is pcsx2 0.9.4 slower than 0.9.2??

SprayActi · December 1st, 2007, 18:31

i have just one question if pcsx2 0.9.4 slower than 0.9.2??

i don know why there was a guy called refraction closing my thread cause it was just a question if its my pc or the new emulator.....

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OH NO THE TRAGEDY!! the code must be RUBBISH!!

go complain to them authors

oh and use 0.9.2 instead if you are that bothered about minor fps. idiot.

**refraction** · December 1st, 2007, 18:35

a guy called refraction who codes the ****ing thing.

if you havent changed pc, what does common sense tell you that the factor is going to be for it being slower?? seriously do you have to ask?

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SprayActi · December 1st, 2007, 18:37

i never said pcsx2 0.9.4 is bad you do gread job and without u guys coding it i wouldnt be able to play anyway. i just wanted to know why a new version is slower than the previous version, cause newer versions should be better and not worse

**refraction** · December 1st, 2007, 18:41

why should newer versions be faster? the newer one focuses on compatability not speed.

Higher Compat - Lower Speed

or

Higher Speed - Lower Compat.

you cant always have both.

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Hatman · December 1st, 2007, 18:41

Dude it has been repeated over and over that the focus is on compatibility at the moment and upcomming versions might very well be slower in some parts.

siulmagic · December 1st, 2007, 19:41

ok spraycti your answer is yea its slower with what game you ask FFXII BUT as i learned its better to have compability over speed now withe the lates version of gsdx9 i can play the game with no crashes and the text dosent disapear, but then again 9.2 is faster with ffxii but you get crashes in some areas plus grap glitches no matter what plugin you use on that version, so yea stick with 9.4 its way better than 9.2.

PS; next time use the search fuction theres alredy a post about this and guess who made it me almost all opinions about that are there and the diference in fps is there too

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PCXL-Fan · December 1st, 2007, 19:50

for all you know it could have something to do with the gs plug-in your using and not pcsx2. The speed of your game depends as much on pcsx2 as on the gs plug-in.

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tuanming · December 1st, 2007, 20:08

Guess this guy haven't heard of the new GSdx9 Gabest plugin which increase speed for pcsx2 0.9.4 on some/most games.

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SprayActi · December 1st, 2007, 20:22

where do ig et this gabest plugin pls??

PCXL-Fan · December 1st, 2007, 20:28

type in gsdx9 in the search function, its the one with the 1000+ replies

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Adrian-ex · December 1st, 2007, 20:31

on my system isnt slower, more faster is it dont know why but is it so i must really use the limit function hehe

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JenZi · December 2nd, 2007, 08:38

In my system 9.4 is way faster and better than 9.2, I really dont understand the fuss...

olis · December 2nd, 2007, 08:46

It's no use to discuss this, cause it's obvious the main thing is about compatibility if you want speed then use some good configuration and new faster PC.

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Castlevania-fan · December 2nd, 2007, 09:35

olis is right, if you want speed, go buy a better computer, i would rather they work on compat then speed, becuse even if i play a game at half speed (none so far) becuse as i dont have a tv anymore (lol i know, i dont like whats on normal tele) i dont have much reason to use my ps2 anymore, so i rent games, and play them on my computer.

echosierra · December 2nd, 2007, 09:52

Higher compatibility comes from more complete/better emulation of the target system. If you have more things done correctly, compatibility gets better.
This is why an interpreter-style core is written first, to provide a reliable fall back when everything else fails. It's much easier to write than a recompiler, but is generally slower.

Higher speeds comes from refinement of the code. Better code designs are discovered and implemented, doing the same thing the older versions did but in less time.

For complete real-time emulation to become a reality, you must start from a solid code base. That only comes from having good compatibility. Speed is a by-product as the code is refined and made better over time.

hogonosama · December 5th, 2007, 18:50

Higher compatibility ??? WHAT games are newes in pcsx2.0.9.4?? god of war 1, 2,bully, matrix, mortal kombat, and others games are ingame like in pcsx2..2,,what are new?

echosierra · December 6th, 2007, 01:14

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Originally Posted by hogonosama

Higher compatibility ??? WHAT games are newes in pcsx2.0.9.4?? god of war 1, 2,bully, matrix, mortal kombat, and others games are ingame like in pcsx2..2,,what are new?

