FF9 still slow...why...!?

Igu_yogi · January 22nd, 2004, 17:20

People, I changed my GPU from GeForce 3 Ti 200 to GeForce FX 5200, and the game speed up a little bit, but is still slow...why...!?

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killivippin · January 22nd, 2004, 18:23

Is your desktop colour depth also set to 32bit?
That worked for a freind of mine anyway.
Did you try a direct 3d driver?
I can get around 40fps on ff9 with my pII 333mhz, 80 mb of ram with a 4mb ati card.
edit:Are you using an iso?I usually get an extra 10fps with an iso.

Last edited by killivippin; January 22nd, 2004 at 18:26.. Reason: just remembered something!

Igu_yogi · January 22nd, 2004, 20:10

Yes, my desktop clour depth is set to 32bit either...
Direct 3d driver...!? GeForce boards are better as OpenGL if you don't know...
And yes, I'm using an ISO...

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neural-shock · January 22nd, 2004, 20:29

if you're using the latest nVidia drivers, that might be the reason... on my P3 850 w/ GeForce 2 GTS, the framerate went down to half when I installed them, so I went back to the 45.23 version.

Igu_yogi · January 22nd, 2004, 20:36

I'm using ForceWare 53.03...but this is really strange isn't it...!?

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killivippin · January 22nd, 2004, 21:41

Is it just ff9?
What other games have you tried?
What is your average fps?

Igu_yogi · January 22nd, 2004, 23:33

Only FF9...

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**hushypushy** · January 23rd, 2004, 00:21

well for one....the 5200 aint much better than a GF3 anyway. turn OFF frameskipping.....or just do these settings: (which turn off fs anyway). also make sure that AA (anti aliasing) and AF (anisotropic filtering) are off.

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.75
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce FX 5600/AGP/SSE2

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Window mode
[32 Bit]- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- R8G8B8A8
- Filtering: 0
- Hi-Res textures: 0
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 0
- Framebuffer access: 4
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: on
- Advanced blending: on

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- 15 bit FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Screen cushion: off
- Game fixes: on [00000200]

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Kazuya · January 23rd, 2004, 07:16

The config he gave is ok but i would consider turning off the mask bit and enable filtering to 4, maybe 6. The best drivers for your card are the 4403.

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Gamer1 · January 23rd, 2004, 08:02

it really seems like fsaa is on. i myself could run ff9 on my 1ghz athlon gf4mx machine in full speed.

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**Kane** · January 23rd, 2004, 19:30

Quote:

the 5200 aint much better than a GF3 anyway. turn OFF frameskipping.....or just do these settings: (which turn off fs anyway). also make sure that AA (anti aliasing) and AF (anisotropic filtering) are off.

Uhhh... I think the 5200 is actualy a fair bit slower than a normal geForce3. At most it'd be on a par with the Ti200.
I think you must have enabled FSAA to have thes kind of probs tho.

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**hushypushy** · January 24th, 2004, 03:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kane-Sama

Uhhh... I think the 5200 is actualy a fair bit slower than a normal geForce3. At most it'd be on a par with the Ti200.
I think you must have enabled FSAA to have thes kind of probs tho.

sorry kane...i just wanted to maybe give him the benefit of the doubt

so btw, i do not understand the TI shizzle. TI = slower than normal?

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Gamer1 · January 24th, 2004, 05:17

for the gf3, there are 3 differenet variations.

gf3 ti500 (the fastest gf3), geforce 3, and gf3 ti200 (the slowest gf3)

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**Kane** · January 24th, 2004, 09:49

The geFoce 3 was released first, then ~6 months down the line, they released the slightly castrated and the beefed up versions, the ti200 and the ti500 respectively.

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Igu_yogi · January 24th, 2004, 13:25

Where can I turn off the AA (anti aliasing) and AF (anisotropic filtering)....!?

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**Kane** · January 24th, 2004, 13:32

Display Properties > Settings > Advanced > geForce FX 5200 > Performance & Quality Settings.

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Igu_yogi · January 24th, 2004, 13:40

OK, I turned off, this will speed up my FF9...!? And you know, I think I need to buy a new sound card, as you can see mine is a onboard one, maybe this will speed up my games too...

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**hushypushy** · January 24th, 2004, 18:48

a soundcard will free you up just a bit, as it will be hardware accelerating the sound (and thus not taking up CPU space) but honestly i dont think you would notice much of a difference.

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Igu_yogi · January 24th, 2004, 22:08

So, What I really need to do it to speed up my PSX games, cause as I concern, my PC is a good one to play almost all games I'm I right...!?

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January 22nd, 2004, 18:23	#2
killivippin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 138	Is your desktop colour depth also set to 32bit? That worked for a freind of mine anyway. Did you try a direct 3d driver? I can get around 40fps on ff9 with my pII 333mhz, 80 mb of ram with a 4mb ati card. edit:Are you using an iso?I usually get an extra 10fps with an iso. Last edited by killivippin; January 22nd, 2004 at 18:26.. Reason: just remembered something!

January 22nd, 2004, 20:10	#3
Igu_yogi I'm a FREAK...!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 125	Yes, my desktop clour depth is set to 32bit either... Direct 3d driver...!? GeForce boards are better as OpenGL if you don't know... And yes, I'm using an ISO... __________________ :: PC :: [CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ (512MB DDR266)] [HDD: Maxtor 40GB (7200RPM)] [GPU: nVÍDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) w/ ForceWare 53.03] [SPU: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio (?MB)] [CDR: LG DVD-ROM 16X48X (DRD-8160B)] [PAD: Psxpad PreBeta] [Windows XP Professional w/ SP2] [DirectX 9.0b]

January 22nd, 2004, 20:29	#4
neural-shock Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: . Posts: 170	if you're using the latest nVidia drivers, that might be the reason... on my P3 850 w/ GeForce 2 GTS, the framerate went down to half when I installed them, so I went back to the 45.23 version.

