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west_49 · April 11th, 2003

alright after all the EpsxE i've been playing lately i decided to go back to some good old 64 so i downloded mario kart 64 and fired it up, it some graphical flaws which wasn't a big deal but the biggest thing i noticed was that it lagged at certain parts for around 1-5 seconds at a time. I just curios why this is hapening because i thought my system pretty good, atleast good enough to play nintendo 64 games. i'm running on a Asus Nforce 2 board, 2.2ghz T-bred B, geforce 3, 256 pc-3200, and audigy 2. i know i should really get 512 ram but i still think 256 should be enough for N64 games. i'd appreciate any help you could give and it might just be a driver or configuration problem that i have.

also i havn't really updated any of my N64 emulation software so what would be the best N64 emulator, video, and sound plugin to use?

**Yeloazndevil** · April 11th, 2003

what video plug-in are u using?

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Allnatural · April 11th, 2003

Use the video plugin from version 1.4.

Or try Rice's and icepir8's plugins.

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Galway no Sora · April 11th, 2003

Uhh, can you post your plugins here? We need to know the config before help you

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Sucks ha? Yeah, that's a laptop for sure.

west_49 · April 11th, 2003

yeah ok, i'm using Project 64 version 1.5 with Jabo's Direct 3D 6 1.5, Jabo's Direct sound 1.5 and under advanced settings my cpu core style is set to "recompiler", self-mod code method is set to "check memory advance", and default memory size is "4 MB"

April 11th, 2003

The random pauses is a problem with the newest version of pj64... try downloading version 1.4 of pj64... if that doesn't help, try 1.3.

felinusz · April 11th, 2003

I get lag with ALL plugins with Mario Kart 64 EXCEPT the newest glide plugin (0.31, available here at ngemu

). In fact I'm tempted to go buy a used Voodoo 3 PCI to use purely for N64 Emulation and it's odd compatibility w/glide.

Try using that and see what happens.

Also, it doesn't really matter how much ram you have for emuation purposes (which are mainly CPU and, with nice looking graphic settings, GPU based). anything more than 128 SD should suffice for the average user

(I have wasted my money on 'overkill' RAM in case you are looking at my system specs

)

west_49 · April 11th, 2003

well thanks for the tip but i actually got mario kart 64 working by reverting back to Project 64 version 1.4 instead of using 1.5 which is great. oh and 1024 ram isn't nesesarily a waste since it can be very usefull but i'd say make it atleast pc-3200 or faster or else it's kind of pointless

west_49 · April 11th, 2003

BTW, thanks for the help everybody, especially modem

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Allnatural · April 12th, 2003

The "issue" is in the video plugin, not the core. That being the case, you don't need to use v1.4, just the video plugin from 1.4.

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james.miller · April 15th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by felinusz
Also, it doesn't really matter how much ram you have for emuation purposes (which are mainly CPU and, with nice looking graphic settings, GPU based). anything more than 128 SD should suffice for the average user (I have wasted my money on 'overkill' RAM in case you are looking at my system specs )

actually thats not quite right. what a lot of people dont realise, is that when running games like perfect dark or goldeneye, both 1964 and pj64 actually take up over 100mb of ram. Now, leaving 28mb for everything else isnt such a good idea, is it? lol

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felinusz · April 15th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by james.miller

actually thats not quite right. what a lot of people dont realise, is that when running games like perfect dark or goldeneye, both 1964 and pj64 actually take up over 100mb of ram. Now, leaving 28mb for everything else isnt such a good idea, is it? lol

Jamesmiller:
Hmm, just checked and your right on that... I guess I have to eat my own words here...

But, those games (Perfect dark and Goldeneye) aren't really for the 'average' user as they are quite system intensive

.

West49:
I never use more that 800 megs of this RAM on anything besides benchmarking. and the RAM is actually 333 DDR, it's just backwards compatible. Although the 'backwards compatible' means that it causes tons of errors that f)ck up my system... Oh, well, time for a new motherboard...

james.miller · April 15th, 2003

yeah thats true. Mind you, even Mario64 uses 72mb on my system lol

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felinusz · April 15th, 2003

See how much RAM a game like Yoshi's Story takes up and you will really start laughing...

The most RAM intensive game I have is DK64. It uses about 150 megs.

west_49 · April 16th, 2003

how do you tell how much ram a game is using?

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felinusz · April 16th, 2003

Press ctrl-alt-delete when running it, click the 'system usage' tab on the menu (unless you are using the 'user-friendly' ctrl-alt-delete interface, changable in 'change how users log on and off' in the control panel) and it will show you RAM usage. Subtract what the system uses at idle and presto you have your number.