Many games only run on 0.9.4, a little research would find you which ones. Just because the games you want to run don't fully work doesn't mean that none do.

Karigato · December 5th, 2007, 20:31

Honestly, how come it's slower for you? It should be faster than PCSX2 0.9.2, and with more compatibility. Are you sure you have the proper settings for it? And yeah, what echosierra said, speed comes with time. He seems to have had past experience with coding or so. If they work on speed right now, it's highly likely they'll screw up some graphics coding. Not a good idea, so they should stick to compatibility, as they are right now and they're doing a pretty damn good job.

GreenSoda · December 6th, 2007, 00:04

Bully and GOW work better now then they did with 0.9.2 ...they are still not fully playable, but nevertheless...

Tsuska · December 6th, 2007, 02:09

What we need is "Higher Speed" and "Higher Compat" =D lol
(Yep, get rid of that concentrate on Higher Compat instead of speed...and concentrate on both, and work like crazy...as if u were working on both a profession and a passion)

No $hit >.>

BTW the top was sarcastic for those who didn't notice...

Enjoy testing the games out. After all I'm sure the PCSX2 team isn't going to baby-feed you now are they?

Waddya know, maybe even if Higher compat rises and speed lowers but technology advances...it sorta evens out that speed thing or even makes it better and then u have high compat too...soo it's all good. (Sry for bad english...i really cbb right now...brain malfunction)

Basically...why not try it out urself =P I'm sure that the BEST way to find out at this stage. Afterall...no ones perfect >.>

Ok i'll cut the psychological crap...

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December 1st, 2007, 18:35	#2
refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 10,037	a guy called refraction who codes the ****ing thing. if you havent changed pc, what does common sense tell you that the factor is going to be for it being slower?? seriously do you have to ask? __________________ http://www.pcsx2.net Intel i7 920 @ 3.4Ghz, POV GTX 570 1.3Gb, 1.8Tb HD space, 6Gb OCZ Reaper PC3-14400 Triple Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for! My Chip16 Emulator RefChip16 http://code.google.com/p/refchip16/
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refraction PCSX2 Coder $refraction's Avatar$ Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 10,037	why should newer versions be faster? the newer one focuses on compatability not speed. Higher Compat - Lower Speed or Higher Speed - Lower Compat. you cant always have both. __________________ http://www.pcsx2.net Intel i7 920 @ 3.4Ghz, POV GTX 570 1.3Gb, 1.8Tb HD space, 6Gb OCZ Reaper PC3-14400 Triple Channel Dont PM me for help, use the forums, thats what its for! My Chip16 Emulator RefChip16 http://code.google.com/p/refchip16/
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December 1st, 2007, 18:37	#3
SprayActi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sadsa Posts: 33	i never said pcsx2 0.9.4 is bad you do gread job and without u guys coding it i wouldnt be able to play anyway. i just wanted to know why a new version is slower than the previous version, cause newer versions should be better and not worse

December 1st, 2007, 18:41	#5
Hatman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Hamburg / Germany Posts: 522	Dude it has been repeated over and over that the focus is on compatibility at the moment and upcomming versions might very well be slower in some parts.

December 1st, 2007, 19:41	#6
siulmagic Question Everything Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: PR Posts: 117	ok spraycti your answer is yea its slower with what game you ask FFXII BUT as i learned its better to have compability over speed now withe the lates version of gsdx9 i can play the game with no crashes and the text dosent disapear, but then again 9.2 is faster with ffxii but you get crashes in some areas plus grap glitches no matter what plugin you use on that version, so yea stick with 9.4 its way better than 9.2. PS; next time use the search fuction theres alredy a post about this and guess who made it me almost all opinions about that are there and the diference in fps is there too __________________ Phenom II x2 BE 3.2ghz, 4gb DDR2 Dual Channel 800, Gigabyte GTX 550 TI stock

December 1st, 2007, 20:08	#8
tuanming Final Fantasy XXX Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA, TX Posts: 2,413	Guess this guy haven't heard of the new GSdx9 Gabest plugin which increase speed for pcsx2 0.9.4 on some/most games. __________________ Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan) ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657 G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

December 1st, 2007, 20:22	#9
SprayActi Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: sadsa Posts: 33	where do ig et this gabest plugin pls??

