Benchmarking Framebuffer Access

Badaro · March 5th, 2003

Heya,

Not sure if everyone read, but Pete made this post earlier today, related to the results of the benchmarks he receieved:

Quote:

But what surprised me most: I've seen all kind of complains that ATI cards are not performing well with framebuffer textures. But the test results are speaking a different language: at least the 8xxx/9xxx cards should have a playable speed (>60 psx fps) most times. My guess is that often some kind of FSAA is enabled, which is a real speed killer for this type of operation. Also: if you are having speed troubles, try to lower the gpu resolution, less data has to get moved that way.

Seems like, at least in theory, the Radeons should be able to perform well with Framebuffer effects. It's been a while since I played any game that uses framebuffer effects a lot, so I decided to do some benchmarking to see how things are going.

Test: Xenogears Opening Scene
Configuration: See attached file.

For this test, I made a savestate of Xenogears right before the "Burning Village" scene in the opening. I'd let it run for 10-20s, and write down the average FPS. I did this for two resolutions (1024x768 and 640x840), two texture settings (8-8-8-8 and Don't Care), and two color depths (16-Bit and 32-Bit). I'd also make a test in the most demanding settings with Full VRAM Primitives for the sake of comparision.

Well, here's the results:

Code:

***** Benchmarks - Pete's D3D *****

Color  Resolution Texture    FPS
16 Bit 1024x768   8888       20-27
32 Bit 1024x768   8888       20-25
16 Bit 1024x768   Don't Care 20-27
32 Bit 1024x768   Don't Care 20-25
16 Bit 640x480    8888       23-30
32 Bit 640x480    8888       20-28
16 Bit 640x480    Don't Care 24-31
32 Bit 640x480    Don't Care 20-28

Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 35-40 FPS

***** Benchmarks - OpenGL *****

Color  Resolution Texture    FPS
16 Bit 1024x768   8888       03-05
32 Bit 1024x768   8888       03-05
16 Bit 1024x768   Don't Care 03-05
32 Bit 1024x768   Don't Care 03-05
16 Bit 640x480    8888       08-11
32 Bit 640x480    8888       08-11
16 Bit 640x480    Don't Care 08-11
32 Bit 640x480    Don't Care 08-11

Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 45-55 FPS

As you can see, at least here D3D is pretty slow, and OpenGL is almost a slideshow! I have only a 800MHz but FVP is by far a better option then GFX Card Buffer.

Any other Radeon or GeForce users feel like trying this and sharing the results? The configuration I used is in the attached file.

[]s Badaro

**Chrono Archangel** · March 5th, 2003

ill try it at home with my Hercules....ill probably get 00-00 FPS

**cooliscool** · March 5th, 2003

Pete's texture/framebuffer speed test
Mail: BlackDove@addcom.de
Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Version: 1.3.0
Renderer: GeForce2 MX/PCI/3DNOW!

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OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_weighting GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_evaluators GL_NV_fence GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_texgen_emboss GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
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Texture uploading speed
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Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.4353 Mtex/s 49.741 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.645 Mtex/s 50.58 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 6.28936 Mtex/s 25.1574 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.6703 Mtex/s 50.6812 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.6266 Mtex/s 50.5064 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 6.33377 Mtex/s 25.3351 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.2288 Mtex/s 48.9152 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.5049 Mtex/s 50.0195 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 5.95782 Mtex/s 23.8313 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 11.6397 Mtex/s 46.5587 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 12.9238 Mtex/s 25.8476 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.3863 Mtex/s 49.5452 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 12.7013 Mtex/s 25.4026 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 11.2503 Mtex/s 33.751 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (back)
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.00068 Mtex/s 28.0027 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.45867 Mtex/s 29.8347 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 75.2213 Mtex/s 300.885 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.4031 Mtex/s 29.6124 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.74477 Mtex/s 30.9791 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 135.043 Mtex/s 540.17 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.69857 Mtex/s 30.7943 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.63061 Mtex/s 30.5224 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 74.9161 Mtex/s 299.664 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 7.6575 Mtex/s 30.63 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 7.46861 Mtex/s 14.9372 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.31819 Mtex/s 29.2727 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.51479 Mtex/s 15.0296 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 147.325 Mtex/s 441.975 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (front)
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Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.59205 Mtex/s 30.3682 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.32051 Mtex/s 29.282 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 74.5175 Mtex/s 298.07 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.69089 Mtex/s 30.7636 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.73325 Mtex/s 30.933 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 74.3423 Mtex/s 297.369 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.66516 Mtex/s 30.6606 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.67676 Mtex/s 30.7071 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 134.981 Mtex/s 539.924 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 7.76658 Mtex/s 31.0663 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 7.77176 Mtex/s 15.5435 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.67166 Mtex/s 30.6866 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 7.73325 Mtex/s 15.4665 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 146.905 Mtex/s 440.714 MB/s

