September 18th, 2002, 03:46	#3
Phoenix Ada... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: GDL, MX Posts: 2,229	a ancient TNT2 M64 which I really want to upgrade, playable, but I miss FSAA, pixel/vertex shaders and all those amazing features of powerfull GF4 Ti series. Just ask to the proud owners of GF4 Ti 4600

September 18th, 2002, 07:37	#5
Snu Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Seattle Posts: 116	I’ve got a Radeon VE, which is one of the slower cards which can manage ePSXe with a reasonable amount of graphical enhancement. It’s a good choice if you’ve only got $20 to spend. I can get 2x antialiasing, 2xSaI, and screen smoothing at 60 FPS at 640x480 in some games. In others I have to turn off one or another of those. I’m all for hearing about the less well known cards, like the Kyros and Matrox cards, and about the recent ATI stuff. I’m thinking about getting a new card, and ATI and Matrox’ multimonitor compatibility has been a bit better for me than NVidia’s.

September 18th, 2002, 07:48	#6
TalkingANUS talks a lot of $hit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 741	I heard the 3dfx Voodoo cards are very good with emulated PSX games, if you use Lewpy's glide plugin. The anti-aliasing is better than current GeForce 4's. But they aren't very good with new PC games.. I would recommend the GeForce4 Ti series, very good image quality + performance. __________________ .:System Specs:. ::Core 2 Duo E6400 \| 1GB RAM \| Radeon X1950 Pro:: Why am I dying to live if I'm just living to die

September 18th, 2002, 08:25	#7
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	A Voodoo 5 PCI is the best card. As long as you pair it with a b****in CPU, it'll do the bizness. If you want it to play new PC games tho, you is probs outta luck. A GeForce 3 or 4Ti would be a better choice in that case. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

September 18th, 2002, 18:15	#8
ct1 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: CT Posts: 15	I'm still using Voodoo 5 PCI (xp1800+) and play all the psx games in 800x600x32 with 4xfsaa (PC 2xfsaa), but I'm also realist and know that this card won't last for much longer. Graphic quality is simply superb. __________________ Despair - To be forgoten is worse than death...

September 18th, 2002, 18:31	#9
Wind30 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Under the bed... Posts: 62	It doesn't come as any big surprise to me when I read over these posts how you all use older and sometimes unsupported video cards, like the Voodoo 5. I guess it just goes to show you, as long as the card works fine as is, there's no reason to go off and buy a brand new one. Is it any concidence that a video card is the most expensive component to buy these days? I mean yeah, the Audigy bundle is up there, but a video card is worth more than a darn motherboard! I was looking to upgrade my 7200, maybe get a 7500? Or do you think I should save my money for something else? Geforce? Kyros? Does it really matter to get a few more frames and a little brighter color? I can see already that for playing Epsxe, it doesn't really matter. Wind

September 18th, 2002, 18:50	#10
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,964	900Mhz Celeron, 256Mb PC133 SDRAM, Voodoo 3 2000 with Lewpy's 3dfx/Glide³ GPU 1.39, Sound Blaster 16 PCI with Eternal SPU Plugin 1.30 and Creative 52x CDROM with ePSXe CDR WNT/W2K core 1.5.2. Works splendid. Oh Wind30, if you're going to upgrade get a Radeon 9700 or a GeForce 4 TI4600. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition SP1 \| Intel Core i5 2500K - 3.30GHz, 8MB L3 Cache \| Asus P8P67 Deluxe, Intel P67 Chipset, Socket 1155 \| 8GB Kingston PC3-10600 DDR3 \| Nvidia GeForce GTX460, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500HLFS, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD1001FALS, 1000GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

September 18th, 2002, 18:52	#11
ct1 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: CT Posts: 15	Hej, I tell you one thing: you buy what you can afford. With 9700 out prices of 8500 are already low and the card is very good (have one myself). Why don't you check it out. __________________ Despair - To be forgoten is worse than death...

September 18th, 2002, 19:00	#12
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 8,058	I use my voodoo 5 pci for psx and n64 emulation.. My geforce 4 ti 4600 is for Current pc games.. Although the thought of a Nv30 is currently on my horrizon.. To Sxamiga: I deleted your double post.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel i7 2600k @4.4 ghz\|2x4 gb DDR3 1600\|Asrock Extreme7 Gen3\|EVGA GTX670 2GB\|EVGA GTX460 PhysX\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\| OCZ 240GB SSD SATA3 \|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Rosewill 1000 Watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/10" Sub\|Windows 7 64bit Ultimate\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition Last edited by fivefeet8; September 18th, 2002 at 19:47..

