iDeas or no$gba

unknowndevil · September 14th, 2009, 23:34

Since I can't really use my ds without my parents watching me, I would like to know which emulator is currently working for me.
Before I was using no$gba, but since it didn't update for pretty long time, I would like to see or change a new emulator (desume or iDeaS) if they can actually work better than no$gba. Can anyone give me a suggestion compare iDeaS or no$gba (I exclude desume because I heard it is still worse than both.) Please don't start any unnecessary comment or argument.
P.S. I have a pretty good computer right now, which can run pcsx2 pretty well.

Smilley · September 15th, 2009, 07:54

If you have No$GBA 2.6a, you can still run most new games at playable speeds with the No$Zoomer 2.3.0.2 utility.

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nanaya · September 15th, 2009, 08:47

For me Desmume runs better than both no$gba and ideas.

MaoMao · September 15th, 2009, 10:27

Desmume?? LOL LOL yer yes...... LOL LOL

"If you have No$GBA 2.6a, you can still run most new games at playable speeds with the No$Zoomer 2.3.0.2 utility"

nanaya · September 15th, 2009, 15:25

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Originally Posted by MaoMao

Desmume?? LOL LOL yer yes...... LOL LOL

"If you have No$GBA 2.6a, you can still run most new games at playable speeds with the No$Zoomer 2.3.0.2 utility"

LOL yes LOL, whatever...
Fact remains that Desmume run most games fine without auto frameskipping on my system (plus AA in Vista for 3D games).

to OP, have you tried the latest Desmume release or SVN compile? speed have increased considerably than the last time you heard the bad things, just try it, what games are you trying to run anyway?

MaoMao · September 15th, 2009, 16:39

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Originally Posted by nanaya

LOL yes LOL, whatever...
Fact remains that Desmume run most games fine without auto frameskipping on my system (plus AA in Vista for 3D games).

to OP, have you tried the latest Desmume release or SVN compile? speed have increased considerably than the last time you heard the bad things, just try it, what games are you trying to run anyway?

And you have tested this?? Sound problem solved with opzion for sound, fix games problems solved, use all and test with no$wtt and enable turbo option and you will see.

All the emulator work very fine into one sistem AA, the problem is to use one emulator with one normal PC.

Example?? Use yours solution and No$gba solution into one PC Pentium 4 geforge 6200 win XP (my PC) and you will see that no$gba is the best, because one emulator need to emulate with the minimal power and no with the maximal power...

nanaya · September 15th, 2009, 17:01

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Originally Posted by MaoMao

And you have tested this?? Sound problem solved with opzion for sound, fix games problems solved, use all and test with no$wtt and enable turbo option and you will see.

All the emulator work very fine into one sistem AA, the problem is to use one emulator with one normal PC.

Example?? Use yours solution and No$gba solution into one PC Pentium 4 geforge 6200 win XP (my PC) and you will see that no$gba is the best, because one emulator need to emulate with the minimal power and no with the maximal power...

I said on MY system, and as the OP apparently have "maximal power" PC (he can run pcsx2 fine) I bet he'll be fine too.
No$gba is a good emu I agree, but it's rather outdated with limited capability compared to today's ds emu (no save state which is deal breaking for me).

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · September 15th, 2009, 10:42

Moving to misc handheld discussion and deleting your duplicate topic in the iDeaS subforum.

Seeing as your computer is pretty good I would say you should mainly use DeSmuME, but it's not a bad idea to keep no$gba around cuz there are still one or two games which play a little better in it.
iDeaS unfortunately is marred by horrible audio so unless you plan to play with no sound it's not a good choice and compatibility aint that great anyways (eventhough it can do some things no$gba can't)

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ozzgx4 · September 15th, 2009, 15:52

No$gba is pretty good, although I have never used ideas...

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unknowndevil · September 16th, 2009, 00:41

I am currently playing pokemon heart gold.... but playing on ds is really tiring since it is too small. (no$gba also, and I don't like using no zoomer because it sometimes crash for no reason) Yea I really should try desmume.... Last time I search forum and ppl said its really bad so I kinda ignore it. Thanks for advice guys.

