Chip16 Official thread (Development/Suggestions) - Page 26

tronix286 · July 9th, 2012, 08:57

@paul_nicholls: AAAAMMMIIIIIIIGAAAAAHHHHHHHH!! Great demo! You rocks!

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4p3r0 · July 9th, 2012, 09:56

Great! Paul, you are brilliant, as always

Prads · July 9th, 2012, 10:05

Amazing! Really awesome job!

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paul_nicholls · July 9th, 2012, 10:11

Glad you like it guys!

It took me a while, but I extracted the bitmap info from the image here:
http://www.randelshofer.ch/animation...ing3.ilbm.html

massaged the data (changed 32 colour palette down to 16 colour palette, and worked out how to cycle the colours so I could do that in the chip16 demo

**refraction** · July 9th, 2012, 13:43

Good job Paul! I'm hoping to have my fighting game done soon too, its all done just the computer AI needs doing, but he's a bit of an idiot currently

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paul_nicholls · July 9th, 2012, 21:48

I did try my demo with the refchip16 emulator and the colours came out all wrong...the red was blue for example...

tykel · July 9th, 2012, 21:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_nicholls

I did try my demo with the refchip16 emulator and the colours came out all wrong...the red was blue for example...

You have an old version, palette is now fixed in the most recent builds of refchip16.
Check refraction's google code page.

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paul_nicholls · July 9th, 2012, 23:51

Ok, thanks mate

I will get the latest version...

**refraction** · July 11th, 2012, 00:28

Hey guys, i have an early release of my fighting game as i dont know how much more time i'm going to have before my wedding/honeymoon (this weekend, eek!) so here's what i got so far.

Still todo:
make the player/cpu "die" when either wins.
sound (as always lol)

controls are A to punch, B to kick, A+B to block and left and right to move.

enjoy!

Attached Files

bruised.7z (4.3 KB, 4 views)

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Prads · July 11th, 2012, 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

Hey guys, i have an early release of my fighting game as i dont know how much more time i'm going to have before my wedding/honeymoon (this weekend, eek!) so here's what i got so far.

Still todo:
make the player/cpu "die" when either wins.
sound (as always lol)

controls are A to punch, B to kick, A+B to block and left and right to move.

enjoy!

lul

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paul_nicholls · July 11th, 2012, 04:09

@refraction: Great job with your game mate, and congratulations with your up and coming wedding!!

paul_nicholls · July 11th, 2012, 04:31

@tykel: I have a question about your tchip16 assembler...

With the sound opcode "SNP":

Code:

SNP Rx, HHLL            Play Sound for HHLL miliseconds at the tone specified in address pointed to by Register X (uses current sound generator settings; ADSR, etc.).

How would I load the address of a frequency in the ROM into a register in the first place?

I tried this:

Code:

ldi R7, frequency
...
frequency: dw 65

But that just loaded 65 in to R7, and not the address of frequency...

tykel · July 11th, 2012, 08:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

Hey guys, i have an early release of my fighting game as i dont know how much more time i'm going to have before my wedding/honeymoon (this weekend, eek!) so here's what i got so far.

Still todo:
make the player/cpu "die" when either wins.
sound (as always lol)

controls are A to punch, B to kick, A+B to block and left and right to move.

enjoy!

Congrats!! Wedding is way more important than this...

As for Bruised... Little bug on the title screen, you have to press SELECT rather than START as advertised. And I just can't stop thinking of Beavis and Butthead

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_nicholls

@tykel: I have a question about your tchip16 assembler...

With the sound opcode "SNP":

Code:

SNP Rx, HHLL            Play Sound for HHLL miliseconds at the tone specified in address pointed to by Register X (uses current sound generator settings; ADSR, etc.).

How would I load the address of a frequency in the ROM into a register in the first place?

I tried this:

Code:

ldi R7, frequency
...
frequency: dw 65

But that just loaded 65 in to R7, and not the address of frequency...

Err... what? That should load the address of frequency. Are you using LDM by any chance?

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paul_nicholls · July 11th, 2012, 09:57

@tykel: my bad!! My IDE debugger got confused or something and showed a different value than it should have. It is now working ok

Sorry!...

On this topic, for my boing demo, I really wished I could store a mono, 8-bit sample (raw PCM) of the Amiga's boing noise and play it back via Chip16 assembler

It would have completely made the demo LOL

tykel · July 11th, 2012, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_nicholls

@tykel: my bad!! My IDE debugger got confused or something and showed a different value than it should have. It is now working ok

Sorry!...

On this topic, for my boing demo, I really wished I could store a mono, 8-bit sample (raw PCM) of the Amiga's boing noise and play it back via Chip16 assembler

It would have completely made the demo LOL

I know... one of the suggestions I made initially for sound was PCM playback, for reasons such as this.

