Looking at LED TVs

the_randomizer · July 29th, 2012, 02:35

So, I have a Vizio 32" LCD TV that I bought a little more than a year ago and while it's a pretty decent TV, I feel that I've been slighted. When I mean slighted, I mean I feel that I'm not getting as much out of it as I could be getting. Take for instance, it's impossible to run virtual console (and Wii emulators) games on the Wii at their native resolution, resulting in a horribly pixelated upscaled mess. All they show is a black screen on component cables, but sure I could use composite, but who uses those with HDTVs?

Heck, many gamecube games use 240p resolution (such as the Mega Man X Collection), which also doesn't play on this particular TV. Yeah, it's only a small percentage of things that don't work properly (or at all), but all the same, I'm not completely satisfied with the results after having owned this for over a year. Not to mention that the picture for games isn't as bright/crisp as it should be on the TV's Game mode.

So then I got thinking, maybe I should get an LED LCD TV instead, but whether they support unorthodox resolutions or not is something impossible to know before purchasing said TV. Granted, Vizio isn't the worst budget line of TVs (as many consider it to the best for cheapskates as myself), but then I started looking at other brands such as Sony, LG and Samsung. I don't want to spend $500 for a 32" LED TV.

I'm at a loss here, because there are too many conflicting thoughts at once:

- A new LED TV would be nice, but how do I get rid of the older one while earning some cash?

- Will a $300-$400 LG/Samsung/Sony TV really be any better than my current Vizio 32"

- Will that TV have legacy 240p/240i signal support, and if so, how does one know beforehand?

Feedback is greatly appreciated.

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Princess Garnet · July 29th, 2012, 05:04

Whether it can do those resolutions is more dependent on the model than it's backlight method.

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the_randomizer · July 29th, 2012, 05:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Princess Garnet

Whether it can do those resolutions is more dependent on the model than it's backlight method.

Any suggestions as far as brands (and their reliability) go?

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Princess Garnet · July 29th, 2012, 05:43

That's not my forte. I was just saying that it's model dependent, so buying an LED LCD may not help. If you need it to do such low resolutions (ew on an LCD), make sure the model you're looking at does it.

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Phil · July 29th, 2012, 10:48

Any Samsung will do.

You have to realize that such a low resolution will look like hell on any LCD based TV.

the_randomizer · July 29th, 2012, 16:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil

Any Samsung will do.

You have to realize that such a low resolution will look like hell on any LCD based TV.

Mega Man X Collection (a 240p game) didn't look that bad on my parent's Sony Bravia. But, it's good to know Samsung makes good TVs. Would native-resolution games at 240p look any more pixelated than at 480i/480p? If native resolution is going to be such a PITA to deal with, I should just forego the whole thing and get a TV anyway. Now the question remains, is it worth trading my current display for an LED TV? If so, how can I get money towards one from my old TV?

I should note the the Vizio I have is advertised as 720p, but supports 1080i, oddly enough. Perhaps I should stick to 720p/1080i....

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Princess Garnet · July 29th, 2012, 17:55

Most 720p displays (actually 1366 x 768) support 1080i.

As for LED making anything worthwhile, as with the other part, it depends on the model more than backlighting. Don't upgrade just for that.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · July 29th, 2012, 20:57

If you're planning on running lots of older SDef content then it may be a good idea to stick to a 720P/1080i TV. Cuz 1080P would make things look even worse.

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the_randomizer · July 29th, 2012, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

If you're planning on running lots of older SDef content then it may be a good idea to stick to a 720P/1080i TV. Cuz 1080P would make things look even worse.

Yeah, I also have a PS3 as well, but right now I only have it on 720p. Heck, even games and Blu-ray movies and look perfectly fine on an HDMI cable, so I'll stick to that resolution. What about selling it/trading it in for credit towards getting an LED? I bought the unit from Radioshack, and I still have the original box with the manual, I just don't know what my options are as far as getting cash for it.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · July 29th, 2012, 23:12

I'm afraid there I have no idea at all. I'm still using an olschool CRT.

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Princess Garnet · July 30th, 2012, 02:34

Where I am, 32" LCD TVs don't go for much second-hand. My parents sold two for $140. They first tried $175 and then $150 (and then got the $140 offer), but they had to move them fast. A friend also sold his 40" for $200. All TVs in question were, so far as I know, no name/budget stuff (Westinghouse and Sylvania for the 32" ones and Dynex for the 40" one maybe?).

