Kazzuya soft plugin 1.7 and E}I{'s Soft Driver 0.97x with ChronoCross

spajdr · April 22nd, 2002

Just small report :-)
Kazzuya soft plugin 1.7,hangs at equip menu (ChronoCross) both in ePSXe and AdriPSX.
E}I{'s Soft Driver 0.97x - black screen after you exit ingame menu (ChronoCross)
E}I{'s Soft Driver 0.97x - crashes AdriPSX ILE when you try to run it in window mode

**E}I{** · April 22nd, 2002

Well, I think I'll have to buy this game after all

Hope Kazziya can easily add status MSB flipping code to his plugin.

**Shadow Lady** · April 22nd, 2002

or maybe u to correct the black screen and crashes ;P<span style="height: 11; Filter: Glow(Color=black)>

**kazzuya** · April 24th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by E}I{
Well, I think I'll have to buy this game after all
Hope Kazziya can easily add status MSB flipping code to his plugin.

Thanks for the hint. I actually looked into that status code and it seems like I'm doing other strange things..

ummmmm
old old code

Cyberman · April 24th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by kazzuya

Thanks for the hint. I actually looked into that status code and it seems like I'm doing other strange things..

ummmmm
old old code

Wow You're still alive!

Well at least it doesn't hang in combat anymore!

I never had that bug happen to me in chrono cross though with your plugin strange..

Glad }E{ started where I left off with an MMX plugin, I just got swamped RL to do it. I hate having to work

Cyb

**E}I{** · April 24th, 2002

Well, Kaz, all i know that on real PSX high bit must change AFTER UpdateLace(), not by it. Games are tracking 0to 1(or 1to0 ?) change to determine when full frame was drawn in interlace mode, and they can move to next. They are reading status in their vsync handler(just after UpdateLace() ) and then wait till it changed. I tried to update status after first status read and it stopped hangups in one interlace mode game, but not in CC. So i added flipping after each read, but decided to make it optional.
BTW I going to write sound plugin, but docs I found are not very cool, and as long as i know, there is no working source code released. Can you help me with my problem? I going to do most of the thing in asm, like always, and i need more info about SPU from any source.

spajdr · April 25th, 2002

E}I{ : Thats great news,that you will make SPU plugin also,i hope it will be good as your GPU plugin is :-)

**kazzuya** · April 25th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by E}I{
Well, Kaz, all i know that on real PSX high bit must change AFTER UpdateLace(), not by it. Games are tracking 0to 1(or 1to0 ?) change to determine when full frame was drawn in interlace mode, and they can move to next. They are reading

Hi Yojjj !!
After the updatelace() ? But when exactly ? 8)
I noticed some problems with vsync with epsxe in some games (Ridge Racer Revolution for example).
I make sure that every updatelace() happens every 1/60 of a second, but somehow the updatelace() is sometimes called 3 (20fps) times instead of 2 times (30 fps).
I wonder if it's the same problem..

Regarding the SPU stuff.. I forgot anything I've ever known (which was little anyway).
I can share my old SPU code with you if you want, and if I still have it.
Keep in mind that that plugin was at a very primitive stage, no sound envelope support..

baubau

**kazzuya** · April 25th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Cyberman

Wow You're still alive!

Well at least it doesn't hang in combat anymore!

I never had that bug happen to me in chrono cross though with your plugin strange..

Glad }E{ started where I left off with an MMX plugin, I just got swamped RL to do it. I hate having to work

Cyb

I'm still alive, and very much busy (but mostly lazy 8). I don't blame you for dropping your plugin development. It does quite a bit of time to get one going.
Luckly I'm past that stage, infact I'm in the stage in which I just don't want to put my hands into it anymore and every little change takes a big effort.. arghhhhhh

bauuuuuuuuuuu

**lu_zero** · April 25th, 2002

in bero pages you should find the spuwave plugin made by him and then updated a bit by LDChen, maybe you can take a look.

**E}I{** · April 25th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by spajdr
E}I{ : Thats great news,that you will make SPU plugin also,i hope it will be good as your GPU plugin is :-)

All plugins i tried are either good but slow, either fast, but outdated and have horrible sound quality. Gonna do something really fast and more or less compatible. Optimizing sound code will yield more speed than optimizing gfx code which was slow because of memory bandwidth problem. Also I wander why no one did MOD(or XM or IT) logging in his SPU plugin.