That said, it is in theory possible to recreate the sound using the tone generator we have; if you look at the waveform and manage to identify its components, you should be able to get something. In practise, though...

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paul_nicholls · July 11th, 2012, 12:39

Well, I have now added sound to the boing demo (see attached file).
Doesn't sound too bad in the refchip16 emulator

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**refraction** · July 11th, 2012, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by paul_nicholls

Well, I have now added sound to the boing demo (see attached file).
Doesn't sound too bad in the refchip16 emulator

woohoo! my emulator actually does something well! haha

tho i was wondering, at the moment its literally playing a sound and if another sound request is made it cancels the last sound and plays the new one. I was wondering if i should keep it like this or make it a ring buffer so its a bit easier to "queue up" sounds as it were and play the length the game expects.

It was quite fun trying to get the "pewpew" sound to work in my Alien game and sound almost like an old school console gun ;p

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · July 11th, 2012, 15:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

Hey guys, i have an early release of my fighting game as i dont know how much more time i'm going to have before my wedding/honeymoon (this weekend, eek!) so here's what i got so far.

Still todo:
make the player/cpu "die" when either wins.
sound (as always lol)

controls are A to punch, B to kick, A+B to block and left and right to move.

enjoy!

Congrats man

Gonna make her sign up like GP had Rae sign up?

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**refraction** · July 11th, 2012, 15:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Congrats man

Gonna make her sign up like GP had Rae sign up?

haha thanks!

I doubt she will sign up to here, i only come here for this thread, don't really use these forums anymore, however she is already a member of the PCSX2 forums :P

we should probably keep this convo out of here so we dont fill this thread with crap xD

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tykel · July 11th, 2012, 15:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by refraction

tho i was wondering, at the moment its literally playing a sound and if another sound request is made it cancels the last sound and plays the new one. I was wondering if i should keep it like this or make it a ring buffer so its a bit easier to "queue up" sounds as it were and play the length the game expects.

That was the behaviour your emu had initially, right? I don't think that it's a good idea.

If sounds start getting delayed it can quickly become mayhem. I suppose you could call SND0, but I don't think waiting for a 10 second sound to finish to play a short beep is right.

What would be cool is overlap... but I think the sound spec is still too little implemented to start extending it with multiple sound channels.

My 2c, anyway.

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refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 10,037	Good job Paul! I'm hoping to have my fighting game done soon too, its all done just the computer AI needs doing, but he's a bit of an idiot currently __________________ http://www.pcsx2.net Intel i7 920 @ 3.4Ghz, POV GTX 570 1.3Gb, 1.8Tb HD space, 6Gb OCZ Reaper PC3-14400 Triple Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for! My Chip16 Emulator RefChip16 http://code.google.com/p/refchip16/
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paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	@tykel: I have a question about your tchip16 assembler... With the sound opcode "SNP": Code: SNP Rx, HHLL Play Sound for HHLL miliseconds at the tone specified in address pointed to by Register X (uses current sound generator settings; ADSR, etc.). How would I load the address of a frequency in the ROM into a register in the first place? I tried this: Code: ldi R7, frequency ... frequency: dw 65 But that just loaded 65 in to R7, and not the address of frequency...

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July 9th, 2012, 08:57	#501
tronix286 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Russia, Moscow Posts: 48	@paul_nicholls: AAAAMMMIIIIIIIGAAAAAHHHHHHHH!! Great demo! You rocks! __________________ CHIP-16 Debugger

July 9th, 2012, 09:56	#502
4p3r0 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 14	Great! Paul, you are brilliant, as always

July 9th, 2012, 10:05	#503
Prads Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 89	Amazing! Really awesome job! __________________ My Programming Projects: www.pradsprojects.com

July 9th, 2012, 10:11	#504
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	Glad you like it guys! It took me a while, but I extracted the bitmap info from the image here: http://www.randelshofer.ch/animation...ing3.ilbm.html massaged the data (changed 32 colour palette down to 16 colour palette, and worked out how to cycle the colours so I could do that in the chip16 demo

July 9th, 2012, 21:48	#506
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	I did try my demo with the refchip16 emulator and the colours came out all wrong...the red was blue for example...

July 9th, 2012, 23:51	#508
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	Ok, thanks mate I will get the latest version...

July 11th, 2012, 04:09	#511
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	@refraction: Great job with your game mate, and congratulations with your up and coming wedding!!

July 11th, 2012, 09:57	#514
paul_nicholls Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 180	@tykel: my bad!! My IDE debugger got confused or something and showed a different value than it should have. It is now working ok Sorry!... On this topic, for my boing demo, I really wished I could store a mono, 8-bit sample (raw PCM) of the Amiga's boing noise and play it back via Chip16 assembler It would have completely made the demo LOL