AMD(ATi) VS nVidia 2012 - Page 4

DarkSamus · May 12th, 2012, 00:48

I think I will stick to my GTX580...

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 12th, 2012, 00:52

And so you should.

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**fivefeet8** · May 13th, 2012, 03:18

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Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Whilst it's stronger than a GTX580 I'm not sure I'd call it a sufficient jump for any GTX570 owners so I'd hold off on that if I were you, or get a GTX680.

Under the games I play and the settings I use, I'd see about 30-40% increase in performance. That's like going from 42 fps to 60 fps. Also, I can sell my gtx570 for $200.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 13th, 2012, 03:20

Ok yeah, that would be quite the nice jump then.

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**fivefeet8** · May 16th, 2012, 17:31

Big Kepler for GPGPU.

http://smooth-las-akam.istreamplanet...d1/player.html

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psicomaniaco · May 16th, 2012, 19:02

ATI for me. I find the Radeon cards a LOT more stable than Nvidia's.

Also, ATI cards are more compatible with older games.

EDIT: But the 3Dfx Voodoo cards still live in my heart. I still have a Voodoo 3 card on my Pentium 3 500 for my classic games needs!

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 16th, 2012, 20:59

Wut? The opposite of those is true in my experience. I've come across quite a few games with help threads for ATi users, no such thing for nVidia.
And you mentioned old games, Wing Commander - Darkest Dawn fanmade game based on the Freespace 2 engine constantly has people with ATi cards experiencing issues.

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Xblade · June 19th, 2012, 10:55

So I got a gtx 460 for 83$ brand new on ebay to replace my radeon 4850.

Spoiler:

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Phil · June 20th, 2012, 07:19

Enjoy Cuda and the better drivers

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Strike105X · June 20th, 2012, 12:27

Personally now days i gotta say drivers wise there just about the same :P.

I'm liking ATi even more ever since i got the 6850 (thanks to Phil) XD.

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Xblade · June 21st, 2012, 00:34

^Thats the card I originally ordered, It was only 115$. The super geniuses at fed ex told me they couldn't find my address even though I've had every other service deliver to my doorstep already. The genius seller asked for it to be returned like 10 minutes after they said they couldn't find the address--drama negotiations, seller fail etc. If they didn't throw in that extra 10$ refunding me I would of torn up their review page.

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Phil · June 21st, 2012, 03:41

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Personally now days i gotta say drivers wise there just about the same :P.

I'm liking ATi even more ever since i got the 6850 (thanks to Phil) XD.

Heh they are about the same. But finding old drivers is a complete pain with ATI, while it's super easy with nVidia.

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Kaizen · June 21st, 2012, 05:53

I have my 7750 now, nvidia seems to have no viable alternative that met my desires.

The 7750 at load is 50 celcius (I have a non reference model), it draws less power than the 4670 and is factory overclocked from 800 to 880mhz. I can see me having this card until it breaks ...even when I upgrade I'd still keep it or throw it in a family members computer. Great card and the extra flexibility is worth the 10-20% slower speed than the 6850

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Strike105X · June 21st, 2012, 07:44

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Heh they are about the same. But finding old drivers is a complete pain with ATI, while it's super easy with nVidia.

Why is it a pain ? You can download them without problem of their site, plus i don't know how its with NVIDIA but with ati you don't need old drivers, fixes carry over, at max you might want to role back to a previous version in case there's a certain bug with a certain game in a new release, but that's not hard either. The only time when ati needed older drivers was when there where opengl problems, but now that's history. Or do you by chance mean support for older models ? In that case it might prove a bit more difficult.

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I have my 7750 now, nvidia seems to have no viable alternative that met my desires.

The 7750 at load is 50 celcius (I have a non reference model), it draws less power than the 4670 and is factory overclocked from 800 to 880mhz. I can see me having this card until it breaks ...even when I upgrade I'd still keep it or throw it in a family members computer. Great card and the extra flexibility is worth the 10-20% slower speed than the 6850

Congrats XD.

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^Thats the card I originally ordered, It was only 115$. The super geniuses at fed ex told me they couldn't find my address even though I've had every other service deliver to my doorstep already. The genius seller asked for it to be returned like 10 minutes after they said they couldn't find the address--drama negotiations, seller fail etc. If they didn't throw in that extra 10$ refunding me I would of torn up their review page.

Ouch...

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Princess Garnet · June 21st, 2012, 18:17

He probably means for older models. AMD is dropping support for the Radeon HD 4000 series (mid 2008) soon, but nVidia still supports way back to the GeForce 6 series (early-mid 2004). Granted, the older cards probably aren't actually having anything done for them, but you can just download the latest and go unless you have more ancient stuff, and even then you still download and go as the selector will tell and take you to the latest one that works. My parent's have a Radeon X1550 I bought for their OEM a few years back (2008 or so?), and I wouldn't be able to with them now (though they probably just use the stock Windows 7 drivers and know nothing of such stuff). I haven't been on AMD's site for drivers but nVidia has an archive for all of their older ones.

Also, yes, fixes obviously carry over.

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Strike105X · June 21st, 2012, 18:33

Actually not quite, AMD dropped support for HD4000 only for Linux and they did not offer it for windows 8 (something to do with WDDM driver versions), otherwise for 7/vista/XP they still are in the making.

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DaMan · June 21st, 2012, 23:41

The pre Radeon HD cards got 3 quarterly driver updates after being going legacy so going by their track record support will be dropped in a year. Not releasing 12.5 which was last update until the next quarterly driver puts them off to a bad start.

