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Old September 8th, 2006   #1 (permalink)
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Speed issues, WTF!?

I reeeally donīt get these...

PSXE, MGS skips big time right in greeting, oh why?
ePSXe, newest one makes same thing than PSXE, 1.5.2 works, but where in **** is great rumble feature, It would be great to do something with controller that ****ing cost 50 €...
SSSPSX, Now theres a statue to all other emulators to take look, but wtf is with SUPERSPEEDAH MDEC?
Bleem didnīt even run...
PSXemu pro, so pro that it didnīt even run MGS...
PCSX, skipper, i would say. skips the whole fu*k

Now, if emulator says it is RECOMED have machine this and this and this, It would be great to work, but if ALL of the whole army of PSX emulators canīt get SECOND game working... weīre in serious trouble...
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Another rant topic
this has nothing to do with plugins, so wrong section.

and the reason a lot of the emus are skipping is simply because of your system specs... sorry.
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Yeah, but if this version of SSSPSX have MDEC issues have you tried older version?
And have you tried changing plugins?
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actually the emulator works, don;t blame everything on it. If you want to run the game, upgrade your system, I have a p3 600Mhz with ati rage fury pro and 256mb ram and can't run epsxe more than 10 frames per second most of he time in gran turismo.
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your computer is crap. bottom line. yes i know that the ePSXe readme says that you have the recommended settings. well that list is really, really old.

you can run ePSXe with that,you're going to have to sacrifice a lot. use OGL and do the fast preset, and turn on FPS limit and turn on the PC FPS special game fix. use Eternal Lite for sound.
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Now, if emulator says it is RECOMED have machine this and this and this, It would be great to work, but if ALL of the whole army of PSX emulators can´t get SECOND game working... we´re in serious trouble...
Considering your PC is crap, I recommend an upgrade or playing using a real PlayStation. Constantly b*tching about it won't make these emulators work on your PC.
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I just wonder why Any emulator hasnīt runned MGS from beginning to end without making bugs... 1-5-2 version Of ePSXe is Good, also SSSPSX is great one, but none of other emulators have some issue...
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Emulation is not an easy task, no PSX emulator will ever run the game in the same way as the real hardware do,
and another thing is that you need a fairly decent computer to be able to run emulators without problems.

Btw: You haven't tried PSXeven, but i can assure you that the results will be the same -> you need to upgrade your PC.
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wow, you must be psycho mantis...

Casue i HAVE tried PSXeven, but, you were right.

I know that emulation is never easy thing, and that happens. To get one thing wotk by changing emulator, you lose one thing. That is great that theyre making project from all emulators, but theyre need better machine.

I know that i have to pgrade but i wonīt get that kind of money from nowhere, im 14, and computers are pretty expensive, especially here in finland...

Best thing what i could get would be about 1.2 ghz celeron for PGA 370 slot and one 254 or about 500 mb SDRAM -Ram memory "stick" or something... And new Power unit, couse this oneīs cooler is making itīs last...

My sis wonīt give old PSone back EVEN than she has PS2. I got only GameCube...

Thats it, i just wonder that MGS running, and allmighty speed issue. Pete hasnīt made SO good work, as (for some *****ing reason) D3D plugins, even DX6 one, Is slower than OGL, and OGL isnīt so great. I found one, nikkis GL, speedy, but fullscreen doesnīt work, and it doesnīt have ability to hide start menu. And colors are really bad...

And one plugin thats is good, i heard, is for voodoo card, what is too old to try run on GF2Ti card... I got games running, about... six from seven perfectly, MGS had Mdec speed broblem. If thereīs not more than just Otakuīs nuclear powered yapping mdecs, its cool, i think.

