d3d problems

lich · March 24th, 2002

help!
all the games i've played with epsxe and pete's d3d (ff7,L of legaia,suikoden) does not have the right graphics that's why i use peops....my computer is old so i want the graphics card to be of use....what do i need to do? example ff7 does not show the battle menu only black.
i changed everything that can be changed. still d same...d3d and d3d dx6

specs
pII-450 mhz
192 mb
6gbs
Sis video card (uses d3d not opengl) 8mb

Neojag · March 24th, 2002

change the offscreen drawing settings, that should make the FF7 menus appear. enable the FF7 game fix btw

SkyeHack · March 24th, 2002

post your plugin settings?

lich · March 25th, 2002

the graphics improved massively but it is so slow and the swirl effect is missing, also in some scenes there are still some garbages.

Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.59
Author: Pete Bernert
GFX card: SiS 620

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - [16 Bit]

Textures:
- R4G4B4A4
- Filtering: 0
- Garbage collection: on
- VRam size: 0 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limit: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Alpha multipass: off
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: none

Misc:
- Scanlines: off [0]
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: off
- Full vram: off
- Game fixes: on [00000001]

**Kane** · March 25th, 2002

You have.... how can I put this... a not vey good 3d Graphics card.
Things I can suggest:
1) Use the D3D 6 Plugin
2) Turn Filtering to 6
3) Turn on Alpha Multipass, Mask bit, and Advanced Blending.
4) Change Framebuffer to 0 and turn on vRam Primatives.
5) Enable dithering.

SkyeHack · March 25th, 2002

I agree with Lord Kane. Change your grapchics card. But maybe those settings will work.

lich · March 26th, 2002

t.y guys,
status check
1. still no battle swirls
2. soooooooooo slow
3. graphic garbages still left uncollected
4. better graphics

so what should i do, stick with peops or there's something else left to twitch?

**Kane** · March 26th, 2002

Stick with PEOPs. I'm afraid your graphics card simply isn't any good at 3D accelleration.
Edit: Whoops, freudian slip just then. Didn't mean to say Craphics.

March 26th, 2002

I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree with Kain. I hate telling someone they can't do something but this is gonna be a case where hardware acceleration really is not an option for you

lich · March 27th, 2002

well, thanks anyweyz guys.....
guess i'm stuck with a crappy 3d card and a blurry chocobo

SkyeHack · March 27th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Lord Kane
Edit: Whoops, freudian slip just then. Didn't mean to say Craphics.

whats freudian slip?

**Kane** · March 27th, 2002

Freudian slip is saying something you subconciously meant. Basicaly I said it's a Crap-ics card by accident without realising it, but on a sub-concious level, I was thinking that, so typed it.

**Dark Watcher** · March 27th, 2002

Try This... No battle transition swirls...but if ya seen one swirl ya seen them all.... This should get you good graphics and decent speed..

Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.59
Author: Pete Bernert
GFX card: SiS 620

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - [16 Bit]

Textures:
- R5G5B5A1
- Filtering: 6
- Garbage collection: on <---does help in some games, but can be turned off for a slight boost
- VRam size: 0 MBytes <--- Put the exact amount of VRAM the card has...only Nvidia cards are capable of autodetect

Framerate:
- FPS limit: on
- Frame skipping: off <---turn on for a little speed..but may not be needed
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 1
- Alpha multipass: off
- Mask bit: off
- Advanced blending: none

Misc:
- Scanlines: off [0]
- Unfiltered FB: on <--speeds up movies
- Dithering: on
- Screen smoothing: off
- Full vram: off
- Game fixes: on [00000001]

**Shadow Lady** · March 28th, 2002

is acceleration right whit my TNT2 m64 32mb?

**Dark Watcher** · March 28th, 2002

Shadow Lady? What do you mean?
We had a TNT2 M64 PCI....we used D3D a lot more then OpenGL....in some games such as Final Fanatsy 8 and Jade Cocoon...you will see the speed differences...

Syed Fawad · March 28th, 2002

SiS 620 is a very very poor card. BTW I think it is on-board.

lich · March 29th, 2002

on-board?
what is onboard?

thx dark watcher, i tried it, but still it's slower than peops.

btw, is pine riva the same as tnt2 riva? cause i'm changing my gfx card

**Kane** · March 29th, 2002

On board means the card is actualy integrated into the mobo, rather than being a seperate card.

March 30th, 2002

Not all onboard cards are terribly horrible. The Nforce chipset has a Geforce 2 MX 400 built into it

**Kane** · March 31st, 2002

An on-board card will be worse than the seperate equivalent. Benchmarks were done with the nForce chipset.
Even with the thoeretical AGP8x, the onboard card was about 1/2 ~2/3 the speed of a seperate GeForce MX 400

March 24th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
lich Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 12	d3d problems help! all the games i've played with epsxe and pete's d3d (ff7,L of legaia,suikoden) does not have the right graphics that's why i use peops....my computer is old so i want the graphics card to be of use....what do i need to do? example ff7 does not show the battle menu only black. i changed everything that can be changed. still d same...d3d and d3d dx6 specs pII-450 mhz 192 mb 6gbs Sis video card (uses d3d not opengl) 8mb

March 24th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Neojag :: [ Sauron's Eye ] :: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie... Posts: 3,259	change the offscreen drawing settings, that should make the FF7 menus appear. enable the FF7 game fix btw __________________