Badaro · March 5th, 2003

Cooliscool,

From what I read of the test description, that behavior is expected. And what I really want to know is the actual speed of framebuffer effects in the game. If you have Xenogears can you see how fast the opening scene performs with the settings I posted?

[]s Badaro

chp · March 5th, 2003

Here are my results when usin my AIW8500DV @ 1024*768 in 32bits

OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_S3_s3tc GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_blend GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_element_array GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_map_object_buffer GL_ATI_pn_triangles GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATI_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object GL_ATI_vertex_streams GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATIX_texture_env_route GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texgen_reflection GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_shader GL_HP_occlusion_test GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_extensions_string WGL_EXT_swap_control
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Texture uploading speed
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 94.918 Mtex/s 379.672 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 96.9237 Mtex/s 387.695 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 68.1435 Mtex/s 272.574 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 97.168 Mtex/s 388.672 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 96.8622 Mtex/s 387.449 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 61.0148 Mtex/s 244.059 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 93.6073 Mtex/s 374.429 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 93.4325 Mtex/s 373.73 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 60.7956 Mtex/s 243.182 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 93.6291 Mtex/s 374.516 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 222.058 Mtex/s 444.116 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 96.9496 Mtex/s 387.798 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 9.28427 Mtex/s 18.5685 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 121.941 Mtex/s 365.822 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (back)
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.672 Mtex/s 910.688 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.803 Mtex/s 911.213 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 158.422 Mtex/s 633.689 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.082 Mtex/s 908.329 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.825 Mtex/s 911.3 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 158.532 Mtex/s 634.126 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.475 Mtex/s 909.902 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.768 Mtex/s 911.072 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 158.575 Mtex/s 634.301 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 227.454 Mtex/s 909.814 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 227.847 Mtex/s 455.694 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.65 Mtex/s 910.601 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 227.191 Mtex/s 454.383 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 227.41 Mtex/s 682.23 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (front)
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.405 Mtex/s 869.619 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.754 Mtex/s 871.017 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 153.66 Mtex/s 614.64 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.317 Mtex/s 869.27 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.536 Mtex/s 870.143 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 153.551 Mtex/s 614.203 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.383 Mtex/s 869.532 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.885 Mtex/s 871.541 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 153.595 Mtex/s 614.378 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 217.033 Mtex/s 868.134 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 217.951 Mtex/s 435.902 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.667 Mtex/s 870.668 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 217.296 Mtex/s 434.591 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 217.427 Mtex/s 652.28 MB/s

Zeke_D · March 5th, 2003

a) PNY GeForce 2 MX400 64MB SDRAM default clock/core
b) Windows XP Home SP1
c) 4300 dets : 6.14.01.4300
d) 16-bit @ 1024*768
e) other test matches "good_rs_blending
---------------------------------

Pete's texture/framebuffer speed test
Mail: BlackDove@addcom.de
Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Version: 1.4.0
Renderer: GeForce2 MX/AGP/3DNOW!

---------------------------------
OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_fence GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NVX_ycrcb GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
---------------------------------

Texture uploading speed
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 22.2744 Mtex/s 89.0975 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 26.3977 Mtex/s 105.591 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 20.7909 Mtex/s 83.1635 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.7442 Mtex/s 114.977 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.6011 Mtex/s 114.404 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 83.2508 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.7224 Mtex/s 114.89 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 23.9761 Mtex/s 95.9042 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 16.1222 Mtex/s 64.4888 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 24.2815 Mtex/s 97.1259 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 30.7507 Mtex/s 61.5013 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 25.1105 Mtex/s 100.442 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 34.1861 Mtex/s 68.3721 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 28.5575 Mtex/s 85.6724 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (back)
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.5793 Mtex/s 114.317 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.5916 Mtex/s 114.366 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 246.414 Mtex/s 985.658 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.6447 Mtex/s 114.579 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.4607 Mtex/s 113.843 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 245.956 Mtex/s 983.825 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.5356 Mtex/s 114.143 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.5043 Mtex/s 114.017 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 246.305 Mtex/s 985.222 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 28.3517 Mtex/s 113.407 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 25.3505 Mtex/s 50.701 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 23.3652 Mtex/s 93.4608 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 24.6005 Mtex/s 49.2011 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 259.897 Mtex/s 779.691 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (front)
---------------------------------

Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 27.7284 Mtex/s 110.914 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 26.5067 Mtex/s 106.027 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 244.058 Mtex/s 976.233 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 26.8776 Mtex/s 107.51 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 26.716 Mtex/s 106.864 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 243.535 Mtex/s 974.139 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.0775 Mtex/s 112.31 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 27.4357 Mtex/s 109.743 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 245.804 Mtex/s 983.215 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 28.3953 Mtex/s 113.581 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 29.1029 Mtex/s 58.2057 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.4484 Mtex/s 113.794 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.4389 Mtex/s 56.8778 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0
Speed: 262.144 Mtex/s 786.432 MB/s

Zeke_D · March 5th, 2003

a) PNY GeForce 2 MX400 64MB SDRAM default clock/core
b) Windows XP Home SP1
c) 4300 dets : 6.14.01.4300
d) 32-bit @ 1024*768
e) other test matches "good_rs_blending

---------------------------------
Pete's texture/framebuffer speed test
Mail: BlackDove@addcom.de
Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Version: 1.4.0
Renderer: GeForce2 MX/AGP/3DNOW!

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OpenGL extensions:
GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_fence GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NVX_ycrcb GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control
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Texture uploading speed
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Format: 01 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 17.6712 Mtex/s 70.6846 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 19.7807 Mtex/s 79.123 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 20.0055 Mtex/s 80.022 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 20.1582 Mtex/s 80.6328 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 20.2169 Mtex/s 80.8677 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 20.2018 Mtex/s 80.8074 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 21.1399 Mtex/s 84.5598 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 15.8333 Mtex/s 63.3333 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 21.729 Mtex/s 86.9159 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 28.732 Mtex/s 114.928 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 34.1529 Mtex/s 68.3057 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 28.5356 Mtex/s 114.143 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 33.0298 Mtex/s 66.0596 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=0
Speed: 18.9302 Mtex/s 56.7906 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (back)
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Format: 01 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.382 Mtex/s 825.527 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.862 Mtex/s 827.447 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 196.935 Mtex/s 787.741 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 200.971 Mtex/s 803.885 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 203.151 Mtex/s 812.603 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 199.706 Mtex/s 798.824 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.291 Mtex/s 825.165 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 205.986 Mtex/s 823.943 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.142 Mtex/s 824.567 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 83.2508 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 20.8781 Mtex/s 41.7563 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 20.8494 Mtex/s 83.3976 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 41.6254 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=0
Speed: 206.818 Mtex/s 620.454 MB/s

Framebuffer texture speed (front)
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Format: 01 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.771 Mtex/s 827.084 MB/s

Format: 02 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.662 Mtex/s 826.648 MB/s

Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.444 Mtex/s 825.775 MB/s

Format: 04 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.316 Mtex/s 825.265 MB/s

Format: 05 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.753 Mtex/s 827.01 MB/s

Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.229 Mtex/s 824.916 MB/s

Format: 07 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.709 Mtex/s 826.836 MB/s

Format: 08 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.578 Mtex/s 826.312 MB/s

Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8
Speed: 206.597 Mtex/s 826.386 MB/s

Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 20.7403 Mtex/s 82.9614 MB/s

Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1
Speed: 20.7036 Mtex/s 41.4072 MB/s

Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 83.2508 MB/s

Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4
Speed: 20.7403 Mtex/s 41.4807 MB/s

Format: 14 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=0
Speed: 206.556 Mtex/s 619.669 MB/s

Badaro · March 6th, 2003

Guys, thanks for you help, but I think I need to make myself clear. What I want is not the results for Pete's bench application. I want to know the actual FPS you get on ePSXe in situations where you need Framebuffer Access, such as the opening scene in Xenogears or the battle transitions in FF9.