Note that the more RAM you have the more will be used. (keeping resources free and all)

April 11th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
west_49 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 107	desperate noob alright after all the EpsxE i've been playing lately i decided to go back to some good old 64 so i downloded mario kart 64 and fired it up, it some graphical flaws which wasn't a big deal but the biggest thing i noticed was that it lagged at certain parts for around 1-5 seconds at a time. I just curios why this is hapening because i thought my system pretty good, atleast good enough to play nintendo 64 games. i'm running on a Asus Nforce 2 board, 2.2ghz T-bred B, geforce 3, 256 pc-3200, and audigy 2. i know i should really get 512 ram but i still think 256 should be enough for N64 games. i'd appreciate any help you could give and it might just be a driver or configuration problem that i have. also i havn't really updated any of my N64 emulation software so what would be the best N64 emulator, video, and sound plugin to use?

April 11th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	I get lag with ALL plugins with Mario Kart 64 EXCEPT the newest glide plugin (0.31, available here at ngemu). In fact I'm tempted to go buy a used Voodoo 3 PCI to use purely for N64 Emulation and it's odd compatibility w/glide. Try using that and see what happens. Also, it doesn't really matter how much ram you have for emuation purposes (which are mainly CPU and, with nice looking graphic settings, GPU based). anything more than 128 SD should suffice for the average user (I have wasted my money on 'overkill' RAM in case you are looking at my system specs )

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April 11th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil Tsundere-chan Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,386	what video plug-in are u using? __________________

April 11th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	Use the video plugin from version 1.4. Or try Rice's and icepir8's plugins. __________________ Videogame Gifs

April 11th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Galway no Sora ~¤ PanZeR ¤~ idRO Thor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Valhalla, in Odin's throne Posts: 3,146	Uhh, can you post your plugins here? We need to know the config before help you __________________ Core 2 Duo 1.6 GHz «» 2048MB DDR2 RAM «» 256 MB onboard Graphic Onboard Realtek High Definition Soundcard «» 160 + 40 GB SATA HDD Pioneer DVD±RW «» 15.4" Widescreen LCD «» Windows Vista Ultimate Sucks ha? Yeah, that's a laptop for sure.

April 11th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
west_49 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 107	yeah ok, i'm using Project 64 version 1.5 with Jabo's Direct 3D 6 1.5, Jabo's Direct sound 1.5 and under advanced settings my cpu core style is set to "recompiler", self-mod code method is set to "check memory advance", and default memory size is "4 MB"

April 11th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Modem Guest Posts: n/a	The random pauses is a problem with the newest version of pj64... try downloading version 1.4 of pj64... if that doesn't help, try 1.3.

April 11th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
west_49 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 107	well thanks for the tip but i actually got mario kart 64 working by reverting back to Project 64 version 1.4 instead of using 1.5 which is great. oh and 1024 ram isn't nesesarily a waste since it can be very usefull but i'd say make it atleast pc-3200 or faster or else it's kind of pointless

April 11th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
west_49 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 107	BTW, thanks for the help everybody, especially modem __________________ AMD X2 3800+ manchester @ 2.7ghz DFI Ultra-D Nforce 4 /w 704-2bta custom bios 1024 OCZ DDR1 245mhz @ 6-2-2-2-1t EVGA 7900gs KO edition @ 530/745 /w Samsung 900NF Audigy 2 /w Creative 6.1 Speakers Windows XP Professional 32bit /w SP2 3DMark 2001 SE

April 12th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	The "issue" is in the video plugin, not the core. That being the case, you don't need to use v1.4, just the video plugin from 1.4. __________________ Videogame Gifs

April 15th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
james.miller Mr. Stupendous Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Here, There and Everywhere. Posts: 1,138	yeah thats true. Mind you, even Mario64 uses 72mb on my system lol __________________ Lives for the chase.

April 15th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	See how much RAM a game like Yoshi's Story takes up and you will really start laughing... The most RAM intensive game I have is DK64. It uses about 150 megs.

April 16th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
west_49 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 107	how do you tell how much ram a game is using? __________________ AMD X2 3800+ manchester @ 2.7ghz DFI Ultra-D Nforce 4 /w 704-2bta custom bios 1024 OCZ DDR1 245mhz @ 6-2-2-2-1t EVGA 7900gs KO edition @ 530/745 /w Samsung 900NF Audigy 2 /w Creative 6.1 Speakers Windows XP Professional 32bit /w SP2 3DMark 2001 SE

April 16th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,372	Press ctrl-alt-delete when running it, click the 'system usage' tab on the menu (unless you are using the 'user-friendly' ctrl-alt-delete interface, changable in 'change how users log on and off' in the control panel) and it will show you RAM usage. Subtract what the system uses at idle and presto you have your number. Note that the more RAM you have the more will be used. (keeping resources free and all)