IceColdKiller · September 19th, 2009, 17:28

hey hey hey desmume is the best! that emu is updating every hour and i have the svn version of cource and they add new features almost everyday i cant sleep and...... jesus

**SCHUMI_4EVER** · September 19th, 2009, 17:34

Just cuz something constantly gets worked one does not mean it's constantly getting better, some revisions to an SVN have to be withdrawn cuz they breaks that were already on place, or perhaps they come with an unreasonable resource use. Emulation is a trial and error thing, one step forward one step back untill you finally find that breakthrough but somtimes that can take days, weeks, even months depending on what's wrong. So yes DeSmuME is good, and it's good that it's actively being worked on, but it's hardly improving as rapidly as you say it is.
Plus you need a fair bit of PC knowledge to even compile the SVN, for the common guy that can't compile the SVN, DeSmuME is advancing just as slowly as any other emu.

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IceColdKiller · September 19th, 2009, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Just cuz something constantly gets worked one does not mean it's constantly getting better, some revisions to an SVN have to be withdrawn cuz they breaks that were already on place, or perhaps they come with an unreasonable resource use. Emulation is a trial and error thing, one step forward one step back untill you finally find that breakthrough but somtimes that can take days, weeks, even months depending on what's wrong. So yes DeSmuME is good, and it's good that it's actively being worked on, but it's hardly improving as rapidly as you say it is.
Plus you need a fair bit of PC knowledge to even compile the SVN, for the common guy that can't compile the SVN, DeSmuME is advancing just as slowly as any other emu.

yeah youre right and lol i dont have skills on pc but i found how to compile it in 10 minutes (or less)

Butz_san · September 19th, 2009, 23:04

Desmume works awesome, I don't need No$GBA anymore. That's the only advice I can give

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final_cloud27 · September 21st, 2009, 03:59

so for short...desmume is good at high spec pcs ...

KrossX · September 21st, 2009, 16:45

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so for short...desmume is good at high spec pcs ...

Yup, in a nutshell, that's it.
We'll see what happens when the Dynarec finally arrives. XD

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IceColdKiller · September 21st, 2009, 16:24

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Desmume works awesome, I don't need No$GBA anymore. That's the only advice I can give

me too. Off-T: lol im a desmume fan and you are a desmume user

YugiFann · September 30th, 2009, 18:34

No$GBA2.6 works with low end pc with more than playable speed.
all i know

Engeljaeger · October 24th, 2009, 16:53

Heya, I didn't want to start a new thread; I guess this one 'll do.

I'm just wondering why in the No$GBA-forum there's always tons of people browsing while the Desmume-forum seems rather like a ghost town. Because of that I didn't even try Desmume until now seeing that it seems to be great. Also, am I right that No$GBA doesn't seem to get updated anymore, the author is dead or in prison or on Mars or whatever?
So, why is there such lacking interest for Desmume? Is there some big drawback that I don't know of?

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**Hard core Rikki** · October 24th, 2009, 16:58

Desmume needs to focus more on speed or lower hardware requirements if I had to guess. Hyperthreading and multicore support would probably smoke no$gba.

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September 14th, 2009, 23:34	#1
unknowndevil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA/CA Posts: 12	iDeas or no$gba Since I can't really use my ds without my parents watching me, I would like to know which emulator is currently working for me. Before I was using no$gba, but since it didn't update for pretty long time, I would like to see or change a new emulator (desume or iDeaS) if they can actually work better than no$gba. Can anyone give me a suggestion compare iDeaS or no$gba (I exclude desume because I heard it is still worse than both.) Please don't start any unnecessary comment or argument. P.S. I have a pretty good computer right now, which can run pcsx2 pretty well.

September 15th, 2009, 07:54	#2
Smilley Hopeless Optimist Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Austria Posts: 3,012	If you have No$GBA 2.6a, you can still run most new games at playable speeds with the No$Zoomer 2.3.0.2 utility. __________________ No$GBA Quick FAQ: Spoiler: Q1: Savegame doesn't load. A: Set correct save type. Look here, divide by 8! Q2: "Cannot Read Data" error A: See above! Q3: Snapshots? A: Only work for GBA games. Q4: NDS linking, NDS with GBA slot, Picto-Chat, trading, ... A: Not yet available. Q5: When do we get a new version? A: We don't know. Martin won't tell. Q6: Donation down? A: Yes, and we can't do anything about it either. Q7: Game stops without appearent cause. A: Turn the Sound option on. Q8: No$Zoomer problems. A: See here! Q9: What do I need for Pokémon HG/SS? A: This.