[]s Badaro

**Dark Watcher** · March 6th, 2003

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Version: 1.4.0
GeForce4 MX 420/PCI/SSE 64MB

Xenogears Opening Scene Benchmark

***** Benchmarks - Pete's D3D *****

Color Resolution Texture FPS
16 Bit 1024x768 8888 13-17
32 Bit 1024x768 8888 11-15
16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 13-17
32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 11-15
16 Bit 640x480 8888 13-18
32 Bit 640x480 8888 12-16
16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 13-18
32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 12-16

Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 15-20 FPS

***** Benchmarks - OpenGL *****

Color Resolution Texture FPS
16 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28
32 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28
16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28
32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28
16 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39
32 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39
16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39
32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39

Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 38-51
FPS

**Dark Watcher** · March 6th, 2003

Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
Version: 1.4.0
GeForce4 MX 420/PCI/SSE 64MB

Xenogears Opening Scene Benchmark

***** Benchmarks - Pete's D3D *****

Color Resolution Texture FPS
16 Bit 1024x768 8888 13-17
32 Bit 1024x768 8888 11-15
16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 13-17
32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 11-15
16 Bit 640x480 8888 13-18
32 Bit 640x480 8888 12-16
16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 13-18
32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 12-16

Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 15-20 FPS

***** Benchmarks - OpenGL *****

Color Resolution Texture FPS
16 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28
32 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28
16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28
32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28
16 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39
32 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39
16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39
32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39

Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 38-51
FPS

chp · March 6th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Badaro
Guys, thanks for you help, but I think I need to make myself clear. What I want is not the results for Pete's bench application. I want to know the actual FPS you get on ePSXe in situations where you need Framebuffer Access, such as the opening scene in Xenogears or the battle transitions in FF9.

[]s Badaro

Badaro,

Up now, I had no slowdowns in the opening scene of Xenogears.... And to be more precise, I began to play it for the 3rd time since last weekend (I'm mad of that game). The only problems I got the 1st time I played it, it's some well knowk probs in the dream seq.

Nota : When looking at the other posts, How it could possible to have so much diffs between my system and the others in the Pete's tex bench?

BTW: Here is my config on my AIW8500DV:

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.68
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: ATI Technologies Inc.
GFX card: Radeon 8500 DDR x86/MMX/3DNow!/SSE

Resolution/Color:
- 960x720 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [32 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- R8G8A8A8
- Filtering: 3
- Hi-Res textures: off
- Palettized tex windows: on
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 3
- Framebuffer texture: 3
- Framebuffer access: 4
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: on

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Screen cushion: off
- Game fixes: on [00000400]

Badaro · March 6th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by chp
Up now, I had no slowdowns in the opening scene of Xenogears.... And to be more precise, I began to play it for the 3rd time since last weekend (I'm mad of that game). The only problems I got the 1st time I played it, it's some well knowk probs in the dream seq.

Look at these options:

- Framebuffer texture: 3
- Framebuffer access: 4

You have Full VRAM Primitives on, so you're actually using software rendering for the framebuffer effects. Try setting the options above to 2-2 or 2-3 so that you're restricted to the GFX Card Buffer (hardware only) and see the results.

[]s Badaro

chp · March 6th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Badaro

Look at these options:

- Framebuffer texture: 3
- Framebuffer access: 4

You have Full VRAM Primitives on, so you're actually using software rendering for the framebuffer effects. Try setting the options above to 2-2 or 2-3 so that you're restricted to the GFX Card Buffer (hardware only) and see the results.

[]s Badaro

Ok, I set that options and yes I have slowdowns... 53 to 59.9 Fps

But Why the hell do you want to set that options?
1) that cases was already discused in many threads....
2) I have better perfs with my settings.....
3) Image quality is worse with your settings....
4) I always saw better perfs when running @ 960*720 than 640*480 or 800*600....

Don't forget that ATI and GeForces have different features, and Pete's optimized his plugin for NVidia.
I'm really surprised by your 'bad' perfs. Have tried to disable all anisos and FSAA in ATI CP?

Badaro · March 6th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by chp
Ok, I set that options and yes I have slowdowns... 53 to 59.9 Fps

Just checking, are you using:

- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Framebuffer access: 2

Is this correct?

Quote:

Originally posted by chp
Don't forget that ATI and GeForces have different features, and Pete's optimized his plugin for NVidia.

It's not that I want to use those settings, it's that I want to know why my card in particular is performing so bad in this situation. I always assumed that by issues here were due it being a Radeon, but Pete's tests said otherwise. So, I want to compare my results with others and try to figure out what's wrong.

