Zelda2 MOM

RF · May 20th, 2002

What plugin(s) and setting(s) was used to get MOM workin like this?

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=17334

The picture is what i currently get, and the rom info.

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AbbaddoN · May 20th, 2002

what plugins do you use?
i use jabo's d3d7 video plugin and look fine.

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AbbaddoN · May 20th, 2002

with jabo's d3d7 zelda2 mom look like this:

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RF · May 20th, 2002

yea i used jabo's d3d 7 plugin, thats what i got.

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RF · May 20th, 2002

can u post your rom info plz? and your settings for jabo's d3d7

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AbbaddoN · May 20th, 2002

sure, there is rom and plugin info.

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RF · May 20th, 2002

Thanks, still looks the same tho, i guess its just my pc.

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n64warrior · May 20th, 2002

try downloading the latest drivers for your card! or some eary like last years . with my old nvidia , when i last used it i had the 2000 drivers on it my system, and it worked way awsome..but now i think i need a new 1!!any 1 got agood cheap nvidia video card!

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Mad · May 21st, 2002

Your problem is the Voodoo
Geforces have no problem with jabo d3d, even the cheapest one

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doraemon · May 21st, 2002

yep, blame the voodoo for the crappy gfx... why don't u buy a geforce2 mx??? or a 4mx?? they are cheap, and way better... many may argue for the 4 mx, but for emu purposes it is ok... and cheap...

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RF · May 22nd, 2002

yea i guess. I will look into it. What about the radeon 8500?

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**fivefeet8** · May 22nd, 2002

Don't listen to those guys.. Use Dave's glide64 pluggin with your voodoo 3.. It's the best N64 emu graphics pluggin for voodoo cards.. It runs Zelda OOT perfectly and Dave is currently working on MM..

I also get that weird graphics with my voodoo 5 and jabo's d3d.. IT's more a fault of jabo's d3d than the voodoo's..

If you got some cash to spare then go for the upgrade.. Try out glide64 before you buy a new card though..

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EddyB43 · May 22nd, 2002

That original image is actually REALLY iffy, even for a Voodoo3. When I used to run Zelda 2 on my V3, the most glaring problem for me was the fact it wouldn't render the sky (just shaded it red). Disabling AGP texturing/Advanced AGP with the classic DX tool would help for Jabo's. 3rd party drivers like x3dfx's from Voodoo Files can do better job's than the standard v1.05 or v1.07 drivers.

But as fivefeet8 says, enjoy the miracle that Dave got the Zelda's working with Glide64 so quickly, it should now look as good as UHLE Zelda ever did but in much higher resolutions like 1280x960.

*EDIT*
Just noticed you are running the PAL version, it will have many resolution issues. You'll want to get a known good US version (NTSC) to ease play, unless you can live with those issues just for the lower speed requirements that 50VI/s over 60VI/s earns you.
*/EDIT*

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Laguna Loire · May 23rd, 2002

I've got my V3 running OOT and MM almost perfect with Glide64.

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Koji2009 · May 28th, 2002

MoM uses the extended Vram which means emulators have to use extra Vram to emulate all textures... If a plugin is not optimized for a specific card ( in this case V3 and it's 16megs ram) then it will not show the textures at all keep the program from slowing... your best bet is to use a plugin made for Voodoo cards as all others are optimized for at least 32megs Vram.

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Smiff · May 29th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Koji |{night
MoM uses the extended Vram which means emulators have to use extra Vram to emulate all textures... If a plugin is not optimized for a specific card ( in this case V3 and it's 16megs ram) then it will not show the textures at all keep the program from slowing... your best bet is to use a plugin made for Voodoo cards as all others are optimized for at least 32megs Vram.

bollox, you don't know what you're talking about

Koji2009 · May 29th, 2002

Probably... I know quite a lot about a lot of things... but most of what I do is conjecture about it then forget to put that I don't know how anything really works and that what I am saying is usually a guess based on

A: Past experiences I have had... in this case a long time ago when I had a voodoo 2 I had similar problems when playing PSX games in bleem. As well as playing MoM with my dad's laptop that only had a 8 meg ATI card.

