ff7 slow start

cloudsBro · July 9th, 2005

apart from soft gpu, i have a problem with the starting of ff7. the screen is slow when the piracy writing is fading in and out. And it seems that the screen hangs at the sony computer entertainment europe screen. im running a ff7 pal cd disc 1. ???

**n_w95482** · July 9th, 2005

fireblaster_lyz · July 9th, 2005

I am sure its a screen from the warez group.
FF7 starts off instantly with 'Squaresoft Presents'

Besides, who uses the -slowboot?

**n_w95482** · July 9th, 2005

Well, the PAL version of the game could be different and I can't check it myself so I want to make sure. As for -slowboot, I use it, but I don't really see how it relates to the thread.

fireblaster_lyz · July 9th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by clouds bro

And it seems that the screen hangs at the sony computer entertainment europe screen.

Wait a second...hangs there?
You tried running off a CD?

**hushypushy** · July 9th, 2005

want to screenshot that piracy screen maybe? i've never seen it myself.

Jordi_Overlord · July 9th, 2005

What happens from this thread of you?
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63093

frostcircus · July 9th, 2005

I'm guessing he means the generic screen with aqua text saying that piracy costs consumers, developers and so on. The screen's on all PAL games (but it doesn't always appear during emulation - I haven't quite figured out what dictates whether it does or not), and I remember the exact thing happened when I tried to play an emulated FF7. I'm pretty sure the SCEE and Squaresoft logos faded slower than on a real PSX, too. I get a similar thing when viewing the mission log or backstory on Metal Gear Solid... kinda weird.

cloudsBro · July 9th, 2005

NO NOT PLAYING COPIED GAME. original final fantasy 7 pal cd sces-00867. its the screen that says piracy not allowed.
the screen stays on the SCEE screen far longer than it shud. bout 1-2 minutes.

delirium666 · July 9th, 2005

Try this:

Use Pete's OpenGL plugin. Start the game. When running press Del on numpad then 1 (End). This takes the FPS limit off. When past the piracy screen press 1 (End) twice. This put the FPS back on.

Hope it works.

frostcircus · July 9th, 2005

Here's a pic of that screen in case it really doesn't appear on NTSC consoles, and anyone is curious:

And I was wrong, the fade is extremely slow on the original console version, I remember always noticing that. Don't know how it slipped my mind before.

On another note, I've finally got this game running smoothly, with no music slowdown/speed up ever (I'm a musician, and that sort of thing bugs me to an extent that I couldn't even play the game with it like that).

Though I'm running from an ISO made from my old copy of FF7 (I can't remember where I put my new one). I'll be interested to see if I get the Forgotten Capital crash that I it used to give me on my PSX (yes, the same one everybody else has).

**hushypushy** · July 9th, 2005

just dont use save states right before there i suppose it should work....i never got that crash, and ive helped plenty of people past that area....

cloudsBro · July 9th, 2005

delirium666.
yes it speeds the first screen up but the second SCEE remains slow. plus opengl is not working with my system as it should for some reason.

frostcircus · July 9th, 2005

Even on my current setup the SCEE screen is extremely slow. The framerate for some reason goes down to 30FPS. I'm pretty sure it was the same on a real PSX... I could test on my PS2, I suppose.

cloudsBro · July 9th, 2005

no no. on psone the SCEE screen switching at the same speed as the piracy screen.
By the way, my fps on SCEE screen goes down to 16 fps. damn.

delirium666 · July 9th, 2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by clouds bro

delirium666.
yes it speeds the first screen up but the second SCEE remains slow. plus opengl is not working with my system as it should for some reason.

I assume you're switching the FPS limit on at the 'new game - continue' screen, not straight after the piracy screen. If not, do so.

cloudsBro · July 10th, 2005

no i am doing it ryt, nothing going.
however i've finally got the perfect settings by using soft gpu.
Plugin: P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver 1.1.17
Author: Pete Bernert and the P.E.Op.S. team

Resolution/Color:
- 800x600 Window mode
Stretch mode: 0
Dither mode: 0

Framerate:
- FPS limit: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Misc:
- Scanlines: disabled
- Game fixes: on [00000300]

i get no slowdowns (except minor ones when in battle mode) and the graphics are rough. i really wud like better graphics

**n_w95482** · July 11th, 2005

Post your computer's specifications and we'll suggest plugins and settings for them. Have you tried updating your video card and chipset drivers?

cloudsBro · July 12th, 2005

windows 98se
128mb ram
intel pentium 3 600mhz
directx 9.0

videocard
msi ms8808(tnt2 m64)
16mb
optimal refresh rate(1024*768)
nvdisp.drv

ive tried updating the drivers but nothing happened.

frostcircus · July 12th, 2005

Yowch. I'd be pretty grateful that it's running at all.

July 9th, 2005	#1 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	ff7 slow start apart from soft gpu, i have a problem with the starting of ff7. the screen is slow when the piracy writing is fading in and out. And it seems that the screen hangs at the sony computer entertainment europe screen. im running a ff7 pal cd disc 1. ???