Also, since I don't have much CPU power here, leaving FVP on is a bad choice.

Quote:

I'm really surprised by your 'bad' perfs. Have tried to disable all anisos and FSAA in ATI CP?

Those settings are for no Aniso and no FSAA on.

[]s Badaro

Phoenix Flame · March 6th, 2003

Is this only happening in Xenogears or is it with ALL framebuffer effects in all PSX games? Bear in mind that Xenogears was during the earlier days of the PSX, and the coders just may have really horribly implemented the FB code in the game.

Try something like Chrono Cross on a New Game+ (which will show the extra FB effects during battle) and see what the deal is. I also suggest you see how well the card performs when on the Zelgadiss (with the FB sea as a background) and when during the Masamune/Burning house scenes.

Badaro · March 6th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix Flame
Is this only happening in Xenogears or is it with ALL framebuffer effects in all PSX games? Bear in mind that Xenogears was during the earlier days of the PSX, and the coders just may have really horribly implemented the FB code in the game.

That's why I'm asking people to post their scores. If someone with a GF3 also has trouble with that scene then it's a game issue, not a Radeon one.

But, if chp's scores are correct, there's definetely something wrong with my machine, since my card is supposed to be faster then his (275Mhz vs 230MHz).

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix Flame
Try something like Chrono Cross on a New Game+ (which will show the extra FB effects during battle) and see what the deal is. I also suggest you see how well the card performs when on the Zelgadiss (with the FB sea as a background) and when during the Masamune/Burning house scenes.

I don't have CC here, but a friend of mine has. Do you have a memcard I can use?

Edit: Nevermind, just got CC from him and found a memcard on Gamefaqs.com. I tried going into the SS Invincible with the FB sea as you suggested, and results are just as bad as the Xenogears opening scene.

Edit 2: Just noticed that for some reason I no longer have any problems starting Pete's OpenGL in fullscreen mode. At least some good news.

[]s Badaro

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cooliscool Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hyda IV Posts: 6,057	Pete's texture/framebuffer speed test Mail: BlackDove@addcom.de Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/ Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Version: 1.3.0 Renderer: GeForce2 MX/PCI/3DNOW! --------------------------------- OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_weighting GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_evaluators GL_NV_fence GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_texgen_emboss GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control --------------------------------- Texture uploading speed --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.4353 Mtex/s 49.741 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.645 Mtex/s 50.58 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 6.28936 Mtex/s 25.1574 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.6703 Mtex/s 50.6812 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.6266 Mtex/s 50.5064 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 6.33377 Mtex/s 25.3351 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.2288 Mtex/s 48.9152 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.5049 Mtex/s 50.0195 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 5.95782 Mtex/s 23.8313 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 11.6397 Mtex/s 46.5587 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 12.9238 Mtex/s 25.8476 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.3863 Mtex/s 49.5452 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 12.7013 Mtex/s 25.4026 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 11.2503 Mtex/s 33.751 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (back) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.00068 Mtex/s 28.0027 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.45867 Mtex/s 29.8347 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 75.2213 Mtex/s 300.885 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.4031 Mtex/s 29.6124 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.74477 Mtex/s 30.9791 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 135.043 Mtex/s 540.17 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.69857 Mtex/s 30.7943 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.63061 Mtex/s 30.5224 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 74.9161 Mtex/s 299.664 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 7.6575 Mtex/s 30.63 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 7.46861 Mtex/s 14.9372 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.31819 Mtex/s 29.2727 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.51479 Mtex/s 15.0296 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 147.325 Mtex/s 441.975 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (front) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.59205 Mtex/s 30.3682 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.32051 Mtex/s 29.282 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 74.5175 Mtex/s 298.07 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.69089 Mtex/s 30.7636 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.73325 Mtex/s 30.933 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 74.3423 Mtex/s 297.369 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.66516 Mtex/s 30.6606 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.67676 Mtex/s 30.7071 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 134.981 Mtex/s 539.924 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 7.76658 Mtex/s 31.0663 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 7.77176 Mtex/s 15.5435 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.67166 Mtex/s 30.6866 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 7.73325 Mtex/s 15.4665 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 146.905 Mtex/s 440.714 MB/s __________________ Fayt: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz @ 3.0GHz [Allendale] (1333MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel kit @ 800MHz 4-3-3-10, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC (650/1600), Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi nVidia 650i mobo, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 GG Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Watter Wetter), T.I.M - 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Badaro Rosen Ritter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,394	Cooliscool, From what I read of the test description, that behavior is expected. And what I really want to know is the actual speed of framebuffer effects in the game. If you have Xenogears can you see how fast the opening scene performs with the settings I posted? []s Badaro __________________ My old signature became obsolete and I lack imagination to make a new one.

