Dxbx: 0.1 Alpha Release is there

**shadow_tj** · February 3rd, 2010, 12:16

It has been a long time since the last release.. (Xmas 2008).
But now its time to show the world what has been done since the last time.

So thats why the new release 0.1 Alpha is there.

Download can be found on the sourceforge page.
dxbx | Get dxbx at SourceForge.net

What has been fixed..

- Game logos are shown in the main form and can also be exported.
- The dll`s don`t need to be copied annymore to the game folders. ( this because of Xbe Loading ).
- No more creating exe files, we run the xbe files instead of converting the xbe to exe.
- We use our own dll files, not working with the cxbx dll`s
- XBEExplorer, a new tool for looking into xbe files like a PE Header viewer, then for xbe files.
- XDKTracker game list has been updated..

This are some features i can think of.. so now you can take a look also with this new setup.
REMEMBER .. THIS IS STILL ALPHA -- NO PLAYABLE STUFF --

We are still hard working on it.. and prehaps we can make a full 0.1 version..
But for now its still ALPHA !!

Greetings,

Dxbx Team

tom_mai78101 · February 4th, 2010, 07:43

Congratulations on your first milestone!

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Doronetty · February 4th, 2010, 10:58

Megarespect and Triple Hurrah!!!

Smooth Criminal · February 4th, 2010, 13:53

woo...nicee

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ssj4bq · February 4th, 2010, 19:32

Thanks shadow_tj for jobs.
Some game in playable in version 0.1 Alpha?
Nice jobs.

**shadow_tj** · February 4th, 2010, 21:52

no games or demo`s or homebrew stuff is playable yet.

However, we still have some problems with the vertex shaders and the ntcreatefile methods.
If these are fixed we probably will get some other debug problems.. but we are very close to the first screens, we are getting closer every time.

Also we have almost every day new adjustments in the svn in sourceforge.
So there is al lot of progress.

When we will have screenshots to show, i can not tell.
The project is doing good again, but its still made in free time.

thats all for now.

kingis85 · February 5th, 2010, 09:46

Gongralulations from the alpha release

So the translation from c to delphi is nearly complete and you can start building dxbx at your own methods to working emulation, is that right?

Keep up the great work team, and remember to take a break at a while. The first screens will show soon enough.

**patrickvl** · February 5th, 2010, 10:42

@kingis85 : Well, we do take a break sometimes... just not that much;-)

I'm working on it almost every night, sometimes working on pure translation, sometimes supporting defiance, or anything else that comes up. Learning as we go...

Say, how you you like my new XbeExplorer tool?

kingis85 · February 5th, 2010, 17:27

well as i dont understand very mutch from all that information what xbe file has inside but i,m sure it will be useful for looking important information. It seems to be easy to use and maybe we other people can help you emudevs if you need information from games that you dont have. So it is definetly a good tool to have.

_hyde_ · February 5th, 2010, 17:53

I'd be interested in helping / learning... Where can I find technical docs on XBox architecture?

**shadow_tj** · February 5th, 2010, 21:14

what do you mean with technical information ??
like specs, software information like file formats and stuff or hardware ?

Hardware:
Hacking the Xbox

File formats
try google for the xbe file format.

software information.. eeh ok there or 2 types of executables for xbox.
the xbe files created with homebrew OpenXdk and software that has been created with a official Microsoft XDK

adelomida · February 7th, 2010, 16:10

I consider this a great achievement in the emulation scene...congratulations for your hard work...
It was about time the XBOX emulation gets a push forward, because it was the least advancing emulated machine...but now, I guess, it is only a matter of time...
great work shadow_tj, please keep it up...

mewtu · February 8th, 2010, 01:18

I don't understand why you are moving away from cxbx rather than trying to get your findings incorporated in it.

**patrickvl** · February 8th, 2010, 07:40

@mewtu : You're making the wrong conclusion; As a matter of fact, Defiance is hard at work, incorporating my improvements back into Cxbx (namely the alternative symbol-detection code and the XbeLoading [bypassing the Xbe>Exe conversion]).

Shock120 · February 8th, 2010, 08:10

which OS's are supported? and which of 32bit and 64bit?
thanks =D

**patrickvl** · February 8th, 2010, 10:07

@Shock120 : I'm not going to repeat what's already described in our readme. Please research a little before polluting the forum. Thank you.

kornman00 · February 14th, 2010, 02:27

WoW64 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seems that AMD64 based machines should be able to run this OK (due to the ability to switch to compat-mode for 32-bit threads). IA-64 reads as being a more "computationally expensive task" due to it's unique instruction set.

If I had a AMD64 based machine I'd test.

**patrickvl** · February 14th, 2010, 11:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by kornman00

WoW64 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seems that AMD64 based machines should be able to run this OK (due to the ability to switch to compat-mode for 32-bit threads). IA-64 reads as being a more "computationally expensive task" due to it's unique instruction set.

If I had a AMD64 based machine I'd test.

As far as our testing goes, WOW64 does not support emulation for 32 bit LDT, which we really need to emulate the difference in the TIB structure (that's accessed in Xbox code via the FS register).

We do have a (incomplete) prototype that patches all FS-using code to use NT-native offsets, but that code is not complete (not by a long shot), but it's our only hope of ever running under WOW64. It's not actively pursued right now however, maybe later.

