looking at danger den watercooling

MrPink · April 2nd, 2008, 01:09

i was poking around the danger den website and the "official nvidia recommended" danger den water cooling kit for nforce mobos. http://www.dangerden.com/store/files...vkit2_555w.jpg

for over $200, it doesn't look like they give you much!

so first of all, i want water cooling in my next PC build, and i know that DD is a reputable manufacturer of water cooling solutions. but are the pre-gathered kits worth the money, or should i just individually order everything i need?

i'm a n00b at water cooling, but i think the main things you need are: reservoir, pump, radiator, tubing, and waterblocks. did i miss anything? also, is it ok to mix and match parts, like say a DD radiator but a Zalman pump?
give any advice you have, because i probably need it

runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 01:13

It's okay to mix and match parts... if they fit. Danger Den looks awesome, but you're better off with something like... AIR and WC hybrid. Something like an Antec 900 case with fans everywhere... and cooling tubes running along.

Sincerely, that'd be better than exclusively AIR or exclusively WC.

Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 01:13

Newegg.com - ZALMAN Reserator XT BK Black Reserator (Reservoir+Radiator+Water Pump) Water Cooling System - Retail
Here's almost everything you need

(CPU, RAM, and VGA :])

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**cottonvibes** · April 2nd, 2008, 01:20

i'm looking at watercooling for my next build aswell, since i like pushing my Processor to its limits.

is cooling the Mobo (northbridge) Chips by water really necessary?

when i plan on going watercooling, i think i'll just buy the HSF for my CPU, and not for my mobo/graphics card.
i don't want to mess with taking off the graphics card and mobo heatsinks... i think i'll break something in the process..

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runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 01:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

i'm looking at watercooling for my next build aswell, since i like pushing my Processor to its limits.

is cooling the Mobo (northbridge) Chips by water really necessary?

when i plan on going watercooling, i think i'll just buy the HSF for my CPU, and not for my mobo/graphics card.
i don't want to mess with taking off the graphics card and mobo heatsinks... i think i'll break something in the process..

They're fairly easy to take off, really. But if you're too scared, just go extreme air cooling. Something like the Antec 900 is still recommended.

**cottonvibes** · April 2nd, 2008, 01:27

on old mobos i've tried taking off their heatsinks and i always have trouble with them... maybe i'm not doing it right.

anyways, i've gone semi-extreme air-cooling but it dosn't allow me to get the temps i want.
plus massive heatsinks don't fit in my case, and i don't want to spend another 100 bucks on a new case. for that i just get watercooling.

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Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 01:34

I'm getting extreme air cooling I think, water cooling costs too much for now :x
I'll stick 5 120mm fans with a 200mm fan I think (they costs less then $50)

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runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 01:50

I'm running 5 120mm fans and 1 200mm fan with my Antec 900.

Temps can barely break 60C even with stress tests.

I wonder how it'd be with WC?

Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 02:02

Air cooling ftw

Even an extra VGA cooler+CPU cooler will be less than $100
So you can get everything you need for extreme air for less than $120

(my Zerotherm Nirvana CPU cooler is $39.99)

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**cottonvibes** · April 2nd, 2008, 02:08

i have quite a bit of fans on my PC.

[Back of Case]
1- PSU outtake fan
2- other outake fans
1- GFX card fan (the one built-into the 8800GTS)
1- custom GFX outtake fan

[Inside Case]
1- CPU fan
1- RAM fan
1- Huge 250mm Side-intake fan

[Front of Case]
2- big intake fans

all together 10 fans

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Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 02:16

I'm going to get a VGA cooler for sure, and I already have my CPU cooler.
I think the GPU I'm getting has a fan too, I think.
My PSU has a fan too.
I'm debating between:
9 120mm fans (1 top exhaust, 4 side intake, 3 front intake, 1 back exhaust)
or
5 120mm fans (3 top exhaust, 1 front intake, 1 back exhaust) + a 120 side intake fan

So, 12 or 9 fans

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runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 02:18

Which reminds me, you seem to have not... purchased a motherboard or CPU yet. :P Just a quick question, Fadingz: how much of a Quad do you plan to run?

**cottonvibes** · April 2nd, 2008, 02:23

fadingz,

the problem with side intake fans is that if you get a big HSF, it can bump into the side fan.
thats why i can't fit big HSF's in my case... because my side-intake fan takes up the whole side panel..

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Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 02:24

I want to clock the CPU up on the edge of killing its lifespan XD
Since I need CPU power for Maya :x

Quote:

Originally Posted by cottonvibes

fadingz,

the problem with side intake fans is that if you get a big HSF, it can bump into the side fan.
thats why i can't fit big HSF's in my case... because my side-intake fan takes up the whole side panel..

My side fan(s) will be built in, since I'm going to get either Cosmos S or Stacker 832.
I saw many people installed the HSF on there, so I guess it should be a problem >,<

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Last edited by Fadingz; April 2nd, 2008 at 02:29.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 02:44

QX9650 be the perfect choice for you then. Not so many Q9450's can even hit 3.6GHz stable... or so I've heard.

Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 02:45

I'm waiting on the dropping price of QX9650 and the availability of Q9450 T.T
QX9650 has dropped $200 already.

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runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 03:37

Still around there in the $600+ marks...

I don't play with toys that are over $500 in price.

Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 03:44

I'll get it if it is below $700 O..O
but that is a dream I guess...