March 24th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
SkyeHack Cpl in U.S. Marine Corps Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camp Lejeune, NC Posts: 2,175	post your plugin settings? __________________ Click To View My Blog Alienware Area-51m Saucer Silver 16.1" UltraXGA 1600x1200 LCD Display * Pentium 4 HT 3.4GHz 800MHz FSB w/ 512KB Cache ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 Module 128MB DDR * 1GB DDR PC-3200 @ 400MHz * Hitachi 60GB 7200 RPM ATA100 8MB Cache 4x2x8x DVD+/-RW / 16x10x24x CD-RW Combo * Windows XP Home Edition SP2

March 25th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	You have.... how can I put this... a not vey good 3d Graphics card. Things I can suggest: 1) Use the D3D 6 Plugin 2) Turn Filtering to 6 3) Turn on Alpha Multipass, Mask bit, and Advanced Blending. 4) Change Framebuffer to 0 and turn on vRam Primatives. 5) Enable dithering. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

March 25th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
SkyeHack Cpl in U.S. Marine Corps Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Camp Lejeune, NC Posts: 2,175	I agree with Lord Kane. Change your grapchics card. But maybe those settings will work. __________________ Click To View My Blog Alienware Area-51m Saucer Silver 16.1" UltraXGA 1600x1200 LCD Display * Pentium 4 HT 3.4GHz 800MHz FSB w/ 512KB Cache ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9700 Module 128MB DDR * 1GB DDR PC-3200 @ 400MHz * Hitachi 60GB 7200 RPM ATA100 8MB Cache 4x2x8x DVD+/-RW / 16x10x24x CD-RW Combo * Windows XP Home Edition SP2

March 25th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
lich Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 12	the graphics improved massively but it is so slow and the swirl effect is missing, also in some scenes there are still some garbages. Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.59 Author: Pete Bernert GFX card: SiS 620 Resolution/Color: - 640x480 Fullscreen - [16 Bit] Textures: - R4G4B4A4 - Filtering: 0 - Garbage collection: on - VRam size: 0 MBytes Framerate: - FPS limit: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: Auto Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 2 - Alpha multipass: off - Mask bit: off - Advanced blending: none Misc: - Scanlines: off [0] - Unfiltered FB: off - Dithering: off - Screen smoothing: off - Full vram: off - Game fixes: on [00000001]

March 26th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
lich Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 12	t.y guys, status check 1. still no battle swirls 2. soooooooooo slow 3. graphic garbages still left uncollected 4. better graphics so what should i do, stick with peops or there's something else left to twitch?

March 26th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Stick with PEOPs. I'm afraid your graphics card simply isn't any good at 3D accelleration. Edit: Whoops, freudian slip just then. Didn't mean to say Craphics. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb Last edited by Lord Kane; March 26th, 2002 at 17:20.

March 26th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	I'm afraid I'm gonna have to agree with Kain. I hate telling someone they can't do something but this is gonna be a case where hardware acceleration really is not an option for you

March 27th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
lich Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 12	well, thanks anyweyz guys..... guess i'm stuck with a crappy 3d card and a blurry chocobo

March 27th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Freudian slip is saying something you subconciously meant. Basicaly I said it's a Crap-ics card by accident without realising it, but on a sub-concious level, I was thinking that, so typed it. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

March 27th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,897	Hmm Try This... No battle transition swirls...but if ya seen one swirl ya seen them all.... This should get you good graphics and decent speed.. Plugin: Pete's D3D Driver 1.1.59 Author: Pete Bernert GFX card: SiS 620 Resolution/Color: - 640x480 Fullscreen - [16 Bit] Textures: - R5G5B5A1 - Filtering: 6 - Garbage collection: on <---does help in some games, but can be turned off for a slight boost - VRam size: 0 MBytes <--- Put the exact amount of VRAM the card has...only Nvidia cards are capable of autodetect Framerate: - FPS limit: on - Frame skipping: off <---turn on for a little speed..but may not be needed - FPS limit: Auto Compatibility: - Offscreen drawing: 2 - Framebuffer texture: 1 - Alpha multipass: off - Mask bit: off - Advanced blending: none Misc: - Scanlines: off [0] - Unfiltered FB: on <--speeds up movies - Dithering: on - Screen smoothing: off - Full vram: off - Game fixes: on [00000001] __________________

March 28th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,730	is acceleration right whit my TNT2 m64 32mb? __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.3GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 1GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP2 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

March 28th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Dark Watcher Coffee Demon Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Darkness, Unknown Posts: 2,897	Hmm Shadow Lady? What do you mean? We had a TNT2 M64 PCI....we used D3D a lot more then OpenGL....in some games such as Final Fanatsy 8 and Jade Cocoon...you will see the speed differences... __________________

March 28th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,261	SiS 620 is a very very poor card. BTW I think it is on-board. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

March 29th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
lich Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 12	on-board? what is onboard? thx dark watcher, i tried it, but still it's slower than peops. btw, is pine riva the same as tnt2 riva? cause i'm changing my gfx card

March 29th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	On board means the card is actualy integrated into the mobo, rather than being a seperate card. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

March 30th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Not all onboard cards are terribly horrible. The Nforce chipset has a Geforce 2 MX 400 built into it

March 31st, 2002	#20 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	An on-board card will be worse than the seperate equivalent. Benchmarks were done with the nForce chipset. Even with the thoeretical AGP8x, the onboard card was about 1/2 ~2/3 the speed of a seperate GeForce MX 400 __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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