ff9 dali problem!

cloudsBro · July 16th, 2005

i think all final fantasy 9 players know the dali problem when the game crashes.
but ive been wondering why does epsxe 152 allow the scene to play but epsxe 160 doesnt? it is some coding errors when altering the 1.5.2 coding or has the new code caused problems?

**n_w95482** · July 16th, 2005

I believe what happened with 1.6.0 is that some aspect of the timing code got screwed up and it happened to mess with FF9

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cloudsBro · July 16th, 2005

what does this 'timing code' do exactly. is it something to do with fmv playback?

_mr_m_ · July 17th, 2005

can i go out on a whim and *guess* that it has something to do with how the emulator draws 3D objects over the FMVs?
thats what it seems to be every time i get a freeze-up.

perhaps the emulator doesnt get the 3D objects rendered in a timely enough fasion to be displayed over the FMV and it hangs the emulator?

fireblaster_lyz · July 17th, 2005

Nope. You are wrong.
It apparantly does not render 3D objects during MDECs in FF9 during the Dali FMV.
If you said that's what it seems to be every time i get a freeze-up, please state games that you encouter this problem.

The timing problem occurs due to coding, in which I also cannot explain. ePSXe is a complicated program to begin with. I suggest instead of questioning around, just accept it.

**I-Chan** · July 17th, 2005

But indeed the problem usually happens when the 3D models are integrated with FMV's. Not only the ones that crash, but other videos show weird colours and random crap when something like that happens. Anyway, the fact is that it works in 1.5.2 and not in 1.6.0, so you'll have to use the former in order to play FF games.

_mr_m_ · July 18th, 2005

Quote:

Nope. You are wrong.
It apparantly does not render 3D objects during MDECs in FF9 during the Dali FMV.
If you said that's what it seems to be every time i get a freeze-up, please state games that you encouter this problem.

The timing problem occurs due to coding, in which I also cannot explain. ePSXe is a complicated program to begin with. I suggest instead of questioning around, just accept it.

*clears throat*
notice i was merely going out on a whim and guessing.

if i am not mistaken, there are 3D objects being overlayed select FMVs (Dali is the most frequently questioned)
i DO accept the fact that i use 1.5.2 to play ff9.
and the programmers who got ePSXe to the point it is at today have done a damn fine job.

July 16th, 2005	#1 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	ff9 dali problem! i think all final fantasy 9 players know the dali problem when the game crashes. but ive been wondering why does epsxe 152 allow the scene to play but epsxe 160 doesnt? it is some coding errors when altering the 1.5.2 coding or has the new code caused problems?

July 16th, 2005	#2 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	I believe what happened with 1.6.0 is that some aspect of the timing code got screwed up and it happened to mess with FF9 . __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

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fireblaster_lyz A Blast from the Past... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,751	Nope. You are wrong. It apparantly does not render 3D objects during MDECs in FF9 during the Dali FMV. If you said that's what it seems to be every time i get a freeze-up, please state games that you encouter this problem. The timing problem occurs due to coding, in which I also cannot explain. ePSXe is a complicated program to begin with. I suggest instead of questioning around, just accept it. __________________ Regards, fireblaster_lyz Plugin(s) Configuration: ePSXe/PSXeven/SSSPSX Pete's OpenGL GPU v2.7 \| Eternal SPU v1.41 \| P.E.O.p.S CDR Plugin Plugin(s) Links: Pete's Bernert Lewpy Configuration Guides: Troubleshooting FAQ (READ ME FIRST) Kane General Configuration Guide (in Japanese) Click here. (Dumping BIOS, Everything) "Because i want my computer to stay a computer. I dont want to be just a psx. "

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I-Chan Ex Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Spain Posts: 3,085	But indeed the problem usually happens when the 3D models are integrated with FMV's. Not only the ones that crash, but other videos show weird colours and random crap when something like that happens. Anyway, the fact is that it works in 1.5.2 and not in 1.6.0, so you'll have to use the former in order to play FF games. __________________ "I'm living in a dream I can't wake from" Core 2 Duo 6600 FSB 1066 \| 2048 MB DDR2 PC2 6400 800 MHZ \| NVIDIA 8800 GTS \| Sound Blaster Audigy 4 \| Seagate Barracuda 250GB SATAII+WD Caviar 250GB \| Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" Widescreen

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July 16th, 2005	#3 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	what does this 'timing code' do exactly. is it something to do with fmv playback?

July 17th, 2005	#4 (permalink)
_mr_m_ pwned. Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Loop, St. Louis, MO Posts: 216	can i go out on a whim and guess that it has something to do with how the emulator draws 3D objects over the FMVs? thats what it seems to be every time i get a freeze-up. perhaps the emulator doesnt get the 3D objects rendered in a timely enough fasion to be displayed over the FMV and it hangs the emulator?