January 22nd, 2004, 20:36	#5
Igu_yogi I'm a FREAK...!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 125	I'm using ForceWare 53.03...but this is really strange isn't it...!? __________________ :: PC :: [CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ (512MB DDR266)] [HDD: Maxtor 40GB (7200RPM)] [GPU: nVÍDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) w/ ForceWare 53.03] [SPU: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio (?MB)] [CDR: LG DVD-ROM 16X48X (DRD-8160B)] [PAD: Psxpad PreBeta] [Windows XP Professional w/ SP2] [DirectX 9.0b]

January 22nd, 2004, 21:41	#6
killivippin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ireland Posts: 138	Is it just ff9? What other games have you tried? What is your average fps?

January 22nd, 2004, 23:33	#7
Igu_yogi I'm a FREAK...!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 125	Only FF9... __________________ :: PC :: [CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ (512MB DDR266)] [HDD: Maxtor 40GB (7200RPM)] [GPU: nVÍDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) w/ ForceWare 53.03] [SPU: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio (?MB)] [CDR: LG DVD-ROM 16X48X (DRD-8160B)] [PAD: Psxpad PreBeta] [Windows XP Professional w/ SP2] [DirectX 9.0b]

January 23rd, 2004, 00:21	#8
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,979	well for one....the 5200 aint much better than a GF3 anyway. turn OFF frameskipping.....or just do these settings: (which turn off fs anyway). also make sure that AA (anti aliasing) and AF (anisotropic filtering) are off. Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.75 Author: Pete Bernert Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation GFX card: GeForce FX 5600/AGP/SSE2 Resolution/Color: - 640x480 Window mode [32 Bit]- Keep psx aspect ratio: off Textures: - R8G8B8A8 - Filtering: 0 - Hi-Res textures: 0 - VRam size: 0 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limitation: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: Auto Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 0 - Framebuffer access: 4 - Alpha multipass: on - Mask bit: on - Advanced blending: on Misc: - Scanlines: off - Line mode: off - Unfiltered FB: off - 15 bit FB: off - Dithering: off - Screen smoothing: off - Screen cushion: off - Game fixes: on [00000200] __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

January 23rd, 2004, 07:16	#9
Kazuya The seeker of perfection Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suing somebody Posts: 3,628	The config he gave is ok but i would consider turning off the mask bit and enable filtering to 4, maybe 6. The best drivers for your card are the 4403. __________________ PSN ID: solidandrey Visit my blog in Spanish: http://andreyirrasalazar.blogspot.com

January 23rd, 2004, 08:02	#10
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	it really seems like fsaa is on. i myself could run ff9 on my 1ghz athlon gf4mx machine in full speed. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

January 24th, 2004, 05:17	#13
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,241	for the gf3, there are 3 differenet variations. gf3 ti500 (the fastest gf3), geforce 3, and gf3 ti200 (the slowest gf3) __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

January 24th, 2004, 09:49	#14
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	The geFoce 3 was released first, then ~6 months down the line, they released the slightly castrated and the beefed up versions, the ti200 and the ti500 respectively. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

January 24th, 2004, 13:25	#15
Igu_yogi I'm a FREAK...!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 125	Where can I turn off the AA (anti aliasing) and AF (anisotropic filtering)....!? __________________ :: PC :: [CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ (512MB DDR266)] [HDD: Maxtor 40GB (7200RPM)] [GPU: nVÍDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) w/ ForceWare 53.03] [SPU: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio (?MB)] [CDR: LG DVD-ROM 16X48X (DRD-8160B)] [PAD: Psxpad PreBeta] [Windows XP Professional w/ SP2] [DirectX 9.0b]

January 24th, 2004, 13:32	#16
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,303	Display Properties > Settings > Advanced > geForce FX 5200 > Performance & Quality Settings. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Phenom II X4, 4Gb DDR2, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 32Gb OCZ Vertex SSD, 500Gb RAID HDD, Windows 7 Home Premium Erika: (MCPC) Revo3610, Windows 7 Home Premium Kimiko: (Craptop) HP Mini 210

January 24th, 2004, 13:40	#17
Igu_yogi I'm a FREAK...!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 125	OK, I turned off, this will speed up my FF9...!? And you know, I think I need to buy a new sound card, as you can see mine is a onboard one, maybe this will speed up my games too... __________________ :: PC :: [CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ (512MB DDR266)] [HDD: Maxtor 40GB (7200RPM)] [GPU: nVÍDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) w/ ForceWare 53.03] [SPU: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio (?MB)] [CDR: LG DVD-ROM 16X48X (DRD-8160B)] [PAD: Psxpad PreBeta] [Windows XP Professional w/ SP2] [DirectX 9.0b]

January 24th, 2004, 18:48	#18
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,979	a soundcard will free you up just a bit, as it will be hardware accelerating the sound (and thus not taking up CPU space) but honestly i dont think you would notice much of a difference. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994.

January 24th, 2004, 22:08	#19
Igu_yogi I'm a FREAK...!!! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 125	So, What I really need to do it to speed up my PSX games, cause as I concern, my PC is a good one to play almost all games I'm I right...!? __________________ :: PC :: [CPU: AMD Athlon XP 1500+ (512MB DDR266)] [HDD: Maxtor 40GB (7200RPM)] [GPU: nVÍDIA GeForce FX 5200 (128MB) w/ ForceWare 53.03] [SPU: CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio (?MB)] [CDR: LG DVD-ROM 16X48X (DRD-8160B)] [PAD: Psxpad PreBeta] [Windows XP Professional w/ SP2] [DirectX 9.0b]