GSdx9

[MasterPhW]

Originally Posted by marvin16

Hey gabest this was asked before maybey you missed it, but will you still continue on the GSDX9 versions? or only GSDX10 from now on?

Originally Posted by gabest

Both, for a while, but of course gsdx9 won't have the new dx10 features.

Originally Posted by GOGETA_

hey gabest is there going to be future updates for gsdx9 ? Or you have good plans for gsdx10 ???

Mmh, I think Gabest already answered your question before you asked it... he will update GSDX9, but will implement some more features in the GDSX10 version...

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[SonicFX]

Originally Posted by gabest

If there are more games with vertical stripes, list them here and I try to "repair" them Gonna check on one piece next.

Ghost in the Shell Stand alone Complex
(other games I know where already listed)

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[Casval03]

Originally Posted by newheretoday

Hi everyone. I'd like to raise a question that has been confusing me for a while...

The game is SD Gundam G Generation Spirits, which I think is a super-minor title in the western world. It is almost fully playable with the newest Gsdx9. The graphics, however, are not perfect, having lots of texture errors. The problem here is that a number of people who have tested the game have no such issue at all. The only difference I could think of is all of their cards support pixel shader 3.0
Well, my video card is the old radeon x300, supporting up to PS2.0. But it's still unusual, at least to me, that Pcsx2 gives machine dependent performance. I mean, for the games I tested so far, I got exactly the same thing as those who own high-end machines do - only much slower...

My question is whether PS2.0 can correctly handle all display tasks. Is it a hardware problem or the issue may be fixed by updating some drivers?

GSdx9 gives very good speed for SD gundam G Generation Spirits. However I also have background texture problem especially in later stages. BTW, anyone know where GSdx9 stores settings? For Zerogs, it is in the inis directory but GSdx9 setting is not there.

[Dragonheart.by]

Casval03
BTW, anyone know where GSdx9 stores settings?
Yeah, I know. Check the registry:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Gabest\GSdx9\Settings

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[torra]

Originally Posted by Clickme

In FF12 some enemies like turtle type monsters or flans dont look properly (screenshot 1). Vossler's sword also looks strange (i suppose this is a greatsword you can get later, i dont have it yet). ZeroGS doesnt have these bugs (screenshot 3) but unfortunately it has other bugs which are much worse.

I'm seeing this problem as well with some enemies later in the game. It might be a mipmap issue or just a texture problem that effects multiple mipmap levels. In the first screen you can see artifacts on the tail of the horse enemy. As you get closer to the enemy in game and the mipmap level changes the artifact affects the upper texture. Funny thing is, it only happens no one side of the model. If you approach the enemy from the other side this doesn't happen.

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[shuffle2]

is https://guliverkli.svn.sourceforge.n...li/trunk/gsdx9 the best repository for me to use? I seem to remember seeing two different places to get GSdx9 source.

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[gabest]

Originally Posted by shuffle2

is https://guliverkli.svn.sourceforge.n...li/trunk/gsdx9 the best repository for me to use? I seem to remember seeing two different places to get GSdx9 source.

That is the main one.

Originally Posted by torra

I'm seeing this problem as well with some enemies later in the game. It might be a mipmap issue or just a texture problem that effects multiple mipmap levels. In the first screen you can see artifacts on the tail of the horse enemy. As you get closer to the enemy in game and the mipmap level changes the artifact affects the upper texture. Funny thing is, it only happens no one side of the model. If you approach the enemy from the other side this doesn't happen.

Yes, it's a very interesting effect in ffxii, you can see objects further away drawn with less detail and when you get closer it changes. Might be using mipmaps (not supported yet), but I'm not fully sure yet, it seems that the mesh changes too, but I might be wrong.

The texture is wrong btw, was fixed in the last dx10 release. Same error can be seen on one side of the "anchor" of the airship.

(Someone could actually patch ffxii to draw everything in the highest detail, must be a little z value check in the code )

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[Borisz]

Originally Posted by 12345

i have GEFORCE FX 5500 and i have broblem with gsdx10 error opinning gs

Geforce 5500 doesn't even support dx9 properly, yet alone 10.

[shuffle2]

Originally Posted by gabest

That is the main one.

thanks

Originally Posted by gabest

Yes, it's a very interesting effect in ffxii, you can see objects further away drawn with less detail and when you get closer it changes. Might be using mipmaps (not supported yet), but I'm not fully sure yet, it seems that the mesh changes too, but I might be wrong.

The texture is wrong btw, was fixed in the last dx10 release. Same error can be seen on one side of the "anchor" of the airship.

(Someone could actually patch ffxii to draw everything in the highest detail, must be a little z value check in the code )

LoD ?

