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**cottonvibes** · June 14th, 2012, 11:25

never coded with Objective-C, but from the sample code i've looked at, it looks disgusting and something i don't want to have to ever use

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**@ruantec** · June 14th, 2012, 20:41

@-RAP

I made a video today that may make my point a bit more clear since i know i'm very bad at explaining things

. What you're about to see shouldn't be possible under Windows but using proper tricks you can get it done and as far as i know nobody has got it as far as me

. The video you posted shows some ways but this one shows you my UI and a very powerful PC game grabbed without performance loss which is something that should not be possible to do under Windows at all due it its silly limitation:

The video shows exactly what i like to code and is just not possible to do using pure OpenGL. The main challenge here is not my UI but the combination of both as you can't have such a design and at the same time render a game like that. The grabbing method for the game isn't perfect yet since it took me about 5 minutes to write the necessary code to grab the game.

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runawayprisoner · June 15th, 2012, 15:56

Then it's just what you want to do that isn't possible with OpenGL in Windows.

Under OSX and some Linux GUIs, since the whole interface is loosely based on OpenGL, accomplishing such a thing would have to go through OpenGL one way or another.

It's more of an OS limitation here, not a limitation of the API.

**@ruantec** · June 16th, 2012, 17:37

Yeah, its possible under linux but as i said... its a stupid Windows limitation that should've been fixed since years but for some silly reasons MS doesn't seem to give a damn.

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June 14th, 2012, 11:25	#21
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	never coded with Objective-C, but from the sample code i've looked at, it looks disgusting and something i don't want to have to ever use __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

June 14th, 2012, 20:41	#22
@ruantec Crazy GFX coder Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dominican Republic/Austria Posts: 8,115	@-RAP I made a video today that may make my point a bit more clear since i know i'm very bad at explaining things . What you're about to see shouldn't be possible under Windows but using proper tricks you can get it done and as far as i know nobody has got it as far as me . The video you posted shows some ways but this one shows you my UI and a very powerful PC game grabbed without performance loss which is something that should not be possible to do under Windows at all due it its silly limitation: The video shows exactly what i like to code and is just not possible to do using pure OpenGL. The main challenge here is not my UI but the combination of both as you can't have such a design and at the same time render a game like that. The grabbing method for the game isn't perfect yet since it took me about 5 minutes to write the necessary code to grab the game. __________________ Current development tools: Visual C++.net, Visual C#.net Visual VB.net, Visual Webdeveloper.net Bloodshed Dev C++, Borland C++ Visual Basic 6 Last edited by @ruantec; June 14th, 2012 at 20:53..

June 15th, 2012, 15:56	#23
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Then it's just what you want to do that isn't possible with OpenGL in Windows. Under OSX and some Linux GUIs, since the whole interface is loosely based on OpenGL, accomplishing such a thing would have to go through OpenGL one way or another. It's more of an OS limitation here, not a limitation of the API.

June 16th, 2012, 17:37	#24
@ruantec Crazy GFX coder Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Dominican Republic/Austria Posts: 8,115	Yeah, its possible under linux but as i said... its a stupid Windows limitation that should've been fixed since years but for some silly reasons MS doesn't seem to give a damn. __________________ Current development tools: Visual C++.net, Visual C#.net Visual VB.net, Visual Webdeveloper.net Bloodshed Dev C++, Borland C++ Visual Basic 6