September 18th, 2002, 19:25	#13
Wind30 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Under the bed... Posts: 62	ct, your advice is something I always take to heart when buying new equipment, but lately I find myself hesitating to buy things because of what I hear on forums about it. I always scour this forum to see what problems people are having or what hardware they're discussing about. I also visit the Rage3d forums to hear what people say about their cards. I wanted to buy a 7500 but looking at the Radeon 7500 forums, almost everyone hates the card! But it's cheap, has 128 megs of DDR ram, shouldn't it be good? Or the 8500, which everyone swears on, but again, complain, complain. Like in Neverwinter Nights, I've never seen so many people complaining over patch fixes like these guys, which makes me leery to get the patches in the first place. So which is why I started this thread, to see what people have, what they like, what they don't like, and make a comparison there.

September 18th, 2002, 20:01	#15
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks fivefeet8. It was late and I wasn't sure if it had double posted or not. I don't usally do that. Phoenix, yes, I know what you ment. That is why I said, I happen to be one. Yes, I am proud, haapy, and very satisfied w/my card. But, like Lord Kane, I may be considering an NV30 when it cimes out. It all depends on what it will do and if it is THAT (caps for emphasis, not shouting) much better than the GF4 TI 4600 that i now have. Oly time will tell. sincerely, sx/amiga

September 18th, 2002, 20:36	#16
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	According to many sources, the pure specs for the NV30 are astounding, let alone what they have done to the entire rendering pipeline, but like Sxamiga, I will wait and see if it lives upto the hype. Until such a time, the Radeon should hold you over. If your driver issues are really so bad you need a different card to hold you over, a GeForce 2/4 MX will do the business, they are quite powerful cards, and unless you need pixel shading, they will to the job. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

September 18th, 2002, 21:20	#17
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 6,332	I'm going to try to save up for a Radeon 9700 or maybe pick up a Radeon 9000. Some of the computers at my school have a Radeon 7000 and the image quality is astounding. It's a lot crisper and cleaner than my display at home. The NV30 sounds interesting but a lot of the features are beyond the DX9 specs so I'm skepticle of their worth. Although both Nvidia and MS are working on Cg the MS Windows version will probably be standardized and it'll be built around DX9. If Nvidia improves their 2D image quality and implements smarter anisotropic filtering then I might consider the NV30 but I've owned 2 Nvidia cards in the past and I'm kinda sick of them. My next card will definitely be an ATI card. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 4096 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 120 GB OCZ RevoDrive PCI-E SSD & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt PSU OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit) Proud millionaire folder of the NGEmu folding team

September 18th, 2002, 22:27	#18
Badaro I'm in despair! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,419	I have played ePSXe with two video cards: * 3DFX Voodoo 3 3000 AGP - 8/10 Image quality was amazing with Lewpy's plugin, so-so with Pete's D3D. Framerates were pretty decent too. I would probably have kept this card for another six months if there were updated drivers for XP. * ATI Radeon 8500 128MB - 9/10 Excellent image quality, actually much better then I expected. Pretty fast, and no major game issues so far. []s Badaro __________________ Tales Collection Super Robot Taisen Collection

September 18th, 2002, 23:54	#19
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,964	The drivers I use with my Voodoo 3 under Windows xp are excellent for emulation. Colors are bright, everything is smooth. As for playing new PC games.... I don't even try. Games aren't designed for Glide anymore. Patches? No thanks. I'll just get a GeForce or a Radeon if I want to play new PC games. It's nice that Diablo 2 has support for Glide. I just bought it. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition SP1 \| Intel Core i5 2500K - 3.30GHz, 8MB L3 Cache \| Asus P8P67 Deluxe, Intel P67 Chipset, Socket 1155 \| 8GB Kingston PC3-10600 DDR3 \| Nvidia GeForce GTX460, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500HLFS, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD1001FALS, 1000GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

September 19th, 2002, 00:15	#20
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Gone Posts: 9,354	A Radeon 7000 or above / Geforce II and above can easily handle epsxe __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith