about NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 and OpenGL2

[producer2007]

i have some problems, ive seen everyone using the internal x y settings on 1, thing is when i try these settings everything is really slow (like 5 fps) even though my card 'should' support it. here is my config that works flawlessly on any game i run

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.8
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce FX 5200/PCI/SSE2

Resolution/Color:
- 800x600 Fullscreen - NO desktop changing
- Internal X resolution: 0
- Internal Y resolution: 0
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off
- No render-to-texture: 

- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 0
- TexWin pixel shader: on
- VRam size: 128 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: 65.0

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 1
- Framebuffer effects: 2
- Framebuffer uploads: 1

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Mdec filter: on
- Screen filtering: on
- Shader effects: 1/2
- Flicker-fix border size: 2
- GF4/XP crash fix: off
- Game fixes: on [00001002]




so whats with the internal x and y resolutions? btw my pc specs r as follows:

cpu - 2.6ghz celeron d
ram - 256mb (i know i gotta upgrade)
hd - 7200rpm 60gb
sound - audigy 4
cd - dvd burner
joystick - recoil gge 909

i get the same issue on my vista machine with 1 gig of ram and a radeon x1300, x and y high res runs about 5 frames per second

thanks in advance for the help

[Squall-Leonhart]

your video card is extremely slow, and you can't compare to what others with a 5200 would get as they would have AGP versions.

[producer2007]

i forgot to mention i have the geforce overclocked to 320 core mhz and 515 ram

but what about the radeon x1300? it is PCI-E 16x which is alot faster than agp, but i still get the problem on that card as well

[Squall-Leonhart]

your ram would probably hold your performance back

1 thing about these new cards is they perform better when pushed... as this takes the load of the cpu.

[hushypushy]

Try updating your graphics card drivers. Your specs certainly are good enough to run PSX emulation. The OGL2 plugin may not be the best bet for you though, have you tried OpenGL 1.76?

[Yeloazndevil]

I've tried the OGL2 plugin on a lot of FX cards when I got them for free only the fx5900 could run it well. so openGL 1.76 is the best bet

[producer2007]

k thanks for the help, guess theres no way to get the high res using this card huh?

[Hard core Rikki]

Funny noone noticed
FX series except the latest one has very poor shader speed

For more speed:
- Disable "use pixel shader for psx texture window"
- AND disable "shader effects" (these will slow you A LOT)

For better quality (and faster gameplay as same time)
- both internal resolutions set to "high"
- offscreen drawing set to "extended"
- framebuffer effects set to "standard"

End. Report if fixed

[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by Yeloazndevil

I've tried the OGL2 plugin on a lot of FX cards when I got them for free only the fx5900 could run it well. so openGL 1.76 is the best bet

indeed, anything less only has a 128bit bus and this is poorly for FBE's

Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

Funny noone noticed
FX series except the latest one has very poor shader speed

For more speed:
- Disable "use pixel shader for psx texture window"
- AND disable "shader effects" (these will slow you A LOT)

For better quality (and faster gameplay as same time)
- both internal resolutions set to "high"
- offscreen drawing set to "extended"
- framebuffer effects set to "standard"

End. Report if fixed

err, no, i didn't miss it, but a normal AGP 5200 is able to use the OGL2 plugin, as long as its set accordingly
, the PCI model is further cut down then the agp version

PCI - 133MB/s to agp 4x - 1066MB/s

this bottlenecks the transfer of FBE and memory uploads to the card

[producer2007]

ok hard core rikki i tried ur settings that u mentioned, same thing as before, plus the screen looks like hell lol, below r the settings and a pic using those settings, then a pic using my config mentioned above, looks much better but no high res x y and runs at 65fps through the full game........btw about the shaders, i know this card is slow at ps2.0 i have it forced to 1.4 for better results

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL2 Driver 2.8
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce FX 5200/PCI/SSE2

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - NO desktop changing
- Internal X resolution: 1
- Internal Y resolution: 1
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off
- No render-to-texture: off

- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 0
- TexWin pixel shader: off
- VRam size: 128 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: 65.0

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer effects: 2
- Framebuffer uploads: 1

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Mdec filter: on
- Screen filtering: off
- Shader effects: 0/1
- Flicker-fix border size: 0
- GF4/XP crash fix: off
- Game fixes: on [00001002]



and here is the one using my usual config



note - i had shader fullscreen smoothing turnt up too high my fault, but yea it runs at full speed

theres no way to use high res on the regular opengl plugin is their?

