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Mad · July 27th, 2006

I was hoping you say: geforce fx 5200 support....

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PersianBoy · July 27th, 2006

@zerofrog

most people use geforce fx/radeon 9 series graphic cards. both of these cards only use shaders v2.0.
ZeroGs only supports shaders v3.0. also, I use radeon 9550 and I can't use ZeroGs properly.
some of old geforce ti cards are powerful enough to use shaders. they are old but they are not outdated.
many of them can outperform newer generations if we disable Anisotropic.
would you mind making another version of ZeroGs which support shaders2.0/shaders1.x ?
it will boost speed. you know shaders 2.0/1.x use less cpu power than shaders 3.0.
I don't want to disturb you nor wait your time. I hope you listen to my idea.

thanks
PersianBoy

emwearz · July 28th, 2006

Quote:

most people use geforce fx/radeon 9 series graphic cards. both of these cards only use shaders v2.0.
ZeroGs only supports shaders v3.0.

ZeroGs supports PS 2.0 and above (Im using a Radeon 9600pro which only have PS2.0)

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**bositman** · July 28th, 2006

PersianBoy i believe ZeroFrog was quite clear in his first post here introducing his plugin,here's the quote:

Quote:

ZeroGS does most of its processing on the graphics card, hence the higher requirements because of decryption of GS formats etc. The disadvantage is that it won't work on ps1.4 or below, use gsdx for that and don't ask for ps1.4 support. (gsdx mostly uses the Cpu for its processing, so doesn't need heavy graphics requirements).

So as you can understand the plugin has been coded from the start with high end gfx cards in mind making it very hard to impossible to create a version supporting lower end cards.Its not that the author doesnt want to add support other cards,its that it is not possible to because of the way it handles emulation

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hexpor · July 29th, 2006

good for FFX

Federelli · July 29th, 2006

You should support only PS3.0 cards an drop all the stupid PS2.0 code :P.

I can't believe people think of emulating a PS2 with such bad video cards.

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GDI1942 · July 29th, 2006

Some people can't afford to go high high top end that support PS3.0... I'm sure the designers are aiming for the widest audience to use the PCSX. Now trying to support 1.4, even if it works out nicely, the card would still be to slow to keep up. But I don't agree with dropping 2.0 support

Last edited by GDI1942; July 29th, 2006 at 18:38..

slayer09 · August 1st, 2006

Where can i find pixel shader???
Im finding it hard...

**Nachbrenner** · August 1st, 2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by slayer09

Where can i find pixel shader???
Im finding it hard...

Use DXCapsViewer from page 2

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IGMA950 · August 1st, 2006

hi all, i'm new the emu is good, congratulations! , i have a problem with zerogs plugin
i have a laptop:
1.83ghz dual core
1gb ram
intel gma 950 video with 224ram, ps2.0 shader...

with gsdx9 work fine , but when i start with zerogs the screen put in white and the sound is listened, but the emu crash and pc send me error message in a blue screen,

any idea how to fix this error or my video card is not compatible with the plugin?

help! thanks

sorry for my english!

in the console appears:
Failed to create hardware device, creating software.
*********
GS WARNING: Need at least 2 simultaneous render targets. Disabing depth writing
*********
******
GS WARNING: Need independent write masks! Some Z buffer effects might look bad
*********
******
GS WARNING: Need MRT Post Pixel Shader Blending. Effects will look bad
*********
******
GS ERROR: Device doesn't support alpha blending for 16bit floating point targets.
Quality will reduce.
*********
******
GS ERROR: Device doesn't support G32R32F textures.
Textures will look bad.
*********

Last edited by IGMA950; August 2nd, 2006 at 03:34..

mvntsdc · August 2nd, 2006

zerogrog my uncle give to me 2 graphics Card: a Fx5600 and a Geforce Nx6600! Wich one is better to use your plugin? ( sorry my english, i will study

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ldrancer · August 2nd, 2006

hey.. good plugin. yea really nice. i had tried to play ffx with pcsx2 first time, and i used the default gfx plugin. tried it again today and the beginning is going faster. one thing. im using the zerogs plugin. at the top it says ps 2.0a and ffx looks like its running in ps 2 mode. anyway to get it to go to ps 3. i got support.

