Xenogears disc 2 problem

[Slimpickins934]

I've looked around in the forums and while there is a wealth of info about the game crash at Fei's dream sequence I didnt find anything about the one where you first fight Deus on disc 2. Ive treid playing it a few times but each time it crashes...it appears to happen when he does a signature move. Does anyone know if I can counteract this in some way or will this always happen?

[Ignis]

Thankfully he does that move at random, use save states every turn or every time you'll know his is coming up atleast, and reload immediately if he uses his signature. It works I've done it.

[Rockfire]

Its tricky, for this battle you have to use savestates in order to proceed. It is essential that you do not attack "Deus" until he uses his special move at least 3 times, for this guide to actually work. So no jumping the gun.

Remember its F1 to Save and F3 to Load a Savestate.

• Step One - OK its time to start the battle!
• Once the battle has begun, keep skipping moves until "Deus" does his "Special move"(halves everyones HP).
  
• Step Two - Savestate just after "Deus" does his "Special move" that halves everybody’s HP.
  
• Step Three - Just keep skipping moves until "Dues" does his special move once again. The game will freeze at this point(If it doesn't your one lucky batard).
• Step Four - When the game freezes, hit F3 and reload your savestate.

Repeat these 4 steps again until "Deus" has used his "Special move" at least 3 or 4 times. Once you have repeated the steps 3 times or 4 times, 5000/2500 damage will be required to kill him and win the battle.

And thats it congratulation on getting through the battle


Edit: I'm unsure if this affects 1.70, please pm me and tell me if does or doesn't.

Edit 2: I can confirm that 1.70 still has this problem, Thanks to KrossX for pm'ing me on this.

[hushypushy]

Yeahhhh I need to add that....if you shape up that post (meaning: use proper English and make it so that anyone, even idiots and/or non-native English speakers, can understand) I'll link to it in the guide.

[Rockfire]

Well I clean it up abit, changed a few thing's ... Is it better?

[hushypushy]

It looked better the first time! So it's true...you really can't type any better than that. Weird.

I was thinking about rewriting your original post because I figured you'd do it...the way you've edited it, it actually makes less sense than the original and I can't really figure it out

I want it to be as clear as possible. And from that description, I can't really figure out what I would do in that case.

So after the first halving attack, I save state. And then I just keep attacking..? And if he does that attack again I just load save state and...keep attacking? But I don't get this "see his special move" thing, and what do you mean by three times? And wait, I thought I was supposed to attack him, why does it say he heals if I do?

My point is that while it might make sense in my head, and the first one you wrote actually almost made sense in my head, for most people, they're not going to get that. If we have people visiting these forums who ask if their "Athalon [sic] 2400+" meets the requirements for the FAQ even after they've looked at it, we need an easier explanation on how to use a save state tactic for fighting a boss.

[Ignis]

I'll try to help you out a bit but my grammar sucks too.

The first fight with Deus

Use savestates, F1 to save and F3 to load.

Savestate just after Deus halves everybody’s including himself’s HP. The emulator will crash the second time he does this. So when it freezes, reload your savestate, so that you can view the attack again.

After 3 time's (That's if you didn't attack him, because he heals if you do). You must hit 5000 damage to kill him<=== I think this parts sorta needless, if they need to know how to kill him they can just go to gamefaqs. I for one wouldn't want a boss strategy spoiled for me.

Edit: By the way that was just an attempted clean up of what he says.

I still say just use F1 to save during every one of your characters turns and reload with F3 when the game freezes.

[Rockfire]

Thanks for your advice, if it needs more changes let me know.


Edit: Ignis from my experiences and I've play it 3 time's now, it only freezes when he did his special move

[Ignis]

It does look better just a few things though.


(1)Use savestate F1 to save and F3 to load.

(2)Savestate(F1) just after Deus halves everybody’s including him self’s HP, It will crash the second time he dose this
Its spelled does and you need a period after this. Also himself is one word I believe, and lowercase the "I" in it.

(3)When it freezes, reload your savestate(F3).
You'll be able to see his special move one more time, Repeat this again until . He's dead
Just dop the period after until, lower case the "H" in he's and lowercase the "R" in repeat.

[Rockfire]

Yeah edited it. Thanks keep'em coming!

Edit: changed some more

[Ignis]

Originally Posted by Rockfire

Edit: Ignis from my experiences and I've play it 3 time's now, it only freezes when he did his special move

You're probably right, its just that given the attention span I think most of these kids have I try to only tell them what they need to know.

[hushypushy]

I changed dose to does because it was bothering me, but yeah, you're in there...

In Xenogears, at the first fight with Deus on disc 2, it keeps crashing.

• This is one time when you have to use save states--check out Rockfire's writeup on how to finish the battle and if you have any other questions, send him a PM.

[Rockfire]

Oh i didn't see the that