Strike105X · June 22nd, 2012, 07:10

Well i don't know what's going to happen but atm there's not completly cut of support, that's all i'm saying. Only for Linux and Windows 8, with that said, i can sort of understand HD2k, but for HD3k/HD4k it feels way to soon to drop support even on linux, never mind not supporting on windows 8...

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etracecar · August 3rd, 2012, 20:11

GTX 690 and soon ROG MARS III will creme AMD

Phil · August 5th, 2012, 11:13

Well Keplar cards are bandwidth starved versus AMD. A 6GB 7990 will be a better card than a Mars 3 and 690 (Both 4GB, 256bit) for an eyefinity setup running texture heavy games such as battlefield 3.

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May 12th, 2012, 00:48	#61
DarkSamus PC game modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: Mail You Dummy _______________________ Posts: 5,904	I think I will stick to my GTX580... __________________ Do you play PC RE5, RE6 or SSF4AE but hate that the button mappings uses XBOX360 buttons? Try my Resident Evil 5, Resident Evil 6 or Super Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition Playstation button mods! As far as handhelds go, well, I get the Nintendo one. Because I'm not an idiot.

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SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,416	And so you should. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 13th, 2012, 03:20	#64
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,416	Ok yeah, that would be quite the nice jump then. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 16th, 2012, 17:31	#65
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May 16th, 2012, 19:02	#66
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brasil Posts: 1,726	ATI for me. I find the Radeon cards a LOT more stable than Nvidia's. Also, ATI cards are more compatible with older games. EDIT: But the 3Dfx Voodoo cards still live in my heart. I still have a Voodoo 3 card on my Pentium 3 500 for my classic games needs! __________________

May 16th, 2012, 20:59	#67
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,416	Wut? The opposite of those is true in my experience. I've come across quite a few games with help threads for ATi users, no such thing for nVidia. And you mentioned old games, Wing Commander - Darkest Dawn fanmade game based on the Freespace 2 engine constantly has people with ATi cards experiencing issues. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

June 20th, 2012, 07:19	#69
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	Enjoy Cuda and the better drivers __________________ Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others

June 20th, 2012, 12:27	#70
Strike105X ヒットハード＆高速 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aincrad Posts: 13,702	Personally now days i gotta say drivers wise there just about the same :P. I'm liking ATi even more ever since i got the 6850 (thanks to Phil) XD. __________________ DeviantArt\|AnimeList\|PC Config

June 21st, 2012, 00:34	#71
Xblade Eating your Future Join Date: May 2008 Location: The Shadow Realm. Posts: 8,115	^Thats the card I originally ordered, It was only 115$. The super geniuses at fed ex told me they couldn't find my address even though I've had every other service deliver to my doorstep already. The genius seller asked for it to be returned like 10 minutes after they said they couldn't find the address--drama negotiations, seller fail etc. If they didn't throw in that extra 10$ refunding me I would of torn up their review page. __________________

June 21st, 2012, 05:53	#73
Kaizen John Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,516	I have my 7750 now, nvidia seems to have no viable alternative that met my desires. The 7750 at load is 50 celcius (I have a non reference model), it draws less power than the 4670 and is factory overclocked from 800 to 880mhz. I can see me having this card until it breaks ...even when I upgrade I'd still keep it or throw it in a family members computer. Great card and the extra flexibility is worth the 10-20% slower speed than the 6850 __________________ OCHRE YELLOW.

June 21st, 2012, 18:17	#75
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	He probably means for older models. AMD is dropping support for the Radeon HD 4000 series (mid 2008) soon, but nVidia still supports way back to the GeForce 6 series (early-mid 2004). Granted, the older cards probably aren't actually having anything done for them, but you can just download the latest and go unless you have more ancient stuff, and even then you still download and go as the selector will tell and take you to the latest one that works. My parent's have a Radeon X1550 I bought for their OEM a few years back (2008 or so?), and I wouldn't be able to with them now (though they probably just use the stock Windows 7 drivers and know nothing of such stuff). I haven't been on AMD's site for drivers but nVidia has an archive for all of their older ones. Also, yes, fixes obviously carry over. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

June 21st, 2012, 18:33	#76
Strike105X ヒットハード＆高速 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aincrad Posts: 13,702	Actually not quite, AMD dropped support for HD4000 only for Linux and they did not offer it for windows 8 (something to do with WDDM driver versions), otherwise for 7/vista/XP they still are in the making. __________________ DeviantArt\|AnimeList\|PC Config

June 21st, 2012, 23:41	#77
DaMan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 152	The pre Radeon HD cards got 3 quarterly driver updates after being going legacy so going by their track record support will be dropped in a year. Not releasing 12.5 which was last update until the next quarterly driver puts them off to a bad start.

June 22nd, 2012, 07:10	#78
Strike105X ヒットハード＆高速 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Aincrad Posts: 13,702	Well i don't know what's going to happen but atm there's not completly cut of support, that's all i'm saying. Only for Linux and Windows 8, with that said, i can sort of understand HD2k, but for HD3k/HD4k it feels way to soon to drop support even on linux, never mind not supporting on windows 8... __________________ DeviantArt\|AnimeList\|PC Config

August 3rd, 2012, 20:11	#79
etracecar Elite X Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: United States/ Texas Posts: 1	GTX 690 and soon ROG MARS III will creme AMD

August 5th, 2012, 11:13	#80
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	Well Keplar cards are bandwidth starved versus AMD. A 6GB 7990 will be a better card than a Mars 3 and 690 (Both 4GB, 256bit) for an eyefinity setup running texture heavy games such as battlefield 3. __________________ Vision is the art of seeing what is invisible to others