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September 15th, 2009, 08:47	#3
nanaya ┐(￣ー￣)┌ Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Dipokusumo Posts: 2,060	For me Desmume runs better than both no$gba and ideas.

September 15th, 2009, 10:27	#4
MaoMao Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 82	Desmume?? LOL LOL yer yes...... LOL LOL "If you have No$GBA 2.6a, you can still run most new games at playable speeds with the No$Zoomer 2.3.0.2 utility"

September 15th, 2009, 10:42	#8
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,413	Moving to misc handheld discussion and deleting your duplicate topic in the iDeaS subforum. Seeing as your computer is pretty good I would say you should mainly use DeSmuME, but it's not a bad idea to keep no$gba around cuz there are still one or two games which play a little better in it. iDeaS unfortunately is marred by horrible audio so unless you plan to play with no sound it's not a good choice and compatibility aint that great anyways (eventhough it can do some things no$gba can't) __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

September 15th, 2009, 15:52	#9
ozzgx4 Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Location: London Posts: 6,866	No$gba is pretty good, although I have never used ideas... __________________ http://ozzgx4.deviantart.com/ When you were born you were crying and everyone around you was smiling, make it through life so that when you die you will be smiling and everyone around you will be crying.

September 16th, 2009, 00:41	#10
unknowndevil Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA/CA Posts: 12	I am currently playing pokemon heart gold.... but playing on ds is really tiring since it is too small. (no$gba also, and I don't like using no zoomer because it sometimes crash for no reason) Yea I really should try desmume.... Last time I search forum and ppl said its really bad so I kinda ignore it. Thanks for advice guys.

September 19th, 2009, 17:28	#11
IceColdKiller Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 0	hey hey hey desmume is the best! that emu is updating every hour and i have the svn version of cource and they add new features almost everyday i cant sleep and...... jesus

September 19th, 2009, 17:34	#12
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Most-expensive-Internet-on-the-Planet Land : South Africa Posts: 26,413	Just cuz something constantly gets worked one does not mean it's constantly getting better, some revisions to an SVN have to be withdrawn cuz they breaks that were already on place, or perhaps they come with an unreasonable resource use. Emulation is a trial and error thing, one step forward one step back untill you finally find that breakthrough but somtimes that can take days, weeks, even months depending on what's wrong. So yes DeSmuME is good, and it's good that it's actively being worked on, but it's hardly improving as rapidly as you say it is. Plus you need a fair bit of PC knowledge to even compile the SVN, for the common guy that can't compile the SVN, DeSmuME is advancing just as slowly as any other emu. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

September 19th, 2009, 23:04	#14
Butz_san DeSmuME user :D Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ecuador Posts: 714	Desmume works awesome, I don't need No$GBA anymore. That's the only advice I can give __________________ PC: i3: 3..7Ghz Debian 7.0 Wheeze with EDR17 Kernel 3.9.0 amd64

September 21st, 2009, 03:59	#15
final_cloud27 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: philippines Posts: 2	so for short...desmume is good at high spec pcs ...

September 30th, 2009, 18:34	#18
YugiFann Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: USA Posts: 124	No$GBA2.6 works with low end pc with more than playable speed. all i know

October 24th, 2009, 16:53	#19
Engeljaeger Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: germany Posts: 74	Heya, I didn't want to start a new thread; I guess this one 'll do. I'm just wondering why in the No$GBA-forum there's always tons of people browsing while the Desmume-forum seems rather like a ghost town. Because of that I didn't even try Desmume until now seeing that it seems to be great. Also, am I right that No$GBA doesn't seem to get updated anymore, the author is dead or in prison or on Mars or whatever? So, why is there such lacking interest for Desmume? Is there some big drawback that I don't know of? __________________ (StripTheSoul in Dolphin Forum) Specs: Intel Core2Quad Q6600 @ 2400MHz, OC’d to 3400MHz (+ Scythe Mugen) - Abit IP35 Pro - 2x 1GB Corsair XMS2 DHX DDR2-800 (4-4-4-12-T1) - NesteQ EECS 7001 700W PSU - Gigabyte nVidia Geforce 8800GTS (G92-512MB) - Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Xtreme Music - 2x Western Digital (Caviar SE WD800JD) 80GB @ RAID0 - Windows 7 Pro 64bit

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