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Old October 24th, 2006   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone know exactly where to get roms from? Im not playing illegally I do own all the ff's however my psx isnnt working and I found this to be an alternative. The problem is I cannot find any roms for it... Any suggestions?
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Old October 24th, 2006   #3 (permalink)
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no need to (illegally) download when you can make your own ISO which is faster, easier, and more secure.
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Is it illegal to download a rom / iso if you own the game, yet the discs are broken? hmm...a question. Probably still illegal; It's kinda like saying if you bought a PSP and stole another one, it'd be fine.

But then again it's different as in if I downloaded it...I had already payed my cash for the real thing; it's just broken..

Troubling.

Anyways, buddy, nice excuse at asking for ROMS, but they don't exist for the PSX...cause they are ISO's and such.

Plus I doubt if you could configure the ePSXE and figure out how to post here for help, you would know how to rip an iso. But then again, you did make this post...so maybe not.

I dunno why I just typed that, sorry.
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Old October 25th, 2006   #5 (permalink)
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Well there is a lot of controversy as different countries have different legislation. We cannot possibly keep track and maintain exceptions for every law and every local country, therefore we decide to say on the safe side and say that no downloading is allowed, no matter how many copies you already own. And besides, why do that when you can just make an ISO out of your own game?

And you are confusing the ability to configure an emulator with the ability to make an ISO. They are not mutually inclusive, nor mutually exclusive. They are separate abilities, you can easily know how to do one and not the other.
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Old October 25th, 2006   #6 (permalink)
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Oh I know; I was just geting away with myself, lol, just thinking allowed, and not really "thinking" it through is all.

I just ment if say you bought....

Final Fantasy VII and your disc's were broke

and you downloaded VII burned to discs and used them...

Well, you already payed for the game and the discs are broke...but you DID pay...so would downloading another copy REALLY be stealing? Now I know the chances of such a situation are rare, but I'm puting it in retrospect.

would it be stealing to download a game you already own; just the disc's are broken and it's not really hurting since you already paid your due's to the company. By a moral definition, it really should NOT be. Since it is software, and not really a matieral product...downloading without having bought does hurt the company, but if you have already purchased one...as long as it's just for home use? same as a backup really..

But on a real life scale, it's stealing, even though we payed for it, and downloading it suffers them no penalty but us paying for something we already payed for.

Guess the moral of it all is: Don't break the product in the first place.

It's late and I just wanted to throw a few arguments out there. Seems I actually argue better when I'm half-asleep...how odd.
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How about this counter-argument: you bought the license to one copy of that FF7, and when you destroyed or sold or lost the game, you also destroyed or lost or sold your copyright?

Downloading with already owning it doesn't hurt the company, after all, you already have your own. But how are you supposed to differentiate between owning and not owning it? There is no technology to allow a real life verification of ownership.

PS. This is an argument? Who is arguing with who?
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Uh, I ment, a moral argument kinda, you get it?

It's true; you couldn't verify you owned a copy, but I was just saying in such a situation it truely wouldn't be theft or illegal by any moral definitions...

I understand that if I bought FF7 for the PSX and then downloaded the PC version...THAT is still stealing, cause it's a different media...

But if I bought FF7, say, lost a disc, and downloaded an ISO for that disc and used it...it's illegal by the law, but by all moral standards I really didn't commit any crime is all, lol.

I'm just saying that ISO' don't exsist to be downloaded purely for illegal purposes. Some games like Lineage II allow the full client download(Although that's a MMORPG, and, well, obviously totally different)

A verification system by CD key's alone would maybe be effective; generators wouldn't work, ya know? only real CD keys purchased...

Kinda like they did with the SIMS along time ago.

It's just really kinda a question that bugs me...is all. Cause if you own an original copy downloading the ISO should really not be illegal...

As say, my Legend of Dragoon discs are missing, save for two of them(=/)

And I want to download the two other disc's and I burn them.

Textbook would say I just commited a crime; although I payed originaly for the software, I just lost it, and was, in a sense, just geting a backup and not hurting the company.

Plus, with today's internet, who can honestly say they havn't indulged in a little online piracy...:P

http://www.hentaigroup.com/flash/pirate.htm

Funny, funny thing. lol.

It's just really a debate; since it's software and not actually a material item, it's not theft, since I payed for the software once and it is still exclusively to me(being used that is) I have not hurt the company; nor condoned the distribution of illegal downloads.

hehe.
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Hahahahha, great one!! I definitely need to keep it, as a gift for the next warez requesters.

I was like totally folded in half cuz of that one...
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haha, let's not get into moral compasses here. There is absolutely no way to standardize what is correct morally, for you and I could both believe very different things and still be correct.

Honestly, even if NGEmu said "sure whatever" on the warez policy, I'd still be strict about that stuff---PSX emulators are sensitive, why do you think we tell people to remake their own ISOs and play off the CD? You get some mystery-sourced PSX download (usually on MDS/MDF....idiots) and you don't know what you're playing.
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