July 9th, 2005	#2 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	What is this "piracy writing" you're talking about? Is it some "Copyright 1997 Squaresoft/SCEE, copying other than for personal backup is prohibited" thing or is it a screen from a warez group? __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

July 9th, 2005	#3 (permalink)
fireblaster_lyz A Blast from the Past... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,751	I am sure its a screen from the warez group. FF7 starts off instantly with 'Squaresoft Presents' Besides, who uses the -slowboot? __________________ Regards, fireblaster_lyz Plugin(s) Configuration: ePSXe/PSXeven/SSSPSX Pete's OpenGL GPU v2.7 \| Eternal SPU v1.41 \| P.E.O.p.S CDR Plugin Plugin(s) Links: Pete's Bernert Lewpy Configuration Guides: Troubleshooting FAQ (READ ME FIRST) Kane General Configuration Guide (in Japanese) Click here. (Dumping BIOS, Everything) "Because i want my computer to stay a computer. I dont want to be just a psx. "

July 9th, 2005	#4 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	Well, the PAL version of the game could be different and I can't check it myself so I want to make sure. As for -slowboot, I use it, but I don't really see how it relates to the thread. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

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hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	want to screenshot that piracy screen maybe? i've never seen it myself. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

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July 9th, 2005	#8 (permalink)
frostcircus (instrumental) Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 54	I'm guessing he means the generic screen with aqua text saying that piracy costs consumers, developers and so on. The screen's on all PAL games (but it doesn't always appear during emulation - I haven't quite figured out what dictates whether it does or not), and I remember the exact thing happened when I tried to play an emulated FF7. I'm pretty sure the SCEE and Squaresoft logos faded slower than on a real PSX, too. I get a similar thing when viewing the mission log or backstory on Metal Gear Solid... kinda weird.

July 9th, 2005	#9 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	NO NOT PLAYING COPIED GAME. original final fantasy 7 pal cd sces-00867. its the screen that says piracy not allowed. the screen stays on the SCEE screen far longer than it shud. bout 1-2 minutes.

July 9th, 2005	#10 (permalink)
delirium666 The Guitar Zero Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 20	Try this: Use Pete's OpenGL plugin. Start the game. When running press Del on numpad then 1 (End). This takes the FPS limit off. When past the piracy screen press 1 (End) twice. This put the FPS back on. Hope it works.

July 9th, 2005	#11 (permalink)
frostcircus (instrumental) Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 54	Here's a pic of that screen in case it really doesn't appear on NTSC consoles, and anyone is curious: And I was wrong, the fade is extremely slow on the original console version, I remember always noticing that. Don't know how it slipped my mind before. On another note, I've finally got this game running smoothly, with no music slowdown/speed up ever (I'm a musician, and that sort of thing bugs me to an extent that I couldn't even play the game with it like that). Though I'm running from an ISO made from my old copy of FF7 (I can't remember where I put my new one). I'll be interested to see if I get the Forgotten Capital crash that I it used to give me on my PSX (yes, the same one everybody else has).

July 9th, 2005	#12 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	just dont use save states right before there i suppose it should work....i never got that crash, and ive helped plenty of people past that area.... __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

July 9th, 2005	#13 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	delirium666. yes it speeds the first screen up but the second SCEE remains slow. plus opengl is not working with my system as it should for some reason.

July 9th, 2005	#14 (permalink)
frostcircus (instrumental) Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 54	Even on my current setup the SCEE screen is extremely slow. The framerate for some reason goes down to 30FPS. I'm pretty sure it was the same on a real PSX... I could test on my PS2, I suppose.

July 9th, 2005	#15 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	no no. on psone the SCEE screen switching at the same speed as the piracy screen. By the way, my fps on SCEE screen goes down to 16 fps. damn.

July 10th, 2005	#17 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	no i am doing it ryt, nothing going. however i've finally got the perfect settings by using soft gpu. Plugin: P.E.Op.S. Soft Driver 1.1.17 Author: Pete Bernert and the P.E.Op.S. team Resolution/Color: - 800x600 Window mode Stretch mode: 0 Dither mode: 0 Framerate: - FPS limit: on - Frame skipping: off - FPS limit: Auto Misc: - Scanlines: disabled - Game fixes: on [00000300] i get no slowdowns (except minor ones when in battle mode) and the graphics are rough. i really wud like better graphics

July 11th, 2005	#18 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	Post your computer's specifications and we'll suggest plugins and settings for them. Have you tried updating your video card and chipset drivers? __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

July 12th, 2005	#19 (permalink)
cloudsBro Argh my eyes, my eyes!?!? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: uk Posts: 1,559	windows 98se 128mb ram intel pentium 3 600mhz directx 9.0 videocard msi ms8808(tnt2 m64) 16mb optimal refresh rate(1024*768) nvdisp.drv ive tried updating the drivers but nothing happened.

July 12th, 2005	#20 (permalink)
frostcircus (instrumental) Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 54	Yowch. I'd be pretty grateful that it's running at all.

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