Substractive Blending

Aleksei (St) · April 15th, 2003

its just a question, if Ati repairs that issue (reverse substractive blending) will the problems with ati cards dissapear?

**Kane** · April 15th, 2003

>its just a question, if Ati repairs that issue (reverse substractive blending) will the problems with ati cards dissapear?

I wish. IIRC they were meant to be fixed in the Cat 3.2s but they ended up buggering up everything else. There is also the faster palletized textures (Not really an issue, apart from in certain very specific games such as Ghost in the Shell). I don't have great faith in the ATi driver team, but I think the 3.1s with a reverse subtractive blending fix would pretty much sort it....

Badaro · April 15th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Kane
I wish. IIRC they were meant to be fixed in the Cat 3.2s but they ended up buggering up everything else.

IIRC the original post at Rage3D said they would be fixed in 3.2 or 3.3. So, maybe we'll get lucky with the next one.

[]s Badaro

**Kane** · April 15th, 2003

>IIRC the original post at Rage3D said they would be fixed in 3.2 or 3.3. So, maybe we'll get lucky with the next one.

Astounding the amount of faith ATi users have isn't it.
*Returns to worship at the altar of nVidia*

**Shadow Lady** · April 16th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Badaro

IIRC the original post at Rage3D said they would be fixed in 3.2 or 3.3. So, maybe we'll get lucky with the next one.

[]s Badaro

and when 3.3 ios out we will be hoping it to be fized in the next ones

Badaro · April 16th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Kane
>IIRC the original post at Rage3D said they would be fixed in 3.2 or 3.3. So, maybe we'll get lucky with the next one.

Astounding the amount of faith ATi users have isn't it.
*Returns to worship at the altar of nVidia*

Kane,

Is there any purpose of this post besides bashing ATI? If not, why did you even bother posting it?

[]s Badaro

FrancoisC · May 12th, 2003

Well, I tried the leaked Cat 3.3, and substractive blending is indeed fixed. No need for this special game fix anymore

Aleksei (St) · May 12th, 2003

where do you get them !

FrancoisC · May 12th, 2003

The can easily be found... just search for "dell cat 3.3" or something like it. But I suggest you wait, the Cat 3.4 are due to be released officialy between may 12 and may 15.

**Shadow Lady** · May 13th, 2003

I dont know, for me it seems that this issue is working on the Catalyst 3.2 but that is just me ^^'

**Yeloazndevil** · May 13th, 2003

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Originally posted by FrancoisC
The can easily be found... just search for "dell cat 3.3" or something like it. But I suggest you wait, the Cat 3.4 are due to be released officialy between may 12 and may 15.

how did u get it to work IIRC sxamiga couldn't install them

FrancoisC · May 13th, 2003

I modified the inf files.... the were just for the rad 9700, but by modifying it it worked on all cards

Aleksei (St) · May 13th, 2003

i tohught tha sxamiga has a 9700???

**Yeloazndevil** · May 13th, 2003

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Originally posted by Aleksei (St)
i tohught tha sxamiga has a 9700???

he does

Aleksei (St) · May 13th, 2003

then he is saying bull@#%$

ôr what?

dhkimboa · May 13th, 2003

he wasn't saying that....
as frans stated, he installed modified ones.
anyway, hope 3.4 comes out soon

FrancoisC · May 13th, 2003

Like he said

They need to be modified to work, otherwise the only work on dell's OEM card. Anyway, the 3.4 are comming in a matters of day now, so no point in discussing these anymore

**Shadow Lady** · May 13th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Aleksei (St)
i tohught tha sxamiga has a 9700???

well... he does, but he has a pro one ;p

Aleksei (St) · May 16th, 2003

no need for subtractive blending fix with cats 3.4(well just a prob with the epsxe exit)

April 15th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Aleksei (St) In Love! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ensenada Mexico Posts: 704	Substractive Blending its just a question, if Ati repairs that issue (reverse substractive blending) will the problems with ati cards dissapear? __________________

April 15th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	>its just a question, if Ati repairs that issue (reverse substractive blending) will the problems with ati cards dissapear? I wish. IIRC they were meant to be fixed in the Cat 3.2s but they ended up buggering up everything else. There is also the faster palletized textures (Not really an issue, apart from in certain very specific games such as Ghost in the Shell). I don't have great faith in the ATi driver team, but I think the 3.1s with a reverse subtractive blending fix would pretty much sort it.... __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

April 15th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	>IIRC the original post at Rage3D said they would be fixed in 3.2 or 3.3. So, maybe we'll get lucky with the next one. Astounding the amount of faith ATi users have isn't it. Returns to worship at the altar of nVidia __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

May 12th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Aleksei (St) In Love! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ensenada Mexico Posts: 704	where do you get them ! __________________

May 13th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,971	I dont know, for me it seems that this issue is working on the Catalyst 3.2 but that is just me ^^' __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

May 12th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
FrancoisC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 58	Well, I tried the leaked Cat 3.3, and substractive blending is indeed fixed. No need for this special game fix anymore

May 12th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
FrancoisC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 58	The can easily be found... just search for "dell cat 3.3" or something like it. But I suggest you wait, the Cat 3.4 are due to be released officialy between may 12 and may 15.

May 13th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
FrancoisC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 58	I modified the inf files.... the were just for the rad 9700, but by modifying it it worked on all cards

May 13th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Aleksei (St) In Love! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ensenada Mexico Posts: 704	i tohught tha sxamiga has a 9700??? __________________

May 13th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Aleksei (St) In Love! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ensenada Mexico Posts: 704	then he is saying bull@#%$ ôr what? __________________

May 13th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
dhkimboa BOA Join Date: May 2001 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,884	he wasn't saying that.... as frans stated, he installed modified ones. anyway, hope 3.4 comes out soon

May 13th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
FrancoisC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 58	Like he said They need to be modified to work, otherwise the only work on dell's OEM card. Anyway, the 3.4 are comming in a matters of day now, so no point in discussing these anymore

May 16th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
Aleksei (St) In Love! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ensenada Mexico Posts: 704	no need for subtractive blending fix with cats 3.4(well just a prob with the epsxe exit) __________________

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