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Old November 8th, 2006   #21 (permalink)
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nice reviews! maybe DX10 will boost up little FPS
Yes, especially from the drastically reduced instruction counts.
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It is always good to know the truth, painful in some cases (i still have a Geforce FX5700) but good. That should dissipate some doubts about "Why my games are running slower if I have the same CPU that (other guy)?".

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It is always good to know the truth, painful in some cases (i still have a Geforce FX5700) but good. That should dissipate some doubts about "Why my games are running slower if I have the same CPU that (other guy)?".

Excellent contribution, my thanks and respects.
Yup that was exactly one of my main intensions with this review as me and probably most other people didn't think performance could be this different among different graphic cards in PCSX2, and I've thought it was some sort of bug in windows or something when some people with faster CPUs didn't get that great speed in some games. Would be really interesting to have a Nvidia FX serie card tested as well as apart from being rather slow since start by today's standards it also has a poor pixelshader 2.0 support on top of that, would prolly be a huuuuuuge difference between 7900GTO and FX5700 in games like SmackDown vs Raw 2006, RE4 etc. (hehe I almost feel like buying one just to try it out, who knows I might even do so if I can get one really cheap but are there even any PCI-E versions of any card in this series I wonder, I know there are PCI versions tho but those are even a bit more slower than the AGP version, not that much tho)

Sorry if I hurt your view on the graphics card though.
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In the search for knowledge, sacrifices must be made at some point. I'll survive

The emulator works pretty well for making game wallpapers in my machine
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The emulator works pretty well for making game wallpapers in my machine
heh, I guess so.

I already made a "Wanted" post in buy/sell section in a very popular forum in this country where I'm looking for a PCI FX-serie card.

I do have an old ATI pci 8MB graphics card as backup card if I'd need to flash the gfx card bios on my PCI-E card in case something happens tho but that's just too slow to be of any use in this test.
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Thx!
I did learn more from the review.
My spec is X2 3600+ oc 2.4GHz 7600GT 1G RAm
I ran the op of FFX and did some test :
cpu useage FPS
none AA+n BF 100% 48
2x AA+n BF 100% 44
4x AA+n BF 100% 42
none AA+ BF 97% 47
2x AA+ BF 93% 40
4x AA+ BF 85% 34
I only run the first 1 minutes of FFX.On 1024 x 768.(Maybe have some margin)The fps is not have a much difference. The biggest span is 141% 48fps(none AA + n BF) vs 34(4x AA + BF)It is also said that my cpu is weaker compared to the Graphic Cards.
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So far no1 has offered me any cards, such a shame, I'd really wanna compare such card too.

And I'm not buying a retail card, who would pay 40€ for a FX5200 128MB PCI card!
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I got a 7900 GTO too, man im ready for all ps2 games!!!
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I got a 7900 GTO too, man im ready for all ps2 games!!!
Only if you have a powerful enough CPU.

But it seems minimum requirements gets closer to reality now, but depends what you specify as playable speeds but for all games where dual core mode works, if you want 20 FPS minimum and higher you seem to need a Conroe E6600 + 7900GTO or so. But then some games doesn't require close to that but I'm talking about if you also want demanding games to run fine. Any1 know of an even more demanding game than what I used in this test that also works in dual core mode? WWE SmackDown vs Raw 2006, Resident Evil 4, Tekken 4 are currently the most demanding games I know of that also works pretty fine and runs in dual core mode fine as well.
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Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
Onimusha 3
Rumble Roses
Summer Heat Beach Volleyball
Tales of The Abyss

Are all reasonably taxing, there are more, but this is due to kernel load and other issues. Also there are other taxing games that are simply not stable enough for a reliable benchmark.

Of course now you just need to get yuor hands on the GeForce 8800 GTX
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Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec
Onimusha 3
Rumble Roses
Summer Heat Beach Volleyball
Tales of The Abyss

Are all reasonably taxing, there are more, but this is due to kernel load and other issues. Also there are other taxing games that are simply not stable enough for a reliable benchmark.

Of course now you just need to get yuor hands on the GeForce 8800 GTX
Thanks for those suggestions, perhaps I get my hands on them sometimes, but Tales of the Abyss I have but in the current version 0.9.1 it doesn't go ingame, only to the menu.
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Well my FX 5700 is AGP (even slower...), so it's useless for you (and its the only graphics chip i have). Maybe if Christmas bonus is generous this year, i can buy a PCI-express Mobo AND a decent GPU.
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Greate job , i finally realised what a sucky card my 5200 is ( cheers , and thanks for the hard work !
lol. 3 years ago, 5200 was already the worst of the worst !

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Well my FX 5700 is AGP (even slower...), so it's useless for you (and its the only graphics chip i have). Maybe if Christmas bonus is generous this year, i can buy a PCI-express Mobo AND a decent GPU.
Actually, on the fx series, the agp is enough. pci-express got interesting only starting with the 6 series.

But yeah, anyone seeing "fx" on his card should just throw it in the trash and get an actual card as soon as possible.
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