Freaky Mario 64 graphics

Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

Mario 64 has weird problems with the 2D stuff using the newest Jabo D3D plugin. And since Jabo's D3D plugin came from PJ64, I thought I should post here even though I don't use PJ64. Here's a shot of my problem. I use a Intel video card.
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\Neo Kazaki\My Documents\My Pictures\mario.jpeg[/IMG]

**_E_** · October 25th, 2002

Intel video card are outdated and are not porbably support4ed by any N64 emulator due to its poor preformance. you should at least have a Nvidia TNT card or equivilant to emulate N64 games. Anyways, can you post a screenshot so we can see for ourselves?

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Badaro · October 25th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Kazaki
Mario 64 has weird problems with the 2D stuff using the newest Jabo D3D plugin. And since Jabo's D3D plugin came from PJ64, I thought I should post here even though I don't use PJ64. Here's a shot of my problem. I use a Intel video card.
[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\Neo Kazaki\My Documents\My Pictures\mario.jpeg[/IMG]

The link doesn't work, it's pointing to a path inside your machine.

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Originally posted by Kingstar
Intel video card are outdated and are not porbably support4ed by any N64 emulator due to its poor preformance. you should at least have a Nvidia TNT card or equivilant to emulate N64 games. Anyways, can you post a screenshot so we can see for ourselves?

I'm pretty sure his Intel is faster than a TNT1 card.

Anyway, the real problem is that Jabo's plugins are very picky on video cards, AFAIK they'll only run without glitches on GeForces and Radeons. I recommend you to try using Glide64 + eVoodoo, see if it works better with your video card.

[]s Badaro

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Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

I've tried Jabo's D3D on all emulators and get the same results. The game runs on 1964 at a FPS around 50-60. I've tried the Glide64 with the eVoodo and it made so many flashing polygons I thought my eyes would fall out.

When I try the normal blend option in Jabo's D3D, everything is perfect (and I'm so happy)... Then I notice the floor isn't being rendered anymore and it's all nully and trialy and all this other stuff that requires a picture to explian better

I would post a pic, but

heh, dunno how

**Yeloazndevil** · October 25th, 2002

Hey Kazaki, press the print screen key to capture a picture and use Paint to copy the picture there and save as Jpeg. then click post reply and near the bottom where it says attach file click browse and locate your pic and click submit reply

Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

Ahhh, ok, first pic is how it looks with Force Normal Blend on and the second is with it off:

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Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

With Force Normal Blend off:

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Allnatural · October 25th, 2002

You're not going to fix this problem unless you buy better hardware. The help file is pretty clear on these things.

Glide + eVoodoo is a fall-back measure, but if that isn't working for you you're simply out of luck.

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**_E_** · October 25th, 2002

this is a link to a thread were i posted my configuration settings. try to configure them this way and tell us what happens

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=26874

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Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

What version of Jabo are you using?

Also, I think I've found my problem. It seems to do with the blending, since normal blend seems to fix stuff and break others while the default is just... not very good with 2D stuff.

Maybe there's a way to fix the blend in a different version?

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**_E_** · October 25th, 2002

First of all, I would Recommend Using Project 64 v1.5 final since it contain alot of fixes and is the most compatible N64 emu right now. I use Jabo's Direct3D6 and Direct3D7 v1.5 plugins, they are quite similar though...

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Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

Project 64 is waaaay to slow for my PC, and I can't find a Jabo's D3D7 in the plugin menu...

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**_E_** · October 25th, 2002

There you go, I have version 1.4 though...........

extract this file and copy it to the plugin folder

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Kazaki · October 25th, 2002

Well, it's getting better. This is Jabo's D3D7 V. 1.40 running with force normal blend:

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mario 3.jpg (95.6 KB, 159 views)

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**_E_** · October 26th, 2002

Nice to see it work again. BTW,I think you have to configure it well. There are some glitches that i can notive from your pic

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Last edited by _E_; October 26th, 2002 at 00:18.

Kazaki · October 26th, 2002

I'm not going to use PJ64 till I get a better video card

It's way to slow on my PC, but I'll try it anyway

For testing purposes and to see my computer struggle.

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Weeeeeee!

**_E_** · October 26th, 2002

okay,.....just try to configure the vidoe settings well and i think thats it! no more can be done! last to thing is: Enjoy Super Mario64!

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Kazaki · October 26th, 2002

Okay, I'll enjoy. <goes to N64 and plays>

Did someone delete a post?

Also, does a Jabo D3D7 1.50 exist?