Mad · August 3rd, 2006

mvntsdc:Nx6600 is the best card.

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hbinhlove2003 · August 3rd, 2006

I have file BIOS for pcsx2.09 file size 11,8MB
(PS2 Bios 30004R V6 Pal.bin
PS2 Bios 30004R V6 Pal.MEC
PS2 Bios 30004R V6 Pal.NVM
rom1.bin
scph10000.bin
scph10000.NVM
scph39001.bin
scph39001.MEC
scph39001.NVM
SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.BIN
SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.EROM
SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.NVM
SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.ROM1
SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.ROM2)
, but I can play , I configured follow the help file 10 step , when I chossed Run->CD ,
display is ZeroGS, my computer was freeze !!!, please help me, my computer is
Intel Celeron 1,7GHz, RAM 384MB, VAG GeForce MX 400.

**General Plot** · August 3rd, 2006

Heh, looks like you have quite a collection of BIOS files, and while I won't delve into where you got them from, I will remind you that FFX2's status is ingame only, and not playable.

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ulwan25 · August 4th, 2006

no geforce 1,2,3,4,FX for ZeroGS. zerogs is for geforce 6 and ati x1000 and above.

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**zerofrog** · August 4th, 2006

ZeroGS KOSMOS supports any card with pixel shader 2.0. This includes all of GeForce 5000 series, ATI Radeon 9000 series, etc.

So far, there is barely any image quality impact when using these low end cards, although it will be slower.

Mad · August 4th, 2006

Glad to hear that!
But im still saving for a gf 6600GT...

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hbk549 · August 4th, 2006

From where can we download ZeroGs plugin
When i went through forum i was really shocked to see the increase in FPS

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PCsx2 rocks:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

Wortany · August 4th, 2006

hmm, I have a Geforce 6600GT and ZeroGS works fine, a lot slower than GSdx9, but works. Only thing is, I read about that DXCapsViewer on this thread and tried it out. For some reason it shows this:

VertexShaderVersion 1.1
MaxVertexShaderConst 256
PixelShaderVersion 1.4

Now I'm just confused. Or is this program not trustable?

(edit) I think I answered my own question with the information I just showed here.

Last edited by Wortany; August 4th, 2006 at 18:43..

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hbk549 Developer Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 2	Where to download ZeroGS plugin From where can we download ZeroGs plugin When i went through forum i was really shocked to see the increase in FPS :guitar: PCsx2 rocks:guitar: :guitar: :guitar:

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July 27th, 2006	#121 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,300	I was hoping you say: geforce fx 5200 support.... __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

July 27th, 2006	#122 (permalink)
PersianBoy Missile Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Persia Posts: 78	@zerofrog most people use geforce fx/radeon 9 series graphic cards. both of these cards only use shaders v2.0. ZeroGs only supports shaders v3.0. also, I use radeon 9550 and I can't use ZeroGs properly. some of old geforce ti cards are powerful enough to use shaders. they are old but they are not outdated. many of them can outperform newer generations if we disable Anisotropic. would you mind making another version of ZeroGs which support shaders2.0/shaders1.x ? it will boost speed. you know shaders 2.0/1.x use less cpu power than shaders 3.0. I don't want to disturb you nor wait your time. I hope you listen to my idea. thanks PersianBoy

July 29th, 2006	#125 (permalink)
hexpor Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: VietNam Posts: 3	good for FFX

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July 29th, 2006	#127 (permalink)
GDI1942 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 65	Some people can't afford to go high high top end that support PS3.0... I'm sure the designers are aiming for the widest audience to use the PCSX. Now trying to support 1.4, even if it works out nicely, the card would still be to slow to keep up. But I don't agree with dropping 2.0 support Last edited by GDI1942; July 29th, 2006 at 18:38..

August 1st, 2006	#128 (permalink)
slayer09 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: talisay Posts: 5	Where can i find pixel shader??? Im finding it hard...

