which emulator and 3d card are most reliable

knightofheineke · April 23rd, 2002

Hello everybody,

I had been playing psx with my voodoo 2 3000 for a long time, but since i'm out of games and I feel that my computer is going prehistoric, I though it was time for an upgrade.
Which is the best emulator (for compatibility) and what card should I buy to play N64 on my computer?
Thanks!

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Zell · April 23rd, 2002

A Geforce or Radeon . I prefer Geforce but that's up to you .

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EddyB43 · April 23rd, 2002

I'd highly recommend a GeForce 2 (MX/Ti/normal, class of GF2 doesn't really matter for emulation quality) or higher, simply because most plugins are coded for it. The only other card that comes close are the Radeons, but they unfortunately have some nasty driver issues that make an nVidia preferable.

eVoodoo can be useful as a Glide wrapper for running UltraHLE. It's not perfect, but if you've got useful UHLE savestates then it's worth a try.

I used to use a Voodoo 3 3000 personally, until I replaced it with a GeForce2 Ti. Seems the Voodoo3 was causing my machine's instability, and it definitely supplied a speed boost in some games (GLQuake went from 41fps for 1280x960 up to 60fps, nice enough for me).

And for emulation, the most important reason is simple: Most graphics plugin coders work with GeForce2's or better, so their plugins work best on nVidia hardware.

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**Snake785** · April 23rd, 2002

Since you have a Voodoo 2 card, why don't you use SupraHLE? That has been coded for Glide cards and should run great on your system. The only problem is that it isn't as compatible as the other ones.

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sk8bloke22 · April 24th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by knightofheineke
Hello everybody,

I had been playing psx with my voodoo 2 3000 for a long time, but since i'm out of games and I feel that my computer is going prehistoric, I though it was time for an upgrade.
Which is the best emulator (for compatibility) and what card should I buy to play N64 on my computer?
Thanks!

screw uhle, use pj64 and dave2001's glide640.1 plugin. its ****ing amazing (not jabo standard quite yet, but will soon be a serious contender), heck im even tempted to get a voodoo2 card for it.

version 0.1 plays smashbrothers, ridge racer 64, zelda OoT, and lots more. in an unreleased version, apparently Majoras Mask is running near perfect, and conkers bad fur day is also compatible. so voodoo users dont give up ur voodoo cards that easil.

the current version 0.1 should be availabe from www.ngemu.com (i think its still on the homepage) if not im sure its linked somewhere on ngemu's n64 plugin section. i cant remember dave's site

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sk8bloke22 · April 24th, 2002

heres a link to dave's site: http://www.emuxhaven.net/~glide64/

has some useful info on necessary 3dfx drivers, so i guess its best to go there first.

non-voodoo users can experience dave2001's plugin using the latest evoodoo wrapper (make sure u stick the glide3.dll in the pj64/1964 dir, not the plugin folder, otherwise the plugin wont work). it has issues though. this time it really does benefit to hav a voodoo card.

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Esturk · April 24th, 2002

I agree. Daves plugin is awesome.

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REi_FoX · April 24th, 2002

or maybe lewpys i dont have a voodoo but people here usually tells people to someohow use it

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knightofheineke · April 24th, 2002

Well, I never though thjat my voodoo card could make up with the geforce with the new emulators... I used Ultrahle when I was working on win98, but though that since that time ALL the programmers were going to write their emus for the new genetration 3d cards.
Do you think that why my card is still of some use is because of his enhanced 2d performance compared to the new ones?

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sk8bloke22 · April 24th, 2002

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Originally posted by knightofheineke
Well, I never though thjat my voodoo card could make up with the geforce with the new emulators... I used Ultrahle when I was working on win98, but though that since that time ALL the programmers were going to write their emus for the new genetration 3d cards.
Do you think that why my card is still of some use is because of his enhanced 2d performance compared to the new ones?

dave's plugin will literally knock uhle down with ease. in fact, if u r just using emus for games, theres very few reasons now for voodoo users to actually ever use uhle again. personally i like uhle, even with a wrapper, dunno why i just do. still, at the moment, any voodoo user will get tremendous results with a voodoo2 and any other voodoo card beyond that and pj64 (or other zilmar-spec emus). and that means plenty of games to play.

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**Zephon** · April 24th, 2002

I agree. Glide64 is outstanding, and it can make wonders with my Voodoo2. However, Ultra/SupraHLE have much lower requirements, while 1964/PJ64/Apollo and all the newer n64 emus require a high-end pc. I have a PentiumII 400, 64MB and I can play SupraHLE with full speed(or almost). The other emus run quite slowly(1964 is quite fast, but not as much as SupraHLE). But still the compatibility in SupraHLE is much lower than the others.

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knightofheineke · April 24th, 2002

Hey! everything works fine for now and everything should be fine if I had something to see. It seems that the games runs, I can start a game, hear sound but I don't see anything the screen is black.
Am I a freaking moron or what? I've searched for any info that could help but haven't seen anything. Does anyone have a clue of what is happening or is anyone know a link I should've read and missed completely?
I feel like I need a book like N64 installation for dummy...

Voodoo 2 3000
384mg ram
Pentium3 800mhz

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**Zephon** · April 25th, 2002

There is no Voodoo2 3000 AFAIK. The Voodoo2 was released just as Voodoo2, and later as Voodoo2 1000. The Voodoo3 was released in three models: 2000, 3000 and 3500. So, which one is really your card?

