Ghost in the Shell

EdZ · July 31st, 2004

I'm having a problem with Ghost in the Shell (PAL version).
When trying to run the game, it plays amazingly sluggishly, even with EVERYTHING turned down (i.e. 640x480 resolution, 16-bit, no filtering, sound off, etc). Turning frameskip on and off affects the movies in the game (i.e. they play too fast without it on, and normal speed with it on) but this has no effect on the game itself. Is there something else I need to set, or is Ghost in the Shell just far too demanding a game (which I doubt). Other games run fine.

System specs:

Duron 1.1ghz
GeForce FX 5600 256mb DDR
512mb DDR SDRAM

**n_w95482** · July 31st, 2004

Post your plugin settings. If the movies run too fast without frameskip on then you probably don't have the frame limiter turned on. Either set it to 50 (because it's a PAL game) or set it to Auto.

EdZ · August 1st, 2004

No, I got the movies working fine, there's no problem there. It's the game itself I need help getting working.

**n_w95482** · August 1st, 2004

As I said before, post your plugin configuration

. Without that we can't help you very well.

**hushypushy** · August 1st, 2004

update your drivers for the 5600. go to www.nvidia.com and pick up the latest ones there. install those, reboot, and try it.

if you are playing off a CD, try making an ISO out of it, that will eliminate poor CD plugin configuration and/or a slow CD-ROM drive.

then, use the OpenGL2 plugin, and turn off AA and AF. just press the "nice" preset and you should be on your way.

EdZ · August 1st, 2004

I have the latest drivers, I'm using an ISO, I'm using the OpenGL2 plugin, and AA and AF is turned off.

Plugin settings:

**Kane** · August 1st, 2004

Isn't there some horrible FB uploads fix for GitS?

**hushypushy** · August 1st, 2004

have you tried it with Peops soft plugin? maybe the hardware plugins just dont like this game

EdZ · August 1st, 2004

I'll give the soft plugin a go.

::EDIT:: The soft plugin works fine. I wonder why the GPU plugin doesn't run as well, even though it utilises a potentially higher amount of graphics processing power?

**Kane** · August 1st, 2004

It's because (from what I remember from plugin docs) GitS uses a horrible FB mode or texture windows or something. PC H/W graphics is quite different to PSX graphics, so many workarounds have to be in place to get it to work correctly. A software plugin isn't concerned about that because it's purely done by the CPU.

EdZ · August 2nd, 2004

Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks for your help!

July 31st, 2004	#1 (permalink)
EdZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10	Ghost in the Shell I'm having a problem with Ghost in the Shell (PAL version). When trying to run the game, it plays amazingly sluggishly, even with EVERYTHING turned down (i.e. 640x480 resolution, 16-bit, no filtering, sound off, etc). Turning frameskip on and off affects the movies in the game (i.e. they play too fast without it on, and normal speed with it on) but this has no effect on the game itself. Is there something else I need to set, or is Ghost in the Shell just far too demanding a game (which I doubt). Other games run fine. System specs: Duron 1.1ghz GeForce FX 5600 256mb DDR 512mb DDR SDRAM

July 31st, 2004	#2 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	Post your plugin settings. If the movies run too fast without frameskip on then you probably don't have the frame limiter turned on. Either set it to 50 (because it's a PAL game) or set it to Auto. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

August 1st, 2004	#4 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	As I said before, post your plugin configuration . Without that we can't help you very well. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

August 1st, 2004	#5 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	update your drivers for the 5600. go to www.nvidia.com and pick up the latest ones there. install those, reboot, and try it. if you are playing off a CD, try making an ISO out of it, that will eliminate poor CD plugin configuration and/or a slow CD-ROM drive. then, use the OpenGL2 plugin, and turn off AA and AF. just press the "nice" preset and you should be on your way. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

August 1st, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Isn't there some horrible FB uploads fix for GitS? __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

August 1st, 2004	#3 (permalink)
EdZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10	No, I got the movies working fine, there's no problem there. It's the game itself I need help getting working.

August 1st, 2004	#6 (permalink)
EdZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10	I have the latest drivers, I'm using an ISO, I'm using the OpenGL2 plugin, and AA and AF is turned off. Plugin settings:

August 1st, 2004	#8 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	have you tried it with Peops soft plugin? maybe the hardware plugins just dont like this game __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

August 1st, 2004	#9 (permalink)
EdZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10	I'll give the soft plugin a go. ::EDIT:: The soft plugin works fine. I wonder why the GPU plugin doesn't run as well, even though it utilises a potentially higher amount of graphics processing power? Last edited by EdZ; August 1st, 2004 at 19:55.

August 1st, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	It's because (from what I remember from plugin docs) GitS uses a horrible FB mode or texture windows or something. PC H/W graphics is quite different to PSX graphics, so many workarounds have to be in place to get it to work correctly. A software plugin isn't concerned about that because it's purely done by the CPU. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

August 2nd, 2004	#11 (permalink)
EdZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UK Posts: 10	Ah, that makes sense now. Thanks for your help!

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