March 5th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
chp Bip...Bip... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: on Earth Posts: 966	Here are my results when usin my AIW8500DV @ 1024768 in 32bits OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_multitexture GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_S3_s3tc GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_blend GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_element_array GL_ATI_envmap_bumpmap GL_ATI_fragment_shader GL_ATI_map_object_buffer GL_ATI_pn_triangles GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_ATI_vertex_array_object GL_ATI_vertex_attrib_array_object GL_ATI_vertex_streams GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3 GL_ATIX_texture_env_route GL_ATIX_vertex_shader_output_point_size GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texgen_reflection GL_EXT_texture3D GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_texture_rectangle GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_EXT_vertex_shader GL_HP_occlusion_test GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_occlusion_query GL_SGI_color_matrix GL_SGI_texture_edge_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_extensions_string WGL_EXT_swap_control --------------------------------- Texture uploading speed --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 94.918 Mtex/s 379.672 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 96.9237 Mtex/s 387.695 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 68.1435 Mtex/s 272.574 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 97.168 Mtex/s 388.672 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 96.8622 Mtex/s 387.449 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 61.0148 Mtex/s 244.059 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 93.6073 Mtex/s 374.429 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 93.4325 Mtex/s 373.73 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 60.7956 Mtex/s 243.182 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 93.6291 Mtex/s 374.516 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 222.058 Mtex/s 444.116 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 96.9496 Mtex/s 387.798 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 9.28427 Mtex/s 18.5685 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 121.941 Mtex/s 365.822 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (back) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.672 Mtex/s 910.688 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.803 Mtex/s 911.213 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 158.422 Mtex/s 633.689 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.082 Mtex/s 908.329 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.825 Mtex/s 911.3 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 158.532 Mtex/s 634.126 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.475 Mtex/s 909.902 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.768 Mtex/s 911.072 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 158.575 Mtex/s 634.301 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 227.454 Mtex/s 909.814 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 227.847 Mtex/s 455.694 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.65 Mtex/s 910.601 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 227.191 Mtex/s 454.383 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 227.41 Mtex/s 682.23 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (front) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.405 Mtex/s 869.619 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.754 Mtex/s 871.017 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 153.66 Mtex/s 614.64 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.317 Mtex/s 869.27 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.536 Mtex/s 870.143 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 153.551 Mtex/s 614.203 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.383 Mtex/s 869.532 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.885 Mtex/s 871.541 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 153.595 Mtex/s 614.378 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 217.033 Mtex/s 868.134 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 217.951 Mtex/s 435.902 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.667 Mtex/s 870.668 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 217.296 Mtex/s 434.591 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 217.427 Mtex/s 652.28 MB/s __________________ If god doesn't exist in our world, then...I will create god with my own hands!*