Squall-Leonhart · February 14th, 2010, 11:16

LDT existed on the first 32bit processors in order to provide backwards compatiblity for 16bit apps that were not capable of paging. CPU's are not capable of executing 16bit instructions and features while running in 64bit native, which is why LDT is not available via WoW64.

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The main problem is no vm86 mode under 64bit.

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February 3rd, 2010, 12:16	#1
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 905	Dxbx: 0.1 Alpha Release is there It has been a long time since the last release.. (Xmas 2008). But now its time to show the world what has been done since the last time. So thats why the new release 0.1 Alpha is there. Download can be found on the sourceforge page. dxbx \| Get dxbx at SourceForge.net What has been fixed.. - Game logos are shown in the main form and can also be exported. - The dll`s don`t need to be copied annymore to the game folders. ( this because of Xbe Loading ). - No more creating exe files, we run the xbe files instead of converting the xbe to exe. - We use our own dll files, not working with the cxbx dll`s - XBEExplorer, a new tool for looking into xbe files like a PE Header viewer, then for xbe files. - XDKTracker game list has been updated.. This are some features i can think of.. so now you can take a look also with this new setup. REMEMBER .. THIS IS STILL ALPHA -- NO PLAYABLE STUFF -- We are still hard working on it.. and prehaps we can make a full 0.1 version.. But for now its still ALPHA !! Greetings, Dxbx Team

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February 4th, 2010, 07:43	#2
tom_mai78101 No$gba Philospher Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Posts: 527	Congratulations on your first milestone! __________________ Hardware Information: Windows Vista Home Premium SP2, Genuine, 358MB Mobile Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100, 2 GB DDRAM, Intel Pentium Dual-Core Processor T2330 (1.6 GHz), Acer Aspire 5720-4126

February 4th, 2010, 10:58	#3
Doronetty Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Russia Posts: 45	Megarespect and Triple Hurrah!!!

February 4th, 2010, 19:32	#5
ssj4bq Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brazil Posts: 101	Thanks shadow_tj for jobs. Some game in playable in version 0.1 Alpha? Nice jobs.

February 4th, 2010, 21:52	#6
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 905	no games or demo`s or homebrew stuff is playable yet. However, we still have some problems with the vertex shaders and the ntcreatefile methods. If these are fixed we probably will get some other debug problems.. but we are very close to the first screens, we are getting closer every time. Also we have almost every day new adjustments in the svn in sourceforge. So there is al lot of progress. When we will have screenshots to show, i can not tell. The project is doing good again, but its still made in free time. thats all for now.

February 5th, 2010, 09:46	#7
kingis85 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 71	Gongralulations from the alpha release So the translation from c to delphi is nearly complete and you can start building dxbx at your own methods to working emulation, is that right? Keep up the great work team, and remember to take a break at a while. The first screens will show soon enough.

February 5th, 2010, 10:42	#8
patrickvl Emu author Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands (GMT+1) Posts: 414	@kingis85 : Well, we do take a break sometimes... just not that much;-) I'm working on it almost every night, sometimes working on pure translation, sometimes supporting defiance, or anything else that comes up. Learning as we go... Say, how you you like my new XbeExplorer tool?

February 5th, 2010, 17:27	#9
kingis85 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Finland Posts: 71	well as i dont understand very mutch from all that information what xbe file has inside but i,m sure it will be useful for looking important information. It seems to be easy to use and maybe we other people can help you emudevs if you need information from games that you dont have. So it is definetly a good tool to have.

February 5th, 2010, 17:53	#10
_hyde_ Meh. Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles - CA Posts: 131	I'd be interested in helping / learning... Where can I find technical docs on XBox architecture?

February 5th, 2010, 21:14	#11
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 905	what do you mean with technical information ?? like specs, software information like file formats and stuff or hardware ? Hardware: Hacking the Xbox File formats try google for the xbe file format. software information.. eeh ok there or 2 types of executables for xbox. the xbe files created with homebrew OpenXdk and software that has been created with a official Microsoft XDK

February 7th, 2010, 16:10	#12
adelomida Digital Hunter Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Egypt Posts: 1	I consider this a great achievement in the emulation scene...congratulations for your hard work... It was about time the XBOX emulation gets a push forward, because it was the least advancing emulated machine...but now, I guess, it is only a matter of time... great work shadow_tj, please keep it up...

February 8th, 2010, 01:18	#13
mewtu Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: germany Posts: 19	I don't understand why you are moving away from cxbx rather than trying to get your findings incorporated in it.

February 8th, 2010, 07:40	#14
patrickvl Emu author Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands (GMT+1) Posts: 414	@mewtu : You're making the wrong conclusion; As a matter of fact, Defiance is hard at work, incorporating my improvements back into Cxbx (namely the alternative symbol-detection code and the XbeLoading [bypassing the Xbe>Exe conversion]).

February 8th, 2010, 08:10	#15
Shock120 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 58	which OS's are supported? and which of 32bit and 64bit? thanks =D

February 8th, 2010, 10:07	#16
patrickvl Emu author Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands (GMT+1) Posts: 414	@Shock120 : I'm not going to repeat what's already described in our readme. Please research a little before polluting the forum. Thank you.

February 14th, 2010, 02:27	#17
kornman00 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Posts: 10	WoW64 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Seems that AMD64 based machines should be able to run this OK (due to the ability to switch to compat-mode for 32-bit threads). IA-64 reads as being a more "computationally expensive task" due to it's unique instruction set. If I had a AMD64 based machine I'd test.