Pete's D3D vs. his OGL

Archlyn · December 21st, 2001

I've just purchased a GeForce 2 TI AGP card and I resetup my ePSXe to use Pete's OGL plugin..

If I have Framebuffer textures set to "GFX Card buffer" it's slow... It says it can be slow so that's ok... but if I have Pete's D3D configured in the same manner (IE using the GFX card buffer for frame buffer textures) it plays normally (not slow). What's the difference here?

(BTW, in both cases it's his 1.55 plugin)

**Pete Bernert** · December 21st, 2001

the ogl plugin uses big ass hi-res textures (slower, needing more vram, but usually
better looking), while the d3d ones are using small textures (faster, but more
pixelated looking).

Well, you can improve the speed of framebuffer textures in the ogl plugin by using
a smaller window/fullscreen resolution... and prolly enabled fsaa will also be a
speed killer with fb textures.

aoshi · December 21st, 2001

usually the drivers make the difference(well atleast for me) when i switched from the old 6.50 drivers to 12.xx drivers(some months ago before 2x.xx came out) there was a very noticeable difference with framebuffer textures were set to gfx card buffer. try changing drivers or tweaking them. also what Pete said is right FSAA + gfx card buffer can cause great slowdown specially with fbf(heck even fvram primitives is faster sometimes) game fix turned on.

also from experience with my geforce i found the OGL plugin to be faster than the D3D one

Archlyn · December 21st, 2001

Ah, the imfamous FSAA, actually pete I haven't figured out how to toggle that (I've found the driverpage in my dispay settings and have the antialiasing set to auto-detect, but the only other two are 2x and 4x AA)

How can I check if I ahve FSAA on or not?

aoshi · December 21st, 2001

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Originally posted by Archlyn
Ah, the imfamous FSAA, actually pete I haven't figured out how to toggle that (I've found the driverpage in my dispay settings and have the antialiasing set to auto-detect, but the only other two are 2x and 4x AA)

How can I check if I ahve FSAA on or not?

based from my experience having the FSAA setting to auto will not turn on FSAA in ePSXe(unless a plugin does an AA function call). well i can be wrong, so try seting it to manual then click on off.

Archlyn · December 21st, 2001

This started last night... then I got up this morning, tested and posted about it, reformated, and the problem went away..... Weird

December 21st, 2001	#1 (permalink)
Archlyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The land of Insanity Posts: 571	Pete's D3D vs. his OGL I've just purchased a GeForce 2 TI AGP card and I resetup my ePSXe to use Pete's OGL plugin.. If I have Framebuffer textures set to "GFX Card buffer" it's slow... It says it can be slow so that's ok... but if I have Pete's D3D configured in the same manner (IE using the GFX card buffer for frame buffer textures) it plays normally (not slow). What's the difference here? (BTW, in both cases it's his 1.55 plugin) __________________ Computer Specs: ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (nForce4) \| AMD Athlon X2 3800 @ 2.0ghz \| 2x1.0GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 RAM (128-bit DDR mode) \| GeForce 7600 w/ 256mb VRAM \| Onboard Sound - for now OS1 : Windows XP / SP2 \| Direct X 9 OS2 : Gentoo Linux 2006.0 OS3 : Windows Vista Beta 2 ePSXe config: Pete's OpenGL 2.0 \| Eternal SPU 1.4 \| ePSXe Internal CD core (W2K) Project 64 config Jabo's D3D7 1.5 \| Jabo's DSound 1.5 \| Jabo's DInput 1.5

December 21st, 2001	#3 (permalink)
aoshi poor loser Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Pilipinas Posts: 310	usually the drivers make the difference(well atleast for me) when i switched from the old 6.50 drivers to 12.xx drivers(some months ago before 2x.xx came out) there was a very noticeable difference with framebuffer textures were set to gfx card buffer. try changing drivers or tweaking them. also what Pete said is right FSAA + gfx card buffer can cause great slowdown specially with fbf(heck even fvram primitives is faster sometimes) game fix turned on. also from experience with my geforce i found the OGL plugin to be faster than the D3D one __________________ tech head with a poor budget

December 21st, 2001	#4 (permalink)
Archlyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The land of Insanity Posts: 571	Ah, the imfamous FSAA, actually pete I haven't figured out how to toggle that (I've found the driverpage in my dispay settings and have the antialiasing set to auto-detect, but the only other two are 2x and 4x AA) How can I check if I ahve FSAA on or not? __________________ Computer Specs: ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (nForce4) \| AMD Athlon X2 3800 @ 2.0ghz \| 2x1.0GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 RAM (128-bit DDR mode) \| GeForce 7600 w/ 256mb VRAM \| Onboard Sound - for now OS1 : Windows XP / SP2 \| Direct X 9 OS2 : Gentoo Linux 2006.0 OS3 : Windows Vista Beta 2 ePSXe config: Pete's OpenGL 2.0 \| Eternal SPU 1.4 \| ePSXe Internal CD core (W2K) Project 64 config Jabo's D3D7 1.5 \| Jabo's DSound 1.5 \| Jabo's DInput 1.5

December 21st, 2001	#6 (permalink)
Archlyn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The land of Insanity Posts: 571	Weirdness This started last night... then I got up this morning, tested and posted about it, reformated, and the problem went away..... Weird __________________ Computer Specs: ASUS A8N SLI Deluxe (nForce4) \| AMD Athlon X2 3800 @ 2.0ghz \| 2x1.0GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 RAM (128-bit DDR mode) \| GeForce 7600 w/ 256mb VRAM \| Onboard Sound - for now OS1 : Windows XP / SP2 \| Direct X 9 OS2 : Gentoo Linux 2006.0 OS3 : Windows Vista Beta 2 ePSXe config: Pete's OpenGL 2.0 \| Eternal SPU 1.4 \| ePSXe Internal CD core (W2K) Project 64 config Jabo's D3D7 1.5 \| Jabo's DSound 1.5 \| Jabo's DInput 1.5 Last edited by Archlyn; December 21st, 2001 at 16:56.

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December 21st, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Pete Bernert FREAK Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 874	the ogl plugin uses big ass hi-res textures (slower, needing more vram, but usually better looking), while the d3d ones are using small textures (faster, but more pixelated looking). Well, you can improve the speed of framebuffer textures in the ogl plugin by using a smaller window/fullscreen resolution... and prolly enabled fsaa will also be a speed killer with fb textures.