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_randomizer

Yeah, I also have a PS3 as well, but right now I only have it on 720p. Heck, even games and Blu-ray movies and look perfectly fine on an HDMI cable, so I'll stick to that resolution.

720p is fine on 32" and 1080p is arguably unnecessary at that size unless you're sitting closer. 32" is like a good bedroom size and 46" or so works good for living rooms and such (all in my opinion).

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the_randomizer · July 30th, 2012, 03:38

I'll try avoid off-brand TVs this time (Westinghouse, Coby, etc). I say that because they don't make the reliable electronics out there, I'd much rather shoot for either Sony, Samsung or perhaps LG. Maybe I'll go for Samsung, after all, I've heard nothing but good things about that brand. 46" LEDs are quite expensive for one living on college budget and would prefer to say within the $300 to $400 range if possible, while shooting for good quality.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · July 30th, 2012, 03:46

I think you'll find most screens above 37" are 1080P so keep that in mind.

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**Yeloazndevil** · July 30th, 2012, 03:52

I dunno about that the_randomizer, I have a westinghouse and its a Samsung rebrand even in the system menus its says samsung. I have opened it and I did see a few samsung parts and the panel is samsung.

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the_randomizer · July 30th, 2012, 04:21

Exactly, it's not a real Samsung, just a TV with various parts from various companies; it's a Frankenstein TV. I'd rather have a Samsung with Samsung parts.

Now the question remains, how can I get money off of my current TV? I sure as heck can't give it back to Radioshack.

There's this one - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN32EH...pr_product_top

http://tinyurl.com/bm6u6br

http://tinyurl.com/cgsfqgx

http://tinyurl.com/bul2f9p

Just to list a few.

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**Yeloazndevil** · July 30th, 2012, 04:56

but it is all samsung parts just in a westinghouse casing

all u can really do is sell at a loss, tv resale pricing is horrible.

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the_randomizer · July 30th, 2012, 05:09

Still not risking it. But at least one of those I posted should get the job done.

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Phil · July 31st, 2012, 03:30

The Samsung you posted isn't that great of a screen, ghet the LCD version, or better, A D450 if you can still find one still floating around. Much better picture along with twice the connection options.

Check your PM's

runawayprisoner · July 31st, 2012, 15:01

Well, just to be brief:

on the 240p, I think you can get good results on LCDs and LEDs by using a hardware scaler instead of the internal scaler in most machines.

Try "CGA to VGA" on eBay. Some go for about $20. You just need an enclosure for it (use cardboard if all else fails).

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Lasnap · July 31st, 2012, 15:23

RAP some CRTs have inputs for component cables I should know I had one that was about 20" that had them and I am not sure if the Gamecube has component cables but it should as the PS2 has them. So telling him to use composite cables with a CRT when he doesn't have to is just idiotic you know.

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July 29th, 2012, 02:35	#1
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,620	Looking at LED TVs So, I have a Vizio 32" LCD TV that I bought a little more than a year ago and while it's a pretty decent TV, I feel that I've been slighted. When I mean slighted, I mean I feel that I'm not getting as much out of it as I could be getting. Take for instance, it's impossible to run virtual console (and Wii emulators) games on the Wii at their native resolution, resulting in a horribly pixelated upscaled mess. All they show is a black screen on component cables, but sure I could use composite, but who uses those with HDTVs? Heck, many gamecube games use 240p resolution (such as the Mega Man X Collection), which also doesn't play on this particular TV. Yeah, it's only a small percentage of things that don't work properly (or at all), but all the same, I'm not completely satisfied with the results after having owned this for over a year. Not to mention that the picture for games isn't as bright/crisp as it should be on the TV's Game mode. So then I got thinking, maybe I should get an LED LCD TV instead, but whether they support unorthodox resolutions or not is something impossible to know before purchasing said TV. Granted, Vizio isn't the worst budget line of TVs (as many consider it to the best for cheapskates as myself), but then I started looking at other brands such as Sony, LG and Samsung. I don't want to spend $500 for a 32" LED TV. I'm at a loss here, because there are too many conflicting thoughts at once: - A new LED TV would be nice, but how do I get rid of the older one while earning some cash? - Will a $300-$400 LG/Samsung/Sony TV really be any better than my current Vizio 32" - Will that TV have legacy 240p/240i signal support, and if so, how does one know beforehand? Feedback is greatly appreciated. __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green

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July 29th, 2012, 05:04	#2
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	Whether it can do those resolutions is more dependent on the model than it's backlight method. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

July 29th, 2012, 05:43	#4
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	That's not my forte. I was just saying that it's model dependent, so buying an LED LCD may not help. If you need it to do such low resolutions (ew on an LCD), make sure the model you're looking at does it. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

July 29th, 2012, 10:48	#5
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	Any Samsung will do. You have to realize that such a low resolution will look like hell on any LCD based TV.

