Experimental Flipping Request

**Lewpy** · August 18th, 2002

Request to my plugin users

I am after a quick list of games that have problems if "Experimental Flipping" is enabled in my plugin. If you could post any games you know of that don't work with Experimental Flipping, that would be very handy.
I want to reverse my investigations: find those games that don't work with Experimental Flipping, and see if I can get them to work with it; rather than try to get those that currently require it, to work without it.

Note: in the next version of my plugin, I will more than likely rename the Experimental Flipping option to something that more closely describes what it actually does!

**Pete Bernert** · August 18th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewpy
Note: in the next version of my plugin, I will more than likely rename the Experimental Flipping option to something that more closely describes what it actually does!

like... Random Flipping???

**Lewpy** · August 18th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Pete Bernert
Random Flipping???

Oh stop, you're killing me

psicomaniaco · August 19th, 2002

Actually, I just use "Experimental Flipping" for FF7 and FF8. I always disable that for any other game. But I will try testing some games with that on, and report to you.

psicomaniaco · August 19th, 2002

Thats weird... I tested 32 games with Experimental Flipping on, but found no problems. I'm sorry if I couldn't be of any help.

**Lewpy** · August 19th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by psicomaniaco
Thats weird... I tested 32 games with Experimental Flipping on, but found no problems. I'm sorry if I couldn't be of any help.

No, that is helpful

Thanks.

**Shadow Lady** · September 23rd, 2002

many answers

psicomaniaco · October 7th, 2002

Maybe it was 'cause no one found any problem. I never had any.

Goku7 · October 15th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewpy
Request to my plugin users

Note: in the next version of my plugin, I will more than likely rename the Experimental Flipping option to something that more closely describes what it actually does!

How about something like "Buffer Flipping Detection"?

Straight and to the point, eh?

**cooliscool** · October 15th, 2002

O.T. - psicomaniaco, you might want to tone down the sexuality of your avatar/sig. there are people here who get offended by that.

**Lewpy** · October 15th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Goku7
How about something like "Buffer Flipping Detection"?
Straight and to the point, eh?

Close to what I have at the moment, which is "Buffer Drawing Detection"

Goku7 · October 15th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Lewpy

Close to what I have at the moment, which is "Buffer Drawing Detection"

I guess great minds think alike, then.

Cyberman · October 21st, 2002

Wow this thread still alive?
Well so far Lewpy your plugin is working.. I think what might have been the problem for the plugin was registry settings.. only thing I can think of. <heh eons ago it wasn't doing anything save having mysterious crashes>
Anyhow I must have done something to clear up the registry information acidentally and it works (sigh). Not helpful to prevent it from happening I guess

As for your buffer draw detection seems to work fine on all games..

Cyb

Jurakan · June 30th, 2003

I do experience some flickering menus on FFT and CC with 'Experimental Flipping' on, but only when 'Pure Software' is disabled. With this option enabled the flickering is gone. Otherwise, both games run fine. Hope this is helpful somehow.

August 18th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Lewpy Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Southern England Posts: 519	Experimental Flipping Request Request to my plugin users I am after a quick list of games that have problems if "Experimental Flipping" is enabled in my plugin. If you could post any games you know of that don't work with Experimental Flipping, that would be very handy. I want to reverse my investigations: find those games that don't work with Experimental Flipping, and see if I can get them to work with it; rather than try to get those that currently require it, to work without it. Note: in the next version of my plugin, I will more than likely rename the Experimental Flipping option to something that more closely describes what it actually does!

August 19th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I'm ashamed to say... Posts: 1,645	Actually, I just use "Experimental Flipping" for FF7 and FF8. I always disable that for any other game. But I will try testing some games with that on, and report to you. __________________ Goals: -Buy a new video Card; Buy F.E.A.R; Beat NOLF 1 and 2; Buy cat food.

August 19th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I'm ashamed to say... Posts: 1,645	Thats weird... I tested 32 games with Experimental Flipping on, but found no problems. I'm sorry if I couldn't be of any help. __________________ Goals: -Buy a new video Card; Buy F.E.A.R; Beat NOLF 1 and 2; Buy cat food.

September 23rd, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 5,004	many answers __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

October 7th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
psicomaniaco Eh?? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: I'm ashamed to say... Posts: 1,645	Maybe it was 'cause no one found any problem. I never had any. __________________ Goals: -Buy a new video Card; Buy F.E.A.R; Beat NOLF 1 and 2; Buy cat food.

October 15th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,179	O.T. - psicomaniaco, you might want to tone down the sexuality of your avatar/sig. there are people here who get offended by that. __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

October 21st, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Cyberman I code therefore I am. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: I live therefore it's enough. Posts: 412	Wow this thread still alive? Well so far Lewpy your plugin is working.. I think what might have been the problem for the plugin was registry settings.. only thing I can think of. <heh eons ago it wasn't doing anything save having mysterious crashes> Anyhow I must have done something to clear up the registry information acidentally and it works (sigh). Not helpful to prevent it from happening I guess As for your buffer draw detection seems to work fine on all games.. Cyb __________________ Think GEEK! Cyb's page of FF7 and more viewing

June 30th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Jurakan Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 16	I do experience some flickering menus on FFT and CC with 'Experimental Flipping' on, but only when 'Pure Software' is disabled. With this option enabled the flickering is gone. Otherwise, both games run fine. Hope this is helpful somehow. __________________ "I say, when life gives you a lemon, wing it right back and add some lemons of your own!" Calvin Core System Specs: AMD Athlon 850 MHz Voodoo 3, 3000 16 MB Sound Blaster 16 PCI 256 MB SDRAM HP cd16ri CD-RW & CloneCD Windows 98 SE Not much, but gets the job done (and kicks ass)

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