I think this was somewhat un-useful topic, but, well, thanks!
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dude maybe its cause your hardware is from 1996. upgrade and then we will talk. btw a new decent pc only costs like $500.
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A 400MHz celeron with voodoo3 card is sufficient for most PSX games.
I guess that the difference between non-voodoo gpu's and the psx gpu is bit greater so a faster cpu is required to cope things out (like 600 MHz). I would try it with ePSXe 1.5.2, internal CD, internal or Peops sound, OGL1,4444 textures. Some experimenting with the compatibility settings is also required (if 1:1:0 works then leave it that way).
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wow, you must be psycho mantis...
Damn, now everyone will know...
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Best thing what i could get would be about 1.2 ghz celeron for PGA 370 slot and one 254 or about 500 mb SDRAM -Ram memory "stick" or something... And new Power unit, couse this oneīs cooler is making itīs last...
That should be enough to run games at least with acceptable speeds.
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My sis wonīt give old PSone back EVEN than she has PS2. I got only GameCube...
Heh, i can't help you with that, lol, just talk with her and ask her if she can give you PSone...
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Thats it, i just wonder that MGS running, and allmighty speed issue. Pete hasnīt made SO good work, as (for some *****ing reason) D3D plugins, even DX6 one, Is slower than OGL, and OGL isnīt so great. I found one, nikkis GL, speedy, but fullscreen doesnīt work, and it doesnīt have ability to hide start menu. And colors are really bad...
As i said emulation is not an easy thing, personally i find Pete's plugins the best ones, as far as i'm concerned Pete did a great job.
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And one plugin thats is good, i heard, is for voodoo card, what is too old to try run on GF2Ti card... I got games running, about... six from seven perfectly, MGS had Mdec speed broblem. If thereīs not more than just Otakuīs nuclear powered yapping mdecs, its cool, i think.
Yeah that is a Lewpy's plugin for Voodoo cards.
MGS have around 3 FMV's i think, i have PC fps calc turned on so i too have too fast MDECs but i don't care...
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I think this was somewhat un-useful topic, but, well, thanks!
Maybe, but we can't find the magic solution for you to run PSX emulators perfectly on your pc.
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No, but SSSPSX has done great job, i dunno, maybe someone who knows japanese can tell them to try fixing that MGS mdec trouble for 0.0.35 version. Newest 0.0.34 hadnīt any effect, But three is magig number for all Mdec sequenses in Otaconīs yapping ībout Metallica Gear -section. I use PC FPS calc too for MGS, but it only speeded up sound to mdec. So, otacon sounded like micky mouse, when a superspeedy nuclear blow-a-****up happened... I took it, it wasnīt so bad. and fight againts Psycho mantis WAS great, when had rumble on in SSSPSX... I sat on bench, so controller moved on my leg. well, moved and moved... Weird was to play fight itself, when controller rumbling on my leg, and i am hitting keyboard like a crazy.

BUT, ps emulation has took good one: all PSX emulators work great and so, but when i tried N64... maan, it wasnīt so pretty. Oh, well, in reality N64 was technicälly better But 1964 and project64 lack both a good OGL plugin. i could even mix (almost) ssspsx with SSSPSX pad plugin and Petes OGL and E-SPU

I checked that nes emu too, weeird best really needs an over,over, overoverver speedy machine compared to nes itself. In hand emulators are good thing, in other, they lack original, bu if machine has enough, emu can go over original, well, my machine hasnīt...

upgrading isnīt happening in some time, but well, when mgs runs normally, FF9 nomally /w frameskip, and doa with minimum setting in OGL plugin, and the big pile of other game too, i am happy.
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dude maybe its cause your hardware is from 1996. upgrade and then we will talk. btw a new decent pc only costs like $500.
97/98, i believe. i remember when i was 11, we had a P1 133 and we were about to upgrade to--get this--a 550mhz P3!! WOO HOO!! and that was top of the line too, it was the fastest processor that HP was selling at the time. and a 14.2gb hdd, that blew my mind at the time (coming from my old 1.5gb).

his GF2 isn't actually that bad. i got FF9 running fine on a celeron 800 with GF2mx. he doesn't have the mx so he's ok.

five bucks says jeretheend's PC just needs a reformat and some proper drivers and then PSX emulation will run smooth as buttah.
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1999/2000 I'd say... unless the UK was behind back then. My first PC was a 500MHZ/128MB RAM PC. Was the best thing you could buy back then. It ran Bleem almost-perfectly as well.

And yeah, I'd recommend a fresh windows install. It does wonders. Make sure it's Windows 98 though, I wouldn't even think of putting XP on something less than 1Ghz.
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1999/2000 I'd say... unless the UK was behind back then. My first PC was a 500MHZ/128MB RAM PC. Was the best thing you could buy back then. It ran Bleem almost-perfectly as well.

And yeah, I'd recommend a fresh windows install. It does wonders. Make sure it's Windows 98 though, I wouldn't even think of putting XP on something less than 1Ghz.
XP runs very well on older CPU's. The main thing is RAM. As long as you have enough, it will be fine. I used XP on P2 333's with 192 MB RAM and it was quite speedy with going around in the GUI.
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yep, in mater infact, it doesnīt matter if i use 1 ghz game in my 500 mhz processor.

oooohhhh, wow, i just noticed one thing, in MGS mdecs, the TEXT goes way fast, and sound if gonfigured funny. But in else, SOUND and video goes in normal speed but text goes superfastly over...

Good work in this emulation. you donīt believe this, but P3 is more cabaple machine than you can believe. of course, if you wanna, you have to upgrade every 3 months...

I got all games now running...

HEH, BTW checked from friendīs playstation last day, the menus and codec in MGS has not-meant flickering in emulator... its weird... but i can take it.
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