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runawayprisoner · April 2nd, 2008, 03:48

You may be able to get it at that price on eBay after Nehalem comes out.

Fadingz · April 2nd, 2008, 03:50

that will be next year though, I need this workstation before the summer starts T.T

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April 2nd, 2008, 01:09	#1
MrPink Pink Poney Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Big Sky Country Posts: 727	looking at danger den watercooling i was poking around the danger den website and the "official nvidia recommended" danger den water cooling kit for nforce mobos. http://www.dangerden.com/store/files...vkit2_555w.jpg for over $200, it doesn't look like they give you much! so first of all, i want water cooling in my next PC build, and i know that DD is a reputable manufacturer of water cooling solutions. but are the pre-gathered kits worth the money, or should i just individually order everything i need? i'm a n00b at water cooling, but i think the main things you need are: reservoir, pump, radiator, tubing, and waterblocks. did i miss anything? also, is it ok to mix and match parts, like say a DD radiator but a Zalman pump? give any advice you have, because i probably need it

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April 2nd, 2008, 01:13	#2
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	It's okay to mix and match parts... if they fit. Danger Den looks awesome, but you're better off with something like... AIR and WC hybrid. Something like an Antec 900 case with fans everywhere... and cooling tubes running along. Sincerely, that'd be better than exclusively AIR or exclusively WC.

April 2nd, 2008, 01:13	#3
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	Newegg.com - ZALMAN Reserator XT BK Black Reserator (Reservoir+Radiator+Water Pump) Water Cooling System - Retail Here's almost everything you need (CPU, RAM, and VGA :]) __________________

April 2nd, 2008, 01:20	#4
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	i'm looking at watercooling for my next build aswell, since i like pushing my Processor to its limits. is cooling the Mobo (northbridge) Chips by water really necessary? when i plan on going watercooling, i think i'll just buy the HSF for my CPU, and not for my mobo/graphics card. i don't want to mess with taking off the graphics card and mobo heatsinks... i think i'll break something in the process.. __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

April 2nd, 2008, 01:27	#6
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	on old mobos i've tried taking off their heatsinks and i always have trouble with them... maybe i'm not doing it right. anyways, i've gone semi-extreme air-cooling but it dosn't allow me to get the temps i want. plus massive heatsinks don't fit in my case, and i don't want to spend another 100 bucks on a new case. for that i just get watercooling. __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

April 2nd, 2008, 01:34	#7
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	I'm getting extreme air cooling I think, water cooling costs too much for now :x I'll stick 5 120mm fans with a 200mm fan I think (they costs less then $50) __________________

April 2nd, 2008, 01:50	#8
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	I'm running 5 120mm fans and 1 200mm fan with my Antec 900. Temps can barely break 60C even with stress tests. I wonder how it'd be with WC?

April 2nd, 2008, 02:02	#9
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	Air cooling ftw Even an extra VGA cooler+CPU cooler will be less than $100 So you can get everything you need for extreme air for less than $120 (my Zerotherm Nirvana CPU cooler is $39.99) __________________

April 2nd, 2008, 02:08	#10
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	i have quite a bit of fans on my PC. [Back of Case] 1- PSU outtake fan 2- other outake fans 1- GFX card fan (the one built-into the 8800GTS) 1- custom GFX outtake fan [Inside Case] 1- CPU fan 1- RAM fan 1- Huge 250mm Side-intake fan [Front of Case] 2- big intake fans all together 10 fans __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

April 2nd, 2008, 02:16	#11
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	I'm going to get a VGA cooler for sure, and I already have my CPU cooler. I think the GPU I'm getting has a fan too, I think. My PSU has a fan too. I'm debating between: 9 120mm fans (1 top exhaust, 4 side intake, 3 front intake, 1 back exhaust) or 5 120mm fans (3 top exhaust, 1 front intake, 1 back exhaust) + a 120 side intake fan So, 12 or 9 fans __________________ Last edited by Fadingz; April 2nd, 2008 at 02:21..

April 2nd, 2008, 02:18	#12
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Which reminds me, you seem to have not... purchased a motherboard or CPU yet. :P Just a quick question, Fadingz: how much of a Quad do you plan to run?

April 2nd, 2008, 02:23	#13
cottonvibes You're already dead... Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Planet Vegeta Posts: 5,387	fadingz, the problem with side intake fans is that if you get a big HSF, it can bump into the side fan. thats why i can't fit big HSF's in my case... because my side-intake fan takes up the whole side panel.. __________________ "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein check out my blog

April 2nd, 2008, 02:44	#15
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	QX9650 be the perfect choice for you then. Not so many Q9450's can even hit 3.6GHz stable... or so I've heard.

April 2nd, 2008, 02:45	#16
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	I'm waiting on the dropping price of QX9650 and the availability of Q9450 T.T QX9650 has dropped $200 already. __________________

April 2nd, 2008, 03:37	#17
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	Still around there in the $600+ marks... I don't play with toys that are over $500 in price.

April 2nd, 2008, 03:44	#18
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	I'll get it if it is below $700 O..O but that is a dream I guess... __________________

April 2nd, 2008, 03:48	#19
runawayprisoner Level 9998 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Java Posts: 9,377	You may be able to get it at that price on eBay after Nehalem comes out.

April 2nd, 2008, 03:50	#20
Fadingz 代言人 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 應許之地 Posts: 7,057	that will be next year though, I need this workstation before the summer starts T.T __________________