B: Others past experience... I have heard such things happening to other people and there fore used that as it fit my original thesis based on my personal experience with another emulator.

C: Technical explanations I have gathered from other people who I trust I know what they are talking about. In this case I didn't have any direct link with explantations I had heard before but I remember hearing someone say that texture loss is due to lack of V-ram on a card. I had thought the 4 meg add-on for the N64 had been video based as it increased resolution and other video aspects. Because of that I would assume that the person who is trying to emulate such a game would need more v-ram themselves unless a card had been suitably optimized for such a task...

I am sorry for the misconceptions... thanks for correcting me so I don't make such a stupid mistake again.

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stef2001_1975 · October 31st, 2002

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Originally posted by AbbaddoN
sure, there is rom and plugin info.

I have noticed that you are using the PAL version of the ROM. Did you play this game in French ?

Because i am french (a newbie in PJ64 also), and i didn't find on the net how to choose the french language of the game ?

To stay in the topic, my Zelda' graphic are pretty good with my GF 4 Ti 4200.

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**cooliscool** · October 31st, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Koji2009
Probably... I know quite a lot about a lot of things... but most of what I do is conjecture about it then forget to put that I don't know how anything really works and that what I am saying is usually a guess based on

A: Past experiences I have had... in this case a long time ago when I had a voodoo 2 I had similar problems when playing PSX games in bleem. As well as playing MoM with my dad's laptop that only had a 8 meg ATI card.

B: Others past experience... I have heard such things happening to other people and there fore used that as it fit my original thesis based on my personal experience with another emulator.

C: Technical explanations I have gathered from other people who I trust I know what they are talking about. In this case I didn't have any direct link with explantations I had heard before but I remember hearing someone say that texture loss is due to lack of V-ram on a card. I had thought the 4 meg add-on for the N64 had been video based as it increased resolution and other video aspects. Because of that I would assume that the person who is trying to emulate such a game would need more v-ram themselves unless a card had been suitably optimized for such a task...

I am sorry for the misconceptions... thanks for correcting me so I don't make such a stupid mistake again.

ROFL!!! MoM uses the memory expansion, and that is NOT Vram. Missing textures (especiall in bleem!) Are due to **** driver support.

reichfuher: use glide64.

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	Zelda2 MOM What plugin(s) and setting(s) was used to get MOM workin like this? http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=17334 The picture is what i currently get, and the rom info. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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May 20th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
AbbaddoN Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: México Posts: 23	what plugins do you use? i use jabo's d3d7 video plugin and look fine. __________________ Pentium 4 1.5 GHz [COLOR=sky blue]256 Mb RAM[/color] Nvidia TNT2 Riva Model 64 [COLOR=sky blue]Windows Me[/color] :rockets:

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	yea i used jabo's d3d 7 plugin, thats what i got. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	can u post your rom info plz? and your settings for jabo's d3d7 __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	Thanks, still looks the same tho, i guess its just my pc. __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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n64warrior Emulation freak Join Date: May 2002 Location: earth Posts: 183	try downloading the latest drivers for your card! or some eary like last years . with my old nvidia , when i last used it i had the 2000 drivers on it my system, and it worked way awsome..but now i think i need a new 1!!any 1 got agood cheap nvidia video card! __________________ i am a fan of emuators and of emulation!!! fell the power of my new verto geforce4!

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Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,302	Your problem is the Voodoo Geforces have no problem with jabo d3d, even the cheapest one __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

May 21st, 2002	#10 (permalink)
doraemon Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Greece Posts: 30	yep, blame the voodoo for the crappy gfx... why don't u buy a geforce2 mx??? or a 4mx?? they are cheap, and way better... many may argue for the 4 mx, but for emu purposes it is ok... and cheap... __________________ Athllon XP 1800+/ KT266 / CL Geforce2 GTS/ SBLive! / 512MB DDR RAM