Kazziya, i'll gladly receive all you got. I'll only read them myself to get some info about SPU. I do not care what it can really do, i've programmed envelopes on my AWE32 some time ago so it will not be the problem.

BTW, Kaz, how do you know how my nickname is pronounced?

**kazzuya** · April 27th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by E}I{

Kazziya, i'll gladly receive all you got. I'll only read them myself to get some info about SPU. I do not care what it can really do, i've programmed envelopes on my AWE32 some time ago so it will not be the problem.

cool, i'll email you i guess..

Quote:

BTW, Kaz, how do you know how my nickname is pronounced?

eheheh.. I got my Russian-speaking informers !

baubau

**NickK** · April 28th, 2002

Does someone have docs on VAG decoding? That's my biggest problem at the moment. And I've already tried linear resampling, but that doesn't seem to work too well.

**E}I{** · April 28th, 2002

I only have seen decoding sources, it seems no one had put info to docs. Format looks like ADPCM with selectable range and simple smoothing filter...
Linear resampling sucks (i tried it too), it can cut some higher frequencies from sound.

April 22nd, 2002	#1 (permalink)
spajdr Harmonixer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 784	Kazzuya soft plugin 1.7 and E}I{'s Soft Driver 0.97x with ChronoCross Just small report :-) Kazzuya soft plugin 1.7,hangs at equip menu (ChronoCross) both in ePSXe and AdriPSX. E}I{'s Soft Driver 0.97x - black screen after you exit ingame menu (ChronoCross) E}I{'s Soft Driver 0.97x - crashes AdriPSX ILE when you try to run it in window mode __________________ Asus P5Q Pro + E8400 @ 4 Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 RAM A-DATA 1066Mhz EE Gigabyte Radeon 4850 750/2200 \| PSU : Enermax PRO82+ 425W 2 x 250 GB Samsung Spinpoint \| LCD: 22" Lenovo L220X

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spajdr Harmonixer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 784	E}I{ : Thats great news,that you will make SPU plugin also,i hope it will be good as your GPU plugin is :-) __________________ Asus P5Q Pro + E8400 @ 4 Ghz \| 4GB DDR2 RAM A-DATA 1066Mhz EE Gigabyte Radeon 4850 750/2200 \| PSU : Enermax PRO82+ 425W 2 x 250 GB Samsung Spinpoint \| LCD: 22" Lenovo L220X

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lu_zero Moderator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Earth,Europe,Italy,Turin Posts: 292	in bero pages you should find the spuwave plugin made by him and then updated a bit by LDChen, maybe you can take a look. __________________ lu_zero FPSE Former Team Member P.E.Op.S member GPSE Project starter

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April 22nd, 2002	#2 (permalink)
E}I{ Emu author Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 361	Well, I think I'll have to buy this game after all Hope Kazziya can easily add status MSB flipping code to his plugin.

April 24th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
E}I{ Emu author Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 361	Well, Kaz, all i know that on real PSX high bit must change AFTER UpdateLace(), not by it. Games are tracking 0to 1(or 1to0 ?) change to determine when full frame was drawn in interlace mode, and they can move to next. They are reading status in their vsync handler(just after UpdateLace() ) and then wait till it changed. I tried to update status after first status read and it stopped hangups in one interlace mode game, but not in CC. So i added flipping after each read, but decided to make it optional. BTW I going to write sound plugin, but docs I found are not very cool, and as long as i know, there is no working source code released. Can you help me with my problem? I going to do most of the thing in asm, like always, and i need more info about SPU from any source.

April 28th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
NickK Emu author Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,756	Does someone have docs on VAG decoding? That's my biggest problem at the moment. And I've already tried linear resampling, but that doesn't seem to work too well.

April 28th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
E}I{ Emu author Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 361	I only have seen decoding sources, it seems no one had put info to docs. Format looks like ADPCM with selectable range and simple smoothing filter... Linear resampling sucks (i tried it too), it can cut some higher frequencies from sound.