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Old April 11th, 2004   #1 (permalink)
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Question Playstion disk on pc cd drive?

Hello! I just downloaded epsxe after playing snes games on my comp.
I searched for a psx emulator just for the sole purpose of playing Star Ocean second story. Now I finally found one (epsxe.. duh)
I currently have no PSX disks whatsoever, but I think i heard somewhere that it is impossible to play playstaion games on a pc because the PS disk has some protection on it (like a black coating, at least in the US). Is this true? and if it is how do you guys go around it? :bounce:
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Edit: sorry if this is on the wrong forum.
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You can use the original or burnt backups of the original playstation cds in your cd drive.
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You can use the original or burnt backups of the original playstation cds in your cd drive.

Thanks for the reply. So your saying my pc cd-drive can read through the black coating?
One more question: Can i buy burnt backups of the original?
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Yep the pc's cd rom can read the black bottom playstation cds. And no you can't buy copied backups of the games legally.
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Geez, people. Do you read the rules here? This is on a one way ticket to being closed.
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I haven't said anything that has to anything with warez.
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Ooops... must have said something or asked something wrong...
sorry, heading for the rules.
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You did nothing wrong. Just asked if he could use legally bought PSX games, as they are the only ones with the black coating on it. You'll have no problems playing them (and if there's any, read tha manuals, the readmes, and ask here ), and yes, you can legally make your own backup copy, as long as you don't distribute it.
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the black coating means nothing AFAIK. hmm...IIRC it's just a "tougher" layer. look at your CD-Rs; i've had clear, blue, and gold linings on those before. the layer is just for protection (behind the CD graphic) so it's harder to scratch the disc. most, if not all, CD-ROM drives can read PSX games.

btw, i usually copy the game first and play it on my PC, or just make an ISO. saves me from screwing up the original disc
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Actually, you can buy black CD-Rs as well(bottom polycarbonate layer = black. It should be noted you can also buy many other colors). There's no significance to the color at all. This is just a Polycarbonate layer which contain tiny grooves which code for the data(it's a tad different on a CD-R, but if you want to know more you can look it up on the 'net). Regardless of the color, it still codes for the same stuff. Obviously light must be able to pass through it, or else the playstation's (weak) laser would not be able to read it either. Most likely it was just something Sony did so that people could easily identify Playstation games. If you'll notice the bottoms of PS2 CD-Rom games are blue. This also doesn't mean anything and was most likely just a method Sony used to distinguish their PS2 games from the PSX games.

hushypushy: I'm not sure what you mean when you say "linings", but are you by chance talking about the reflective layer of a CD-R? This would mean Cyanine = Blue, Phthalocyanine = Gold/Clear. Or do you mean the actual polycarbonate layer of the disc? I would normally assume you mean the polycarbonate layer, but because of the colors you mentioned I'm a little curious.
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Factory made CD's and DVD's are different from CDR's and CDRW's. Factpry made (ie: playstation) are stamped while CDR's use dye to recongnize data being burned onto it. Just wanted to clarify that.

Anyways Sony did that to distinguise that it is a playstation disc and so people would know if they were getting a pirated disc. Later on though, companies made Black CDR's which made it easier for people to fake the piracy issue.

Playstation 2 CD's are lue while PS2 DVD's are silver. It is really all just to be different and still has to do with trying to prevent piracy. If you ever looked at the botton of a Playstati9on 2 DVD you will see that there is a PS logo imprinted on the bottom in two different places.

Nobody said anything illegal Modem1, so this thread won't get closed. I think this is a good thread to help people understand more.

(also my Laptop Drive wouldn't read PSX discs) :/
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As far as I know, the only difference between the colors of CD-R/RW bottoms is that some CD burner drives may not be able read one type of color or another (this is rare though for newer drives). I also heard that PS1 discs being black bottomed WAS to prevent piracy, but i always thought (and heard) that the reason was the black coating made burners unable to read it, as opposed to the reason that black CD-Rs weren't available to consumers initially, so seing a NONblack CD-R would have meant that it was a pirated copy.

Regardless of which reasons were it for being black, none of it ended up working
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I think the different colors (green, gold, blue, etc.) indicate which dye chemical was used with the CD-R. I don't know if it applies to the black ones though.
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