20FPS in Zelda with XP1.5Ghz/Radeon9550XT

minciNashu · July 26th, 2006

I read some posts about PJ64 and some guys said that they got 60FPS in any game. I think Zelda: Ocarina is pretty well emulated but why do I get such a low framerate on a pretty decent system ?

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- the latest PJ64 & JabosD3D8 plugin
- Windows XP SP2 with Cat 6.3
- I get 20FPS, no matter the resolution (I've tested with 320x240 noAA and with 1024x768 6xAA & 16xAS, using fullscreen and ATI Tray Tools to display FPS)

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DeserTwolF · July 26th, 2006

its maybe your cat 6.3, download the newest cat and be hopefully it work, a friend with a 9550 told me he gets "white sreens" and much slowdowns, but its not the XT-vers.

Allnatural · July 26th, 2006

Zelda is designed to run at ~20fps. The 60 fps you've seen others refer to was likely VI/s (PJ64's toolbar shows this, despite the fact that it says FPS). Without going into the technical differences, all NTSC games should run at 60 VI/s, but the actual framerate will vary from game to game.

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PentiumPro · July 31st, 2006

^^^What the hell are you talking about? It's designed to run at 30 fps (29.97) @60hz. That's what a TV framerate is. For PAL games its a little lower at 50hz. The only reason the framerate IS higher in emulators is because of the way more advanced capabilities of a computer graphics card and higher hz capability of newer monitors.

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Allnatural · July 31st, 2006

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Originally Posted by PentiumPro

^^^What the hell are you talking about? It's designed to run at 30 fps (29.97) @60hz. That's what a TV framerate is. For PAL games its a little lower at 50hz.

The outputed signal is 60Hz, but the actual framerate is whatever the game designers program it to be. Smiff provided a detailed explanation when the same question was brought up at Emutalk recently.

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Originally Posted by PentiumPro

The only reason the framerate IS higher in emulators is because of the way more advanced capabilities of a computer graphics card and higher hz capability of newer monitors.

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WinterHell · July 31st, 2006

there is no problem the game to be 20 fps,or even 15 ,depending on the genre.And 60Hz NTSC normally means 2x30 halfs, or 30 full frames,but still doesnt mean our game is rendering 30 fps.The *missing* 10 frames are copied from some of those 20 frames.

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ViperXtreme · July 31st, 2006

yeah, that 20FPS is normal in zelda afaik, the 60FPS thing probably means %hardware emualtion, where 60 means your running the emulator at 100%.

its similar to playstation emulators, in some games ePSXe displays 59.9FPS and in fraps its 15 or 20FPS but the motion is the same as in the real PSX.

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PentiumPro · July 31st, 2006

Woah, I can't believe I posted that. I just had a short talk with my dad about this and I stand corrected. He pretty much said what you guys said. I was not in a uh, proper state of mind at the time. I was probably just spittin out words.lol.

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July 26th, 2006	#1 (permalink)
minciNashu Playa Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Absurdistan Posts: 1	20FPS in Zelda with XP1.5Ghz/Radeon9550XT I read some posts about PJ64 and some guys said that they got 60FPS in any game. I think Zelda: Ocarina is pretty well emulated but why do I get such a low framerate on a pretty decent system ? PS: - the latest PJ64 & JabosD3D8 plugin - Windows XP SP2 with Cat 6.3 - I get 20FPS, no matter the resolution (I've tested with 320x240 noAA and with 1024x768 6xAA & 16xAS, using fullscreen and ATI Tray Tools to display FPS) __________________ Don`t worry! There is no sugar. OS: Windows XP SP2 & Suse Linux 10.1 MB: ASRock K7VT2 VIA KT266A \| CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 1700+@1.5Ghz \| GPU: GeCube ATi Radeon 9550XT 128MB@400/300 RAM: 768MB DDR-SDRAM@266MHz \| HDD: 2x40GB 5400RPM 2MB Buffer ATA100 \| CDVD: LG GSA-4163B & ASUS CRW5224A

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July 26th, 2006	#2 (permalink)
DeserTwolF WiiDEoPlayA Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: C:\Programme\Jowood\Gothic3\ Posts: 29	its maybe your cat 6.3, download the newest cat and be hopefully it work, a friend with a 9550 told me he gets "white sreens" and much slowdowns, but its not the XT-vers.

July 26th, 2006	#3 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	Zelda is designed to run at ~20fps. The 60 fps you've seen others refer to was likely VI/s (PJ64's toolbar shows this, despite the fact that it says FPS). Without going into the technical differences, all NTSC games should run at 60 VI/s, but the actual framerate will vary from game to game. __________________ Videogame Gifs

July 31st, 2006	#4 (permalink)
PentiumPro Leading the way. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, California. USA Posts: 778	^^^What the hell are you talking about? It's designed to run at 30 fps (29.97) @60hz. That's what a TV framerate is. For PAL games its a little lower at 50hz. The only reason the framerate IS higher in emulators is because of the way more advanced capabilities of a computer graphics card and higher hz capability of newer monitors. __________________ CPU: P4 3.0GHZ Prescott HT @3.6][MB: Asus P5LD2][RAM: 1GB][Video Card: ASUS EAX800/ I.E. Radeon X800 256MB][Optiwrite DVD+R/RW 8x][40GB WinXP SP2-OS][250GB SATA Storage(Full)][120GB EIDE Storage (Full)][160GB Sata Storage][And one badass case!]

July 31st, 2006	#6 (permalink)
WinterHell programmer Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Varna,Bulgaria Posts: 203	there is no problem the game to be 20 fps,or even 15 ,depending on the genre.And 60Hz NTSC normally means 2x30 halfs, or 30 full frames,but still doesnt mean our game is rendering 30 fps.The missing 10 frames are copied from some of those 20 frames. __________________ ...until the day the sky rained fire! C2D 2x2.8Ghz,2GB DDR 800 KingSton,Geforce 9600GT PD 2x2.8Ghz,2GB DDR 666 Kingston,Geforce 6600GT,HD Audio,19" ViewSonic VX924 Sonic Team Rulzz

July 31st, 2006	#7 (permalink)
ViperXtreme Irregular User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,293	yeah, that 20FPS is normal in zelda afaik, the 60FPS thing probably means %hardware emualtion, where 60 means your running the emulator at 100%. its similar to playstation emulators, in some games ePSXe displays 59.9FPS and in fraps its 15 or 20FPS but the motion is the same as in the real PSX. __________________ System Specs? what "system specs?" are those edible? My Deviantart: http://viperxtreme.deviantart.com

July 31st, 2006	#8 (permalink)
PentiumPro Leading the way. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, California. USA Posts: 778	Woah, I can't believe I posted that. I just had a short talk with my dad about this and I stand corrected. He pretty much said what you guys said. I was not in a uh, proper state of mind at the time. I was probably just spittin out words.lol. __________________ CPU: P4 3.0GHZ Prescott HT @3.6][MB: Asus P5LD2][RAM: 1GB][Video Card: ASUS EAX800/ I.E. Radeon X800 256MB][Optiwrite DVD+R/RW 8x][40GB WinXP SP2-OS][250GB SATA Storage(Full)][120GB EIDE Storage (Full)][160GB Sata Storage][And one badass case!]