Xbox 720 rumor: Blu-ray, persistent Internet mandatory

[ozzgx4]

If you want to play on Microsoft's next console, well, you'd better have a stable Internet connection.

In quite a contrast to the launch of the Xbox 360, which didn't include any sort of wireless connectivity feature, it's being reported that the console's successor will make an always-on Internet connection a requirement for all users.

While this will allow for a strong online community and the ability to create social networks within the system, it seems Microsoft's main purpose for the persistent connection was driven by something else: piracy.

As reported by VG247, the system will reportedly be able to check every game, every app, everything that users try to load on the console and if it doesn't pass muster, Microsoft will block it. If true, this is the strongest anti-piracy measure and game console will have ever taken.

In addition, rumors point to Microsoft finally breaking down and incorporating Blu-ray technology - headed up by arch rival Sony - into the next Xbox. The Xbox 360 has made great improvements in expanding disc-reading capacity but games still need to be burned on DVDs. Games that are released as four or five disc sets on the Xbox 360 can be released as a single Blu-ray Disc on the PS3.

Because of the capacity factor, it seems the next Xbox will bite the bullet and give Sony all the licensing fees and associated costs that incorporating Blu-ray will require.

Among the previously reported rumors are that the Xbox 720 will not have a spinning disc drive. Instead, the console will focus highly on digitally downloaded content. That doesn't mean games won't have a retail presence. There will still be a slot for retail games, but it will reportedly be powered by some sort of solid state media.

It was also originally suggested that the console would be revealed at this year's E3 event in June, but that has been denied by Microsoft. It is still, however, being speculated that it will launch in the end of 2013.

Will this really deter piracy?

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Posted it here alread but maybe it does deserve a separate thread. To answer the question, no it won't deter piracy in any way and more like put people off gaming altogether.

[ozzgx4]

Oh I didn't see that. Maybe it can be merged or something then.

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If anything, its the random post in random gaming news that belong to this thread.
The section's purpose is providing clear demarcation between interesting topics, compared to generic random banter. Lets keep it that way.

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[Paratech]

I just won't buy the next consoles, as I have hundreds of games to play.

I want a 360 and a 3DS, but after that, I just won't buy anything else.

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[aceloop]

Originally Posted by Paratech

I just won't buy the next consoles, as I have hundreds of games to play.

I want a 360 and a 3DS, but after that, I just won't buy anything else.

I own a NES, and I don't need anything else. ****, i got google maps too for it.

[Ahielia]

It was a given that they'd don a blu-ray for it, still relying on dvd would be utterly foolish.

Though the always-on line part seems to be far fetched now, it's pretty much a certainty that it will become a reality in the near future - even if they don't implement it on the next generation consoles.

Originally Posted by OP

Will this really deter piracy?

There are plenty of always-on line games that exist now, or who require activation and a log in once started, but they are cracked quite quickly.
tl;dr
No.

[Paratech]

Originally Posted by aceloop

I own a NES, and I don't need anything else. ****, i got google maps too for it.

Look at this gen, compare it to the previous gen. I doubt the PS4, 720, or Wii U will bring anything "new" into the mix. I have hundreds of games on the PS2, PSP, XBOX, Wii, Gamecube, and PC, so how you compare that to having some NES games is beyond me.

Plus I have many games on the Genesis, SNES, Atari 2600, N64, GB, GBC, and GBA.

When you own hundreds of videogames there comes a point when you wonder if you'll ever finish what you own, let alone buy new stuff...

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[Kaiser Sigma]

Originally Posted by Paratech

When you own hundreds of videogames there comes a point when you wonder if you'll ever finish what you own, let alone buy new stuff...

Unless you started with videogames last week I can't imagine how somebody could have hundreds of games that they've yet to play~.

[Paratech]

Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

Unless you started with videogames last week I can't imagine how somebody could have hundreds of games that they've yet to play~.

Yet to finish, how about buying videogames for over 30 years? What you're on an emulation site and don't understand that?

Some of us have been buying games since the Atari 2600, or the Commodore 64 like me.

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Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by Paratech

When you own hundreds of videogames there comes a point when you wonder if you'll ever finish what you own, let alone buy new stuff...

I'm not sure about you but any game that's still on my rack, I've finished. It's the games that I know I won't ever finish that will go into a bargain bin at GameStop.

Talking about which, I should find my old journal... it contained the very best password codes of the most popular NES games that my brother and I took the pain to "finish".

[Kaiser Sigma]

Originally Posted by Paratech

Yet to finish, how about buying videogames for over 30 years? What you're on an emulation site and don't understand that?

Some of us have been buying games since the Atari 2600, or the Commodore 64 like me.

My question stands all the same, unless you bought things and never played them, it seems quite unrealistic to say that there's no need to buy games from a next gen because you have hundreds of games to finish from prior generations~.

That and the fact your logic seems extremely shaky. The argument that you have been buying games for X period of time could've been applied generations ago. So it seems extremely arbitrary to all of a sudden say that you don't need games from a new gen because you have "hundreds" of games from prior generations~.

[Linktothepast]

Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

My question stands all the same, unless you bought things and never played them, it seems quite unrealistic to say that there's no need to buy games from a next gen because you have hundreds of games to finish from prior generations~.

That and the fact your logic seems extremely shaky. The argument that you have been buying games for X period of time could've been applied generations ago. So it seems extremely arbitrary to all of a sudden say that you don't need games from a new gen because you have "hundreds" of games from prior generations~.

