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Old January 27th, 2007   #61 (permalink)
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yes and my point is a majority of people wont be overclocking, so im using standard clocks as a base for my table, overclocking does not count.
I'm mean that I can vouch that Athlon 64 Single Core FXs (2.6-2.8 when you buy them) can run the emulator at near full speeds, and better than some of the X2s that you put in the fast catagory. I'm just asking you to move those up for the noobs who read this.
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Old January 27th, 2007   #62 (permalink)
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Actually in PCSX2 dual core CPUs have such advantage so even a single core AMD 2.8GHz (FX57) performs about equal to a 2GHz dual core (X2 3800+). Dual core mode offers in avg depending on game around ~45% performance boost for me, 2.8 / 2.0 = 1.4 ,so even the 40% higher clock speed doesn't quite cut it. I could notice the same when comparing my previous A64 3700+ I was running at 2.7GHz and even at stock speed 1.8GHz this Opteron 165 performed about same with dual core mode and MTGS enabled as the 3700+ @ 2.7GHz. In PC games and applications it's a completely different story though. It also performs 55~60% better at overclocked speed 2.8GHz.

But I must agree that you can get a very good FPS rate in quite a lot of games with a single core A64 at 2.6GHz+ but in PCSX2 comparing dual cores with single cores, the dual core CPUs have a great advantage.
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What does exclusing mean?
Do u mean excluding?

And i believe the Geforce 6150 should work, as if memory serves me right, it supports Shader Model 3
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Fixed the spelling mistake and changes 6100 to 61X0.
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Not sure if this is totally relevant to the topic:

While I understand that PCSX2 can run well on dual core processors, meaning dual core equipped notebooks would not be left out, it does cause the CPU to run really hot. For instance, CoreTemp registers up to 61 degrees celsius on my desktop Core 2, which is both overclocked and cooled by a Scythe Mine heatsink, when programs like Prime95 (2 instances on 2 cores) or PCSX2 are running.

On a Core 2 Duo equipped notebook though, Prime95 (1 instance on 1 core ONLY) shoots the temperature all the way to 70 degrees celsius. So my question would be whether there might be any adverse effects to running PCSX2 (MTGS and Dual Core enabled) on a dual core notebook in the long run? If so, might it be necessary to place a warning in the initial processor post?

EDIT: Obviously, that single instance Prime95 test has scared me off trying PCSX2 on a notebook, since the likelihood is high that the temperature could easily soar beyond 70 degrees when both cores are stressed simultaneously.
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CoreTemp registers up to 61 degrees celsius on my desktop Core 2
Just so you know im fairly sure core 2's temp threshold ends at 60 (or so I have read multi times on multi sources as well as plot telling me this) you could be doing damage to your cpu running at that temp. On full-load mine runs at 49/50 @ 3.1ghz.

Make sure your case is well ventilated and that you put your heatsink on right (not too much, too little thermal paste, etc) Also check the heatsink for dust build up. Also did you burn your heatsink in? Do you have too much voltage going to your cpu? If I was you I would be scared at 61. What are you running it at, Im just wondering how you got temps that high, even on the stock heatsink/cooler at 3.1ghz I was only getting around 58/59 on full load.
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I think that 60 degree threshold refers to what the motherboard BIOS reads. (The maximum CPU temperature I get in that respect would be in the range of 42-45) I did alot of reading up in various overclocking forums before deciding on a safe temperature range.

The 61 I obtained was direct from Intel's on-die sensor, meaning that any reading there would be around 10-15 degrees higher than what is indicated in BIOS temperature, so it's quite safe actually. Besides, if Core 2's threshold was 60 degrees on-die, then I think those of us living in tropical climates would be pretty much doomed. Especially those of us with notebooks, where Core 2 loads up to 70 degrees on-die, but is still below 60 in terms of BIOS temperature.
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8800gtx card and core2duo e6600 or 7600gtx and better core??

whats better for the pc to run this emu
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e6600 overclocked and 8800gtx xxx *yes the xxx version* should be more than enough for full speed in pcsx2.
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You got it labeled right but I'll confirm the Athlon 64 x2 and the Turion 64 x2. I get near identical fps on FFX (30-45) with the Athlon being 1-2 frames more.
Athlon 64 x2 4200+ @2.2
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I'm going to have to take this back because I upgraded my desktop gfx and now get 55-70fps with a 7600gt and no slowdown with 4xAA. I had believed that the cpu on both my laptop and desktop were the bottleneck due to the cpu usage being 100% on both. But it appears that at least on my desktop that the slowdown was the gfx (ATI x200 integrated).
So I cannot confirm that my previous statement is accurate because my laptop gfx might be the bottleneck also.
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I think that 60 degree threshold refers to what the motherboard BIOS reads. (The maximum CPU temperature I get in that respect would be in the range of 42-45) I did alot of reading up in various overclocking forums before deciding on a safe temperature range.

The 61 I obtained was direct from Intel's on-die sensor, meaning that any reading there would be around 10-15 degrees higher than what is indicated in BIOS temperature, so it's quite safe actually. Besides, if Core 2's threshold was 60 degrees on-die, then I think those of us living in tropical climates would be pretty much doomed. Especially those of us with notebooks, where Core 2 loads up to 70 degrees on-die, but is still below 60 in terms of BIOS temperature.
I have a notebook myself, and I wouldn't recommend using applications that steal too many CPU cycles for themselves for long periods with it (inc. PCSX2). PCSX2 will act very much like a 3DMark app and put the notebook at full load for however long you keep a game running. It's very easy to overheat a notebook like this, since you do not have a large HSF and additional fans to dissipate all that extra heat like you would in a well-cooled desktop. If you are going to use a notebook, then plug it in and make sure it is on a hard surface with good ventilation, and don't play PCSX2 for too long with it.
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It's very easy to overheat a laptop like this, since you do not have a large HSF and additional fans to dissipate all that extra heat like you would in a well-cooled desktop.
While it is true that it is easy to overheat a laptop, you can certainly take precautions. Make sure your fan is completely free (not blocked - in open air), and being in a well ventilated area helps a great deal. If you're in a 18 degrees Celsius room, with a fan going to ensure good ventilation, you're a lot less likely to burn your laptop out than if you're in a 27 degree stuffy dead air room.

When I benched my laptop I went outside in -30 degrrees celsius (I live in canada we get some really cold days) and overclocked my graphics card to 580/475 MHz stable. There was a bit of a windchill as well so even after I ran 3dmark05 (and got a score higher than in the sig - that's a room temp score down there) it was really cold (like 20 degrees celcius)

Also, if you are doing intense gaming with a laptop, just make sure you note the heat. If your hand is burning whilst touching the bottom you should probably give your computer a bit of a break. If it's warm to the touch but not hot it's probably okay.
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hi folks i want to now waht better intl core 2 duo or intl core 2 extreme
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and waht better geforce 6800 or geforce 6600 for pcsx2
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hi folks i want to now waht better intl core 2 duo or intl core 2 extreme
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i tried pcsx2 on my uncle's PC:

i can confirm:
CPU: Athlon XP 1700+ (1,4GHZ)
GFX: XGI Volari V3 (never heard before)

Pcsx2 0.9.2 TLB, all recompilers enabled, GSDX9 - NonSSE2: PS1.1

it works ^^
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hmm, sounds like a Graphics design card, rather than your normal run-of-the-mill card.

ill add it anyway ;p

btw, does that card work with zerogs or just gsdx9?
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