July 29th, 2012, 17:55	#7
Princess Garnet From Love and Limerence Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 6,555	Most 720p displays (actually 1366 x 768) support 1080i. As for LED making anything worthwhile, as with the other part, it depends on the model more than backlighting. Don't upgrade just for that. __________________ "The heart has it's reasons that reason knows nothing of."

July 29th, 2012, 20:57	#8
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,411	If you're planning on running lots of older SDef content then it may be a good idea to stick to a 720P/1080i TV. Cuz 1080P would make things look even worse. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

July 29th, 2012, 23:12	#10
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,411	I'm afraid there I have no idea at all. I'm still using an olschool CRT. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

July 30th, 2012, 03:38	#12
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,620	I'll try avoid off-brand TVs this time (Westinghouse, Coby, etc). I say that because they don't make the reliable electronics out there, I'd much rather shoot for either Sony, Samsung or perhaps LG. Maybe I'll go for Samsung, after all, I've heard nothing but good things about that brand. 46" LEDs are quite expensive for one living on college budget and would prefer to say within the $300 to $400 range if possible, while shooting for good quality. __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green

July 30th, 2012, 03:46	#13
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,411	I think you'll find most screens above 37" are 1080P so keep that in mind. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

July 30th, 2012, 03:52	#14
Yeloazndevil Touka <3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 11,870	I dunno about that the_randomizer, I have a westinghouse and its a Samsung rebrand even in the system menus its says samsung. I have opened it and I did see a few samsung parts and the panel is samsung. __________________ Nintendo Network ID: Yeloazndevil

July 30th, 2012, 04:21	#15
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,620	Exactly, it's not a real Samsung, just a TV with various parts from various companies; it's a Frankenstein TV. I'd rather have a Samsung with Samsung parts. Now the question remains, how can I get money off of my current TV? I sure as heck can't give it back to Radioshack. There's this one - http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN32EH...pr_product_top http://tinyurl.com/bm6u6br http://tinyurl.com/cgsfqgx http://tinyurl.com/bul2f9p Just to list a few. __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green Last edited by the_randomizer; July 30th, 2012 at 04:33..

July 30th, 2012, 04:56	#16
Yeloazndevil Touka <3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 11,870	but it is all samsung parts just in a westinghouse casing all u can really do is sell at a loss, tv resale pricing is horrible. __________________ Nintendo Network ID: Yeloazndevil

July 30th, 2012, 05:09	#17
the_randomizer The King of Dinner Join Date: May 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,620	Still not risking it. But at least one of those I posted should get the job done. __________________ CPU - 3rd Gen Core i5 3570 3.4 GHz (3.8 GHz Turbo Boost) Extensions - MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EIST, AVX, Hyper Threading, Intel VT-x, AES-NI, Turbo Boost 2.0, TXT, Smart Cache GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 660 2 GB GDDR5 RAM - 8192MB DDR3 SDRAM 1333 OS - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit HDD - Western Digital 1 TB "If you call up your local hardware store and ask them how you can put tractor tires onto a 1990 Honda, well there's gonna be some laughter, a visit from the cops, maybe a psychiatric nurse." - Red Green

July 31st, 2012, 03:30	#18
Phil 339.9 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 14,777	The Samsung you posted isn't that great of a screen, ghet the LCD version, or better, A D450 if you can still find one still floating around. Much better picture along with twice the connection options. Check your PM's

July 31st, 2012, 15:01	#19
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Well, just to be brief: on the 240p, I think you can get good results on LCDs and LEDs by using a hardware scaler instead of the internal scaler in most machines. Try "CGA to VGA" on eBay. Some go for about $20. You just need an enclosure for it (use cardboard if all else fails). Last edited by runawayprisoner; July 31st, 2012 at 15:14..

July 31st, 2012, 15:23	#20
Lasnap Elven-Dragon Mage Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: USA Posts: 1,874	RAP some CRTs have inputs for component cables I should know I had one that was about 20" that had them and I am not sure if the Gamecube has component cables but it should as the PS2 has them. So telling him to use composite cables with a CRT when he doesn't have to is just idiotic you know. __________________ Love Knows No Bounds!