Old people most of the times think like that (that every new day is worse than the day before ). And then they rant about it, can't be helped i guess .

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Originally Posted by ozzgx4

Will this really deter piracy?

Depends.
A XBOX720 likely isn't going to have the same freedom a PC has to alter Installers and run server emulators and cracks so I'd actually say yes. Though that's only if the 720 is locked down PS3 HyperVisor style (but with a smarter key).
If it's closer to the PC with a manageable File System and everything then likely no.

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[Paratech]

Originally Posted by Kaiser Sigma

My question stands all the same, unless you bought things and never played them, it seems quite unrealistic to say that there's no need to buy games from a next gen because you have hundreds of games to finish from prior generations~.

That and the fact your logic seems extremely shaky. The argument that you have been buying games for X period of time could've been applied generations ago. So it seems extremely arbitrary to all of a sudden say that you don't need games from a new gen because you have "hundreds" of games from prior generations~.

What exactly is the next gen going to offer me that I'll want so badly I'll make myself a whore of the gaming industry? What exactly has been innovative this gen? Most of the "best" games are remakes, rehashes, updates. Innovation isn't there.

I don't like the Wiimote, or the PS3 or 360 motion controllers. I don't see what is out there as worth selling myself over.

The gaming industry wants to treat its customers like crap, they can do that to those who want to be abused, count me out. The only reason I even buy off Steam anymore is I treat those games like rentals, but as I said, Steam like sales won't happen for Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo.

The PS2, XBOX, and Gamecube actually had some innovation, but how many of the same games do you want to spend $60 to play? Name all this new stuff that makes you want to sell yourself over to the gaming industry to play?

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-Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x.
-Current consoles:Wii, Slim PS2, also has 3DS / GBA SP and a PSP 3000

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Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

[Kaiser Sigma]

You have a terrible habit of putting words in other people's mouths. Never did I say you would/should/will "whore" yourself to the gaming industry (whatever that means). I only stated that it sounds a tad far fetched that somebody (or you in this case) would skip a console generation because, supposedly, they have hundreds of games to play from prior generations~.

Games are a hobbie, so yeah, I will definitely buy some games come next gen (assuming they appeal to me) and I'm sure they'll have something to offer to everybody. Doesn't mean you'll want it badly but I'd be quite surprised if once things are out there's nothing that would interest you. As for spending money, 60 is nothing new to me (and a lot of users I'd guess), most Limited / Collector's / Special editions cost more than 60. Diablo III is costing me 160 USD with shipping (because Gamestop only ships through UPS) and I'm not really calling it the end of the World~.

[Paratech]

If you buy a system that doesn't allow used games that's what your doing, making yourself a victim. Letting the gaming industry walk all over you and violate you. I don't see that as worth it.

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-Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x.
-Current consoles:Wii, Slim PS2, also has 3DS / GBA SP and a PSP 3000

-PC: AMD Quad Core A8-3800 Accelerated Processor, 16GB DDR3 Ram, Radeon HD45xx 1 GB video card, 1 TB hard drive, 500 GB hard drive, Supermulti DVD Burner, Wireless Lan 802.11 b/g/n, Beats audio Studio Quality sound, Win 7 Home Premium

Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

[Kaiser Sigma]

That's a bit dramatic. I've been gaming since 1986. You know how many used games I've bought? 0. This rumor, while I do not approve of it (assuming it's true), does not affect me at all~.

[Paratech]

Yeah it does, when they disconnect the servers and discontinue the system you won't be able to play the games or system anymore. The PS4, 720, etc will be the first systems nobody will be able to play after they are discontinued. That's pretty dramatic.

I have an Atari 2600, NES, SNES, N64, PSX, PS2, Wii, XBOX, many systems that are "obsolete" that I can still play, but the next gen systems won't be that way.

And you're talking on an emulation site, where gamers are preserving everything they can like its not a big deal to lose an entire generation of gaming, and then wondering why I don't care to invest in a disposable generation of gaming?

Plus who wants to be abused just so they can temporarily play some games they buy? Its one thing to pay under $10 to buy games on Steam, another to pay $60 to buy limited time games.

I'm fed up of being abused by the gaming industry, if you want to continue to be abused be my guest.

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Spoiler:

-Dreams of getting a new 360 XBOX in 201x.
-Current consoles:Wii, Slim PS2, also has 3DS / GBA SP and a PSP 3000

-PC: AMD Quad Core A8-3800 Accelerated Processor, 16GB DDR3 Ram, Radeon HD45xx 1 GB video card, 1 TB hard drive, 500 GB hard drive, Supermulti DVD Burner, Wireless Lan 802.11 b/g/n, Beats audio Studio Quality sound, Win 7 Home Premium

Yes, I like getting (primarily digital) games on sale @ bargain prices! don't like it? Just deal with it!

[Kaiser Sigma]

First, I don't find myself being abused, I'd appreciate if you refrain from shoving on others (or at least on me) your own personal crusades just because you have a problem with the market. Second, this is so far a rumor, it has not been confirmed so I cannot voice discontent over a potential issue when it's nothing but just that: a rumor. If your reasoning to skip a generation is that (maybe) someday you'll no longer be able to play those games, that to me makes perfect sense. It'd have saved a bunch of time if you'd have cut on the melodramatics and jumped straight into the motive but regardless, it's a legt reason. But then again, this is all a rumor so far~.