August 1st, 2006	#130 (permalink)
IGMA950 guagua! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Peru Posts: 1	hi all, i'm new the emu is good, congratulations! , i have a problem with zerogs plugin i have a laptop: 1.83ghz dual core 1gb ram intel gma 950 video with 224ram, ps2.0 shader... with gsdx9 work fine , but when i start with zerogs the screen put in white and the sound is listened, but the emu crash and pc send me error message in a blue screen, any idea how to fix this error or my video card is not compatible with the plugin? help! thanks sorry for my english! in the console appears: Failed to create hardware device, creating software. ******* GS WARNING: Need at least 2 simultaneous render targets. Disabing depth writing ***** ** GS WARNING: Need independent write masks! Some Z buffer effects might look bad ***** ** GS WARNING: Need MRT Post Pixel Shader Blending. Effects will look bad ***** ** GS ERROR: Device doesn't support alpha blending for 16bit floating point targets. Quality will reduce. ***** ** GS ERROR: Device doesn't support G32R32F textures. Textures will look bad. ******* Last edited by IGMA950; August 2nd, 2006 at 03:34..

August 2nd, 2006	#131 (permalink)
mvntsdc Waiting for FFX at 40fps! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Brazil Posts: 49	zerogrog my uncle give to me 2 graphics Card: a Fx5600 and a Geforce Nx6600! Wich one is better to use your plugin? ( sorry my english, i will study )

August 2nd, 2006	#132 (permalink)
ldrancer Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: ky Posts: 1	hey.. good plugin. yea really nice. i had tried to play ffx with pcsx2 first time, and i used the default gfx plugin. tried it again today and the beginning is going faster. one thing. im using the zerogs plugin. at the top it says ps 2.0a and ffx looks like its running in ps 2 mode. anyway to get it to go to ps 3. i got support.

August 3rd, 2006	#133 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,300	mvntsdc:Nx6600 is the best card. __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

August 3rd, 2006	#134 (permalink)
hbinhlove2003 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Viet Nam Posts: 2	I have file BIOS for pcsx2.09 file size 11,8MB (PS2 Bios 30004R V6 Pal.bin PS2 Bios 30004R V6 Pal.MEC PS2 Bios 30004R V6 Pal.NVM rom1.bin scph10000.bin scph10000.NVM scph39001.bin scph39001.MEC scph39001.NVM SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.BIN SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.EROM SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.NVM SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.ROM1 SCPH-70004_BIOS_V12_PAL_200.ROM2) , but I can play , I configured follow the help file 10 step , when I chossed Run->CD , display is ZeroGS, my computer was freeze !!!, please help me, my computer is Intel Celeron 1,7GHz, RAM 384MB, VAG GeForce MX 400.

August 3rd, 2006	#135 (permalink)
General Plot Britchie Crazy Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 4,816	Heh, looks like you have quite a collection of BIOS files, and while I won't delve into where you got them from, I will remind you that FFX2's status is ingame only, and not playable. __________________ Intel Core i7 920 @ 3.4 Ghz \| 6 GB DDR3 RAM in Triple Channel \| GeForce GTX 285 2.5 TB Hard Drive Space \| Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Official betatester of PCSX2 and Co-owner of General Emulation

August 4th, 2006	#136 (permalink)
ulwan25 PCSX2 LowSystem User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Malaysia Posts: 313	no geforce 1,2,3,4,FX for ZeroGS. zerogs is for geforce 6 and ati x1000 and above. __________________ Alone Is A Quality Time Quality Time Builds Energy Energy Helps Us Hell yeah! help us to SLEEP!

August 4th, 2006	#137 (permalink)
zerofrog Emu author Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: my mind Posts: 374	ZeroGS KOSMOS supports any card with pixel shader 2.0. This includes all of GeForce 5000 series, ATI Radeon 9000 series, etc. So far, there is barely any image quality impact when using these low end cards, although it will be slower.

August 4th, 2006	#138 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,300	Glad to hear that! But im still saving for a gf 6600GT... __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

August 4th, 2006	#140 (permalink)
Wortany Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Konoha Posts: 232	hmm, I have a Geforce 6600GT and ZeroGS works fine, a lot slower than GSdx9, but works. Only thing is, I read about that DXCapsViewer on this thread and tried it out. For some reason it shows this: VertexShaderVersion 1.1 MaxVertexShaderConst 256 PixelShaderVersion 1.4 Now I'm just confused. Or is this program not trustable? (edit) I think I answered my own question with the information I just showed here. Last edited by Wortany; August 4th, 2006 at 18:43..