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Esturk · April 25th, 2002

Perhaps he meant, Voodoo3 2000. Like I have.

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knightofheineke · April 26th, 2002

Then I must've spelled it wrong. This should be the voodoo3 2000.

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Kunzite · April 29th, 2002

My Radeon card has only struggled, so now I only use Geforce

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knightofheineke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: canada Posts: 50	which emulator and 3d card are most reliable Hello everybody, I had been playing psx with my voodoo 2 3000 for a long time, but since i'm out of games and I feel that my computer is going prehistoric, I though it was time for an upgrade. Which is the best emulator (for compatibility) and what card should I buy to play N64 on my computer? Thanks! __________________ -if computer games are spoiling your studies, drop your studies- Jack

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knightofheineke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: canada Posts: 50	thanks Well, I never though thjat my voodoo card could make up with the geforce with the new emulators... I used Ultrahle when I was working on win98, but though that since that time ALL the programmers were going to write their emus for the new genetration 3d cards. Do you think that why my card is still of some use is because of his enhanced 2d performance compared to the new ones? __________________ -if computer games are spoiling your studies, drop your studies- Jack

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April 23rd, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Zell The Sword Saint Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Death Zone Posts: 1,750	A Geforce or Radeon . I prefer Geforce but that's up to you . __________________ Kuzuryusen ! God-like speed to attack all nine vital points in one stroke. Impossible to dodge and defend ! How want's to stop me E-Mail

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EddyB43 Old Gaming Guy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: UK Posts: 93	I'd highly recommend a GeForce 2 (MX/Ti/normal, class of GF2 doesn't really matter for emulation quality) or higher, simply because most plugins are coded for it. The only other card that comes close are the Radeons, but they unfortunately have some nasty driver issues that make an nVidia preferable. eVoodoo can be useful as a Glide wrapper for running UltraHLE. It's not perfect, but if you've got useful UHLE savestates then it's worth a try. I used to use a Voodoo 3 3000 personally, until I replaced it with a GeForce2 Ti. Seems the Voodoo3 was causing my machine's instability, and it definitely supplied a speed boost in some games (GLQuake went from 41fps for 1280x960 up to 60fps, nice enough for me). And for emulation, the most important reason is simple: Most graphics plugin coders work with GeForce2's or better, so their plugins work best on nVidia hardware. __________________ Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz 100FSB 384MB PC100 SDRAM GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB 120GB 7200rpm IBM and 60GB 5400rpm Maxtor IDE hard drives. Creative SB PCI128 LiteON 16x10x40 CD-RW and Samsung SD-616Q 16x DVD-ROM

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Snake785 Prepare for Descent... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 2,619	Since you have a Voodoo 2 card, why don't you use SupraHLE? That has been coded for Glide cards and should run great on your system. The only problem is that it isn't as compatible as the other ones. __________________ My Computer specs: Pentium 4 2.6Ghz 512 MB of RAM Geforce FX 5700 128 MB Windows XP SP1 Click here for Flaretech.Biz Web Hosting

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sk8bloke22 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: london Posts: 158	heres a link to dave's site: http://www.emuxhaven.net/~glide64/ has some useful info on necessary 3dfx drivers, so i guess its best to go there first. non-voodoo users can experience dave2001's plugin using the latest evoodoo wrapper (make sure u stick the glide3.dll in the pj64/1964 dir, not the plugin folder, otherwise the plugin wont work). it has issues though. this time it really does benefit to hav a voodoo card. __________________ Athlon 950, 256 ram, Geforce 2 GTS, Soundblaster live!, winxp pro final

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Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,958	I agree. Daves plugin is awesome. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5Q Deluxe, Intel P45 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

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REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,649	or maybe lewpys i dont have a voodoo but people here usually tells people to someohow use it __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,707	I agree. Glide64 is outstanding, and it can make wonders with my Voodoo2. However, Ultra/SupraHLE have much lower requirements, while 1964/PJ64/Apollo and all the newer n64 emus require a high-end pc. I have a PentiumII 400, 64MB and I can play SupraHLE with full speed(or almost). The other emus run quite slowly(1964 is quite fast, but not as much as SupraHLE). But still the compatibility in SupraHLE is much lower than the others. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

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knightofheineke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: canada Posts: 50	Hey! everything works fine for now and everything should be fine if I had something to see. It seems that the games runs, I can start a game, hear sound but I don't see anything the screen is black. Am I a freaking moron or what? I've searched for any info that could help but haven't seen anything. Does anyone have a clue of what is happening or is anyone know a link I should've read and missed completely? I feel like I need a book like N64 installation for dummy... Voodoo 2 3000 384mg ram Pentium3 800mhz __________________ -if computer games are spoiling your studies, drop your studies- Jack

April 25th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,707	There is no Voodoo2 3000 AFAIK. The Voodoo2 was released just as Voodoo2, and later as Voodoo2 1000. The Voodoo3 was released in three models: 2000, 3000 and 3500. So, which one is really your card? __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

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Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,958	Perhaps he meant, Voodoo3 2000. Like I have. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5Q Deluxe, Intel P45 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

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knightofheineke Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: canada Posts: 50	Then I must've spelled it wrong. This should be the voodoo3 2000. __________________ -if computer games are spoiling your studies, drop your studies- Jack

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Kunzite Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 80	My Radeon card has only struggled, so now I only use Geforce