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2bzy4ne1 · October 26th, 2002

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Originally posted by Kazaki
Also, does a Jabo D3D7 1.50 exist?

No there isn't. Jabo said that directx 6 has all that you need for n64 emulation and therefore didn't feel the need to port it over to directx 7.

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2bzy4ne1 · October 26th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Kazaki
Well, it's getting better.:

If you want to make it look even better than that, use an even older version of jabo's video plugin like 1.2 or 1.3. I should know since I have integrated video on my board and I know what it is like. but i don't have that problem anymore since I switched to my geforce2 mx.

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October 25th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Kazaki Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 32	Freaky Mario 64 graphics Mario 64 has weird problems with the 2D stuff using the newest Jabo D3D plugin. And since Jabo's D3D plugin came from PJ64, I thought I should post here even though I don't use PJ64. Here's a shot of my problem. I use a Intel video card. [IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\Neo Kazaki\My Documents\My Pictures\mario.jpeg[/IMG]

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October 25th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 8,918	Intel video card are outdated and are not porbably support4ed by any N64 emulator due to its poor preformance. you should at least have a Nvidia TNT card or equivilant to emulate N64 games. Anyways, can you post a screenshot so we can see for ourselves? __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 25th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Kazaki Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 32	I've tried Jabo's D3D on all emulators and get the same results. The game runs on 1964 at a FPS around 50-60. I've tried the Glide64 with the eVoodo and it made so many flashing polygons I thought my eyes would fall out. When I try the normal blend option in Jabo's D3D, everything is perfect (and I'm so happy)... Then I notice the floor isn't being rendered anymore and it's all nully and trialy and all this other stuff that requires a picture to explian better I would post a pic, but heh, dunno how

October 25th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,212	Hey Kazaki, press the print screen key to capture a picture and use Paint to copy the picture there and save as Jpeg. then click post reply and near the bottom where it says attach file click browse and locate your pic and click submit reply

October 25th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Allnatural No preservatives™ Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Toledo, OH. USA Posts: 965	You're not going to fix this problem unless you buy better hardware. The help file is pretty clear on these things. Glide + eVoodoo is a fall-back measure, but if that isn't working for you you're simply out of luck. __________________ Videogame Gifs

October 25th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 8,918	this is a link to a thread were i posted my configuration settings. try to configure them this way and tell us what happens http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=26874 __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 25th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Kazaki Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 32	What version of Jabo are you using? Also, I think I've found my problem. It seems to do with the blending, since normal blend seems to fix stuff and break others while the default is just... not very good with 2D stuff. Maybe there's a way to fix the blend in a different version? __________________ Lets go Marlins, lets go! -Specs- Pentium 4 3.2 gHz HT ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP 8x Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Pro 512 DDR SDRam @400 mHz Weeeeeee!

October 25th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 8,918	First of all, I would Recommend Using Project 64 v1.5 final since it contain alot of fixes and is the most compatible N64 emu right now. I use Jabo's Direct3D6 and Direct3D7 v1.5 plugins, they are quite similar though... __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 25th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Kazaki Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 32	Project 64 is waaaay to slow for my PC, and I can't find a Jabo's D3D7 in the plugin menu... __________________ Lets go Marlins, lets go! -Specs- Pentium 4 3.2 gHz HT ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP 8x Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Pro 512 DDR SDRam @400 mHz Weeeeeee!

October 26th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 8,918	Nice to see it work again. BTW,I think you have to configure it well. There are some glitches that i can notive from your pic __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith Last edited by _E_; October 26th, 2002 at 00:18.

October 26th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Kazaki Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 32	I'm not going to use PJ64 till I get a better video card It's way to slow on my PC, but I'll try it anyway For testing purposes and to see my computer struggle. __________________ Lets go Marlins, lets go! -Specs- Pentium 4 3.2 gHz HT ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP 8x Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Pro 512 DDR SDRam @400 mHz Weeeeeee!

October 26th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
_E_ Lurking Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: somewhere Posts: 8,918	okay,.....just try to configure the vidoe settings well and i think thats it! no more can be done! last to thing is: Enjoy Super Mario64! __________________ -= Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right way is not always =- the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character. Margaret C. Smith

October 26th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
Kazaki Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 32	Okay, I'll enjoy. <goes to N64 and plays> Did someone delete a post? Also, does a Jabo D3D7 1.50 exist? __________________ Lets go Marlins, lets go! -Specs- Pentium 4 3.2 gHz HT ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128 MB AGP 8x Sound Blaster Audigy 2 Pro 512 DDR SDRam @400 mHz Weeeeeee!