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RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,744	yea i guess. I will look into it. What about the radeon 8500? __________________ CPU: Core i7 920 \ MB: EVGA X58 \ RAM: 12GB OCZ DDR3-1600 \ GPU: SLI 8800GTX HDD: 2x 150GB VelociRaptor R0 / PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850w / OS: Windows 7 x64

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,700	Don't listen to those guys.. Use Dave's glide64 pluggin with your voodoo 3.. It's the best N64 emu graphics pluggin for voodoo cards.. It runs Zelda OOT perfectly and Dave is currently working on MM.. I also get that weird graphics with my voodoo 5 and jabo's d3d.. IT's more a fault of jabo's d3d than the voodoo's.. If you got some cash to spare then go for the upgrade.. Try out glide64 before you buy a new card though.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Ubuntu 64bit/Vista 32bit\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition Last edited by fivefeet8; May 22nd, 2002 at 03:38..

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EddyB43 Old Gaming Guy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: UK Posts: 93	That original image is actually REALLY iffy, even for a Voodoo3. When I used to run Zelda 2 on my V3, the most glaring problem for me was the fact it wouldn't render the sky (just shaded it red). Disabling AGP texturing/Advanced AGP with the classic DX tool would help for Jabo's. 3rd party drivers like x3dfx's from Voodoo Files can do better job's than the standard v1.05 or v1.07 drivers. But as fivefeet8 says, enjoy the miracle that Dave got the Zelda's working with Glide64 so quickly, it should now look as good as UHLE Zelda ever did but in much higher resolutions like 1280x960. EDIT Just noticed you are running the PAL version, it will have many resolution issues. You'll want to get a known good US version (NTSC) to ease play, unless you can live with those issues just for the lower speed requirements that 50VI/s over 60VI/s earns you. /EDIT __________________ Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz 100FSB 384MB PC100 SDRAM GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB 120GB 7200rpm IBM and 60GB 5400rpm Maxtor IDE hard drives. Creative SB PCI128 LiteON 16x10x40 CD-RW and Samsung SD-616Q 16x DVD-ROM

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Laguna Loire Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 78	I've got my V3 running OOT and MM almost perfect with Glide64. __________________ Excitate vos e somno, liberi mei. Cunnae non sunt. Excitate vos e sumno, liberi fatali. Somnus non eat. ...

May 28th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Koji2009 Don't make me stab you... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wherever my shiny sword takes me. Posts: 338	MoM uses the extended Vram which means emulators have to use extra Vram to emulate all textures... If a plugin is not optimized for a specific card ( in this case V3 and it's 16megs ram) then it will not show the textures at all keep the program from slowing... your best bet is to use a plugin made for Voodoo cards as all others are optimized for at least 32megs Vram. __________________ As I meander about my life I wonder if it's all worth it... Then I see my huge anime collection in the corner and I know it was not all in vain. -Writing crappy books and crappy drawings... what better to do with that free time then blow it here instead?

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Koji2009 Don't make me stab you... Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wherever my shiny sword takes me. Posts: 338	Probably... I know quite a lot about a lot of things... but most of what I do is conjecture about it then forget to put that I don't know how anything really works and that what I am saying is usually a guess based on A: Past experiences I have had... in this case a long time ago when I had a voodoo 2 I had similar problems when playing PSX games in bleem. As well as playing MoM with my dad's laptop that only had a 8 meg ATI card. B: Others past experience... I have heard such things happening to other people and there fore used that as it fit my original thesis based on my personal experience with another emulator. C: Technical explanations I have gathered from other people who I trust I know what they are talking about. In this case I didn't have any direct link with explantations I had heard before but I remember hearing someone say that texture loss is due to lack of V-ram on a card. I had thought the 4 meg add-on for the N64 had been video based as it increased resolution and other video aspects. Because of that I would assume that the person who is trying to emulate such a game would need more v-ram themselves unless a card had been suitably optimized for such a task... I am sorry for the misconceptions... thanks for correcting me so I don't make such a stupid mistake again. __________________ As I meander about my life I wonder if it's all worth it... Then I see my huge anime collection in the corner and I know it was not all in vain. -Writing crappy books and crappy drawings... what better to do with that free time then blow it here instead?