December 1st, 2007, 20:31	#11
Adrian-ex Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: GERMANY Posts: 119	on my system isnt slower, more faster is it dont know why but is it so i must really use the limit function hehe __________________ The World will never be the same..... ---------------------------------------------- My SYStem: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300@3.24GHz Freezer Pro 2x OCZ 1GB DDR800 RAM ATi Radeon X1800 XT 625/1500@700/1801 ASUS P5W DH Deluxe Soundblaster 24Bit Live! 250GB Maxtor 16MB Cache

December 2nd, 2007, 08:38	#12
JenZi Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 10	In my system 9.4 is way faster and better than 9.2, I really dont understand the fuss...

December 2nd, 2007, 08:46	#13
olis Laruffii Inside Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Japan Posts: 105	It's no use to discuss this, cause it's obvious the main thing is about compatibility if you want speed then use some good configuration and new faster PC. __________________ _____________________________________ Turion64 X2 1,9 GHz:::120 GB HDD SATA II:::nVidia GeForce 7000m:::2GB DDR-II RAM:::16 X Supermulti DVDRW+::: Acer Aspire 4520

December 2nd, 2007, 09:35	#14
Castlevania-fan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 203	olis is right, if you want speed, go buy a better computer, i would rather they work on compat then speed, becuse even if i play a game at half speed (none so far) becuse as i dont have a tv anymore (lol i know, i dont like whats on normal tele) i dont have much reason to use my ps2 anymore, so i rent games, and play them on my computer.

December 2nd, 2007, 09:52	#15
echosierra I'm a gopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 376	Higher compatibility comes from more complete/better emulation of the target system. If you have more things done correctly, compatibility gets better. This is why an interpreter-style core is written first, to provide a reliable fall back when everything else fails. It's much easier to write than a recompiler, but is generally slower. Higher speeds comes from refinement of the code. Better code designs are discovered and implemented, doing the same thing the older versions did but in less time. For complete real-time emulation to become a reality, you must start from a solid code base. That only comes from having good compatibility. Speed is a by-product as the code is refined and made better over time.

December 5th, 2007, 18:50	#16
hogonosama Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: japan Posts: 87	Higher compatibility ??? WHAT games are newes in pcsx2.0.9.4?? god of war 1, 2,bully, matrix, mortal kombat, and others games are ingame like in pcsx2..2,,what are new?

December 5th, 2007, 20:31	#18
Karigato Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Romania Posts: 63	Honestly, how come it's slower for you? It should be faster than PCSX2 0.9.2, and with more compatibility. Are you sure you have the proper settings for it? And yeah, what echosierra said, speed comes with time. He seems to have had past experience with coding or so. If they work on speed right now, it's highly likely they'll screw up some graphics coding. Not a good idea, so they should stick to compatibility, as they are right now and they're doing a pretty damn good job.

December 6th, 2007, 00:04	#19
GreenSoda Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 287	Bully and GOW work better now then they did with 0.9.2 ...they are still not fully playable, but nevertheless...

December 6th, 2007, 02:09	#20
Tsuska Pulse Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 235	What we need is "Higher Speed" and "Higher Compat" =D lol (Yep, get rid of that concentrate on Higher Compat instead of speed...and concentrate on both, and work like crazy...as if u were working on both a profession and a passion) No $hit >.> BTW the top was sarcastic for those who didn't notice... Enjoy testing the games out. After all I'm sure the PCSX2 team isn't going to baby-feed you now are they? Waddya know, maybe even if Higher compat rises and speed lowers but technology advances...it sorta evens out that speed thing or even makes it better and then u have high compat too...soo it's all good. (Sry for bad english...i really cbb right now...brain malfunction) Basically...why not try it out urself =P I'm sure that the BEST way to find out at this stage. Afterall...no ones perfect >.> Ok i'll cut the psychological crap... __________________ My Desktop PC: Intel Core2Duo e6850 @ 3.00GHz \| 256MB Gigabyte GeForce 8600GTS \| 2x2GB Apacer RAM @ 800MHz \| Asus P5K-E/WIFI-AP My Laptop PC: Coming Soon Sig Coming soon: 500x130 and 25K, I'm still very new at Computer Graphics, so I'm trying to transfer my drawings onto the computer.