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[gabest]

The GS can do mipmapping, but as I said, it's entirely ignored now. Since in ffxii you can actually see the different textures it must be manually controlled by the game. In automatic mode it would upload the texture levels, set the parameters, and let the GS choose/interpolate them. Because not always the first level can be on screen, I say it's manual.

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[mjack]

gabest please keep GSdx9 alive as long as possible. not everyone has dx10 GPU

many thanks for this great plugin !

[NexXxus]

Originally Posted by mjack

gabest please keep GSdx9 alive as long as possible. not everyone has dx10 GPU

many thanks for this great plugin !

true
gsdx9 is my only hope to play my favourite game FFX flawlessy with the best possible imagequality and great speeds.

but in zeroGS when you switch to AA16X the fps going kneedeep down, but not the case in gsdx9, i can use an internal d3d resolution of 1680x1050 and loose only 5-10fps in FFX, compared to native resolution

btw: i will donate you and the pcsx2 team something, when i get my paypal account to work!

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[emwearz]

In reality, progression is progression. If things can be done in DX10 that cant in DX9, then more effort should be put into the DX10 build.

(Same sorta thing happened with SSE2 being needed for the VM build, older hardware has its limited and it gets cutoff after awhile so that the project can move forward.).

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[SonicFX]

Originally Posted by emwearz

In reality, progression is progression. If things can be done in DX10 that cant in DX9, then more effort should be put into the DX10 build.

(Same sorta thing happened with SSE2 being needed for the VM build, older hardware has its limited and it gets cutoff after awhile so that the project can move forward.).

True but to replace a GPU you need more money to replace a CPU... and the proportion of people who have a none SSE2 CPU and a CPU with SSE2 support is a other than the proportion of people who have a DX10 GPU and thge pleople who have a DX9 GPU... Not to mention that many people don't like to use win vista...

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[AlphaProspector]

Originally Posted by SonicFX

True but to replace a GPU you need more money to replace a CPU... and the proportion of people who have a none SSE2 CPU and a CPU with SSE2 support is a other than the proportion of people who have a DX10 GPU and thge pleople who have a DX9 GPU... Not to mention that many people don't like to use win vista...

I have to agree. Considering the amount of versions Vista has (and that unscrupulous sellers will try to hit you with Vista Home Basic or Starter... especially if you are in an "emerging market") and that, well, they are still optimizing it whereas most computers today have WinXP.

I liked the idea of integrating all the features in a single plugin so users with DX10 can have a panel or something to enable options or take advantage so, when the time comes, the plugin can just ditch the dx9 part or leave it for testing purposes or something and fully focus on dx10.

Gabest posted not so long ago about how Shadow of the Colossus was getting closer to playable speeds with Gsdx9. Those were seriously interesting news, meaning that perhaps you don't really need that HUGE hardware changes to start getting things playable, though I'm more worried about compatibility given the amount of games (which include important titles) that still can't get past menus or go ingame with severe issues.

Nevertheless I'm impressed with the progresses made. That's one hell of a serious and epic job.

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Originally Posted by emwearz

In reality, progression is progression. If things can be done in DX10 that cant in DX9, then more effort should be put into the DX10 build.

(Same sorta thing happened with SSE2 being needed for the VM build, older hardware has its limited and it gets cutoff after awhile so that the project can move forward.).

I'd agree with that, but there is a difference between the SSE2 requirement for pcsx2 and the directx10 requirement.
SSE2 is already old and even pc's that are a few years old, should already have SSE2.
While directx10 is fairly new, only 5% of pc users or even less have a card that supports it, and windows vista. (I have a card, but I don't got vista )

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[emwearz]

SSE2 is already old and even pc's that are a few years old, should already have SSE2.

Yes but you see PCSX2 first required SSE2 (For both the TLB and the VM at first) over a year and a half ago (Closer to 2 years in reality). Athlon XP's which only had SSE were stopped on the production line in 2005 (thought released in 03). So they were stopped being created close to the time of its release, perhaps a few months earlier. Nvidia stopped creating new DX9 around a year ago. So the circumstances are similar, expect that those with DX9 cards can still use PCSX2 extremely productively.

To me I see it's a similar comparison, perhaps slightly more extreme though in this case as both a piece of hardware and a OS are required.

(When I made the SSE2 remark I was not talking about the present, I was talking about the situation back then when the forums were flooded with AthlonXP users complaing).

Just my 2cents anyway.

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[Borisz]

Problem with dx10 is that you need to change your whole setup for it, while sse2 was only cpu + mobo change.

I guess its time to build a new rig - core 2 + x3850, at least till the geforce 9 series is out.

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