March 5th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Zeke_D 100% emulated freak Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ari-fu ckin-zona Posts: 1,026	a) PNY GeForce 2 MX400 64MB SDRAM default clock/core b) Windows XP Home SP1 c) 4300 dets : 6.14.01.4300 d) 16-bit @ 1024768 e) other test matches "good_rs_blending --------------------------------- Pete's texture/framebuffer speed test Mail: BlackDove@addcom.de Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/ Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Version: 1.4.0 Renderer: GeForce2 MX/AGP/3DNOW! --------------------------------- OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_fence GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NVX_ycrcb GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control --------------------------------- Texture uploading speed --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 22.2744 Mtex/s 89.0975 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 26.3977 Mtex/s 105.591 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 20.7909 Mtex/s 83.1635 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.7442 Mtex/s 114.977 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.6011 Mtex/s 114.404 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 83.2508 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.7224 Mtex/s 114.89 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 23.9761 Mtex/s 95.9042 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 16.1222 Mtex/s 64.4888 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 24.2815 Mtex/s 97.1259 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 30.7507 Mtex/s 61.5013 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 25.1105 Mtex/s 100.442 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 34.1861 Mtex/s 68.3721 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 28.5575 Mtex/s 85.6724 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (back) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.5793 Mtex/s 114.317 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.5916 Mtex/s 114.366 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 246.414 Mtex/s 985.658 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.6447 Mtex/s 114.579 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.4607 Mtex/s 113.843 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 245.956 Mtex/s 983.825 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.5356 Mtex/s 114.143 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.5043 Mtex/s 114.017 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 246.305 Mtex/s 985.222 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 28.3517 Mtex/s 113.407 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 25.3505 Mtex/s 50.701 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 23.3652 Mtex/s 93.4608 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 24.6005 Mtex/s 49.2011 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 259.897 Mtex/s 779.691 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (front) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 27.7284 Mtex/s 110.914 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 26.5067 Mtex/s 106.027 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 244.058 Mtex/s 976.233 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 26.8776 Mtex/s 107.51 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 26.716 Mtex/s 106.864 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 243.535 Mtex/s 974.139 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.0775 Mtex/s 112.31 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 27.4357 Mtex/s 109.743 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 245.804 Mtex/s 983.215 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 28.3953 Mtex/s 113.581 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 29.1029 Mtex/s 58.2057 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.4484 Mtex/s 113.794 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.4389 Mtex/s 56.8778 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=5 G=6 B=5 A=0 Speed: 262.144 Mtex/s 786.432 MB/s __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ \| 2.0GB PC3200 \| Maxtor 120GB sATA\| GeForce 6800 GS 256MB* Insignia IS-CM100751 19" \| XP Pro SP2 \| LG 16x Lightscribe DVD+/-RW \| Realtek Audio

March 5th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Zeke_D 100% emulated freak Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Ari-fu ckin-zona Posts: 1,026	a) PNY GeForce 2 MX400 64MB SDRAM default clock/core b) Windows XP Home SP1 c) 4300 dets : 6.14.01.4300 d) 32-bit @ 1024768 e) other test matches "good_rs_blending --------------------------------- Pete's texture/framebuffer speed test Mail: BlackDove@addcom.de Homepage: http://home.t-online.de/home/PeteBernert/ Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Version: 1.4.0 Renderer: GeForce2 MX/AGP/3DNOW! --------------------------------- OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_program GL_ARB_window_pos GL_S3_s3tc GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color GL_EXT_blend_minmax GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coord GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays GL_EXT_packed_pixels GL_EXT_paletted_texture GL_EXT_point_parameters GL_EXT_rescale_normal GL_EXT_secondary_color GL_EXT_separate_specular_color GL_EXT_shared_texture_palette GL_EXT_stencil_wrap GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc GL_EXT_texture_cube_map GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_texture_env_combine GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3 GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic GL_EXT_texture_lod GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias GL_EXT_texture_object GL_EXT_vertex_array GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat GL_KTX_buffer_region GL_NV_blend_square GL_NV_fence GL_NV_fog_distance GL_NV_light_max_exponent GL_NV_packed_depth_stencil GL_NV_pixel_data_range GL_NV_point_sprite GL_NV_register_combiners GL_NV_texgen_reflection GL_NV_texture_env_combine4 GL_NV_texture_rectangle GL_NV_vertex_array_range GL_NV_vertex_array_range2 GL_NV_vertex_program GL_NV_vertex_program1_1 GL_NVX_ycrcb GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap GL_SGIS_multitexture GL_SGIS_texture_lod GL_WIN_swap_hint WGL_EXT_swap_control --------------------------------- Texture uploading speed --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 17.6712 Mtex/s 70.6846 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 19.7807 Mtex/s 79.123 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 20.0055 Mtex/s 80.022 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 20.1582 Mtex/s 80.6328 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 20.2169 Mtex/s 80.8677 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 20.2018 Mtex/s 80.8074 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 21.1399 Mtex/s 84.5598 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 15.8333 Mtex/s 63.3333 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 21.729 Mtex/s 86.9159 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 28.732 Mtex/s 114.928 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 34.1529 Mtex/s 68.3057 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 28.5356 Mtex/s 114.143 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 33.0298 Mtex/s 66.0596 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=0 Speed: 18.9302 Mtex/s 56.7906 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (back) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.382 Mtex/s 825.527 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.862 Mtex/s 827.447 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 196.935 Mtex/s 787.741 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 200.971 Mtex/s 803.885 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 203.151 Mtex/s 812.603 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 199.706 Mtex/s 798.824 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.291 Mtex/s 825.165 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 205.986 Mtex/s 823.943 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.142 Mtex/s 824.567 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 83.2508 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 20.8781 Mtex/s 41.7563 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 20.8494 Mtex/s 83.3976 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 41.6254 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=0 Speed: 206.818 Mtex/s 620.454 MB/s Framebuffer texture speed (front) --------------------------------- Format: 01 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.771 Mtex/s 827.084 MB/s Format: 02 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.662 Mtex/s 826.648 MB/s Format: 03 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.444 Mtex/s 825.775 MB/s Format: 04 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.316 Mtex/s 825.265 MB/s Format: 05 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.753 Mtex/s 827.01 MB/s Format: 06 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.229 Mtex/s 824.916 MB/s Format: 07 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.709 Mtex/s 826.836 MB/s Format: 08 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.578 Mtex/s 826.312 MB/s Format: 09 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=8 Speed: 206.597 Mtex/s 826.386 MB/s Format: 10 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 20.7403 Mtex/s 82.9614 MB/s Format: 11 - Size: R=5 G=5 B=5 A=1 Speed: 20.7036 Mtex/s 41.4072 MB/s Format: 12 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 20.8127 Mtex/s 83.2508 MB/s Format: 13 - Size: R=4 G=4 B=4 A=4 Speed: 20.7403 Mtex/s 41.4807 MB/s Format: 14 - Size: R=8 G=8 B=8 A=0 Speed: 206.556 Mtex/s 619.669 MB/s __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ \| 2.0GB PC3200 \| Maxtor 120GB sATA\| GeForce 6800 GS 256MB* Insignia IS-CM100751 19" \| XP Pro SP2 \| LG 16x Lightscribe DVD+/-RW \| Realtek Audio

March 6th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Badaro Rosen Ritter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,394	Guys, thanks for you help, but I think I need to make myself clear. What I want is not the results for Pete's bench application. I want to know the actual FPS you get on ePSXe in situations where you need Framebuffer Access, such as the opening scene in Xenogears or the battle transitions in FF9. []s Badaro __________________ My old signature became obsolete and I lack imagination to make a new one.

March 6th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,897	Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Version: 1.4.0 GeForce4 MX 420/PCI/SSE 64MB Xenogears Opening Scene Benchmark *** Benchmarks - Pete's D3D * Color Resolution Texture FPS 16 Bit 1024x768 8888 13-17 32 Bit 1024x768 8888 11-15 16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 13-17 32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 11-15 16 Bit 640x480 8888 13-18 32 Bit 640x480 8888 12-16 16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 13-18 32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 12-16 Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 15-20 FPS * Benchmarks - OpenGL *** Color Resolution Texture FPS 16 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28 32 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28 16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28 32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28 16 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39 32 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39 16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39 32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39 Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 38-51 FPS __________________

March 6th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,897	Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Version: 1.4.0 GeForce4 MX 420/PCI/SSE 64MB Xenogears Opening Scene Benchmark *** Benchmarks - Pete's D3D * Color Resolution Texture FPS 16 Bit 1024x768 8888 13-17 32 Bit 1024x768 8888 11-15 16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 13-17 32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 11-15 16 Bit 640x480 8888 13-18 32 Bit 640x480 8888 12-16 16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 13-18 32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 12-16 Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 15-20 FPS * Benchmarks - OpenGL *** Color Resolution Texture FPS 16 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28 32 Bit 1024x768 8888 20-28 16 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28 32 Bit 1024x768 Don't Care 20-28 16 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39 32 Bit 640x480 8888 31-39 16 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39 32 Bit 640x480 Don't Care 31-39 Comparison: 32 Bit, 1024x768, 8888, FVP: 38-51 FPS __________________

March 6th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Phoenix Flame Flood Yourself Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,338	Is this only happening in Xenogears or is it with ALL framebuffer effects in all PSX games? Bear in mind that Xenogears was during the earlier days of the PSX, and the coders just may have really horribly implemented the FB code in the game. Try something like Chrono Cross on a New Game+ (which will show the extra FB effects during battle) and see what the deal is. I also suggest you see how well the card performs when on the Zelgadiss (with the FB sea as a background) and when during the Masamune/Burning house scenes.