[Squall-Leonhart]

turn filtering down to 4 as well, 6 causes miscolouration on 2d textures

[producer2007]

ok i think i have found the perfect config for my situation, this looks better than i thought, def better than opengl2. battle swirls work fine, all effects ive sen so far r perfect............

Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.76
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce FX 5200/PCI/SSE2

Resolution/Color:
- 640x480 Fullscreen - NO desktop changing [32 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- B8G8R8A8
- Filtering: 6
- Hi-Res textures: 0
- VRam size: 128 MBytes

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: 65.0

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 3
- Framebuffer texture: 2
- Framebuffer access: 1
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: on
- Advanced blending: on

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- 15 bit FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: on
- Screen cushion: off
- Game fixes: on [00001003]


here r some screenshots using this set up

THE BIRD (cant spell that things name)


SHIVA


IFRIT


SIREN





if the settings i mentioned above can be tweaked to look even better please let me know, oh yea FSAA is set to 4x as well as AF 4x


thanks for all the help gettin this worked out

[Squall-Leonhart]

AHHHHHH that explains alot!

adjust AA down to 2x, i have found, anything higher can cause slowdowns.
lol, also the lightning bird is Quezacotl, i do believe its the Aztech god of lightening.. but might be wrong.

you can create a Nvidia profile to always have it set to 2x via the NVCP

[producer2007]

actually i got fsaa turnt up to 8x an af turnt on 4x now an im gettin perfect speeds, but when i do the af 8xs it slows down pretty bad

but the above config with 8x fsaa and af 4x gives me the best graphics with full fps

[Squall-Leonhart]

err. you sure you haven't got that mixed around... 4xAA and 8xAF? because as far as i know, AF has never caused a great deal of performance loss

if you really mean 8xAF is causing slow down i might need to look into that and see if i can increase performance further :\

anyhow, AA doesn't really effect any surfaces in PSX emulation due to how its drawn, so its usually best to keep it low or off.

[hushypushy]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

anyhow, AA doesn't really effect any surfaces in PSX emulation due to how its drawn, so its usually best to keep it low or off.

It really affects the edges of polygons; in FF8 that would be the characters, which are actually pretty detailed in this game.

I'd recommend 4xAA, smooth with less slowdowns. 8xAA looks sweet though

[Squall-Leonhart]

i've found that 2xAA is sometimes higher quality then 4xAA, due to being RGSS rather then OGSS

but... i must admit, the only time i really had a slowdown issue with AA was when i had norton firewall installed... i have no idea what happened there, but the firewall prevented it from getting to the first cut scene :|, very strange. though doesn't the fullscreen filter already handle edge smoothing :\ lol.

..i really have to get back to messing with my Emulator settings again :P

[producer2007]

notron always gave me problems, i got my vista machine an it came with norton internet security 07, come to find out the junk wasnt even compatible with vista yet lol...............

anyways i checked settings in NVIDIA control Panel an ur right i had em mixed up

heres a shot



every game ive tried usin this new config looks really good, way better than ogl2 with fullscreen smoothing

i remember reading somewhere that antialiasing and af didnt work in ePSXe, guess that info was wrong

[Squall-Leonhart]

well as hushy said above, it effects the edges of polygons, but not 2d textures.

i have my video card forced to use 16xAF (using a third party application) it really does work on FX cards.

[producer2007]

what about true 5.1 surround sound??? is there a plugin for this or am i stuck with the regular sound in